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This is the right way to go.
1 posted on 09/30/2011 5:41:12 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist
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To: New Jersey Realist

Yea! That’s what I prefer, the flat tax.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 5:49:15 AM PDT by Irenic
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Or a combination thereof....Herman Cain’s 9/9/9 idea is interesting.


3 posted on 09/30/2011 5:50:11 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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...It fixes the economy and doesn't cost a dime.

All the more reason for Obama to hate it.

4 posted on 09/30/2011 5:50:55 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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Flat tax, Fair Tax, 999 ... they all have their merits to me. I'm no economist, so it's impossible for me to predict the outcome of a tax switchover.

What I do know is this: Our current tax system is corrupt, unfair, and extremely destructive to our nation and our society. The current people in Washington, and CPAs across the nation, feed and nurture this true crisis.

Change is imperative.

I know I can't count on the current corrupt politician to make a good determination as to flat, fair, or whatever. The only thing I can do it support total regime change in Washington, and hope for leaders who care about the future of our nation.

6 posted on 09/30/2011 5:55:21 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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Fair(tax) is better than Flat as it's not the governments' business what I earn and even, “dirty money” will be taxed when it is spent. Income (savings, investment) should not be taxed, spending should!
7 posted on 09/30/2011 5:58:46 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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the latest applause line from President Obama that "billionaires should pay the same tax rate as janitors"...

But, do I pay the same tax rate since I'm jewish? Or, would that only be the case if I was a jewish janitor?

8 posted on 09/30/2011 6:01:22 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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While I prefer a flat tax, I never confuse how taxes are collected with how much taxes are collected. We still have a huge overspending problem that needs fixing.


9 posted on 09/30/2011 6:08:32 AM PDT by umgud
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How about we cut government down to its constitutional size and, therefore, cut spending. Conservatives seem to be so dedicated to finding more efficient ways to fund the monstrous leviathan that is destroying us. My favorite is conservatives boasting that a tax cut will bring in more money. As if that’s a good thing. How about a tax cut that will bring in less money and starve the beast?


10 posted on 09/30/2011 6:08:54 AM PDT by all the best
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My husband and I agree. That flat tax is the way to go.


12 posted on 09/30/2011 6:15:39 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Flat is fair except that the tax should not be on income but consumption instead!

http://www.fairtax.org


17 posted on 09/30/2011 6:30:43 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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I prefer the fair tax.

With the fair tax, you snag people like drug dealers, prostitutes, and people who otherwise wouldn’t pay taxes.

You also reward savers, as money that’s saved and/or invested isn’t taxed unless you spend it.

Let’s say that i earn and want to invest $20,000 with the flat tax. If the tax is 10%, then I can only invest $18,000.

With the Fair tax, I can invest all $20,000.

I get to make money (interest/dividends) off that $2,000 for my retirement. When I spend it, I may spend part of it on things like my car insurance, phone bill, electric bill... things that aren’t taxed at all with the fair tax.


21 posted on 09/30/2011 6:42:31 AM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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Consumption tax is a much better model than any sort of income tax. The notion that the government is entitled to some portion of my inocme is simply wrong.


22 posted on 09/30/2011 6:46:21 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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“This is the right way to go.”

No, it’s not. The USA has had five (5) flat INCOME taxes since 1861 and each time it grows back into a mess. Check the history for yourself.

The INCOME tax is like a cancer. You can make it ‘flat’ and it will spread and metastasize. Each new session of Congress thinks to tinker with the INCOME tax code and pats themselves on the back for fixing the tax problem when in actuality they are butcher like amateur surgeons who cut out a tumor leaving thousands of cancer cells behind to kill the patient later.

Pass a flat tax now and come back in 10 years to see the middle class is once again in pain from having their deductions cut, from having their tax rates go up, from the rich and wealthy finding clever ways to get their income classified as nontaxable or defined not as ‘income’.

Since 1913 there have been five major tax reforms, each reform making the tax code simpler and ‘flatter’, only to see such reforms undone by tax code amendments within 10 years or less.

Since the last major tax reform in 1986, there have been more than 20,000 amendments to the tax code and a quadrupling of tax lobbyists inside the Beltway.

The real lasting tax reform that is in line with the Founder’s original intent is here:

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq

Study Study Study and ask questions.


24 posted on 09/30/2011 6:53:47 AM PDT by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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Agreed. Make the tax the bluntest instrument possible: a simple rate structure spread over a very wide base with very limited exemptions. Lock that in via Amendment so future politicians can’t change the game easily.


26 posted on 09/30/2011 7:10:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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Flat would be an improvement, but it preserves the IRS, which is a costly, intrusive and unconstitutional horror.

The beauties of the Fair tax include its simplicity and its natural tendency to encourage saving and investment. But the biggest beauties in the FairTax legislation as Linder crafted it was the elimination of the 16th Amendment (which was adopted under sketchy circumstances at best) and the axing of the IRS in its entirety.

I wish the Fair Tax had more support.


27 posted on 09/30/2011 7:27:51 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jewish-Janitors-for-Herman-Cain/265384623496473


31 posted on 09/30/2011 8:27:00 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny (Cain 2012)
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Every FREEDOM loving American should both do an on line search on the name Beardsley Ruml and find out for yourselves who he was. Then read the article at the link below where he explains what taxes are REALLY for in today’s America.

http://hiwaay.net/~becraft/RUMLTAXES.html


32 posted on 09/30/2011 8:27:25 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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Obama’s flat tax... everyone sends in 70% of gross income...


33 posted on 09/30/2011 8:56:15 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Anything that will greatly simplify the tax code I am for.
Anything that will simplify and shrink government I am for.
Anything that makes it impossible for some hell bent marxist radical commie to manipulate and fundementally change our system against the people’s will I am for.
Anything that restores our Constitutional Republic to its former glory I am for.
Anything that restores basic common sense and values I am for.
GO TEAM!


38 posted on 09/30/2011 10:20:16 AM PDT by Leep
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our current system started out as a flat tax...

the fair tax is the way to go.

a tax on income is evil and controlled by malcontents.

consumption gets the money out of politics.

teeman


47 posted on 09/30/2011 1:05:23 PM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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