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Home Secretary Theresa May wants Human Rights Act axed
BBC News ^ | 10/02/2011 | BBC News

Posted on 10/02/2011 3:25:08 AM PDT by EnglishCon

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This is a huge change for the UK, and possibly a move towards a more constitutionally based government. Bear in mind that our constitution is unwritten - just precedent from the last thousand years or so.
1 posted on 10/02/2011 3:25:14 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

English Bill of Rights???

Might start out with a 2nd Amendment so your poor citizens (oops, subjects, blokes, whatever...) can defend hearth and home from criminal miscreatants.

You might also put in the preamble, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit if good dental care.

heehaw


2 posted on 10/02/2011 3:42:14 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: EnglishCon

English Bill of Rights???

Might start out with a 2nd Amendment so your poor citizens (oops, subjects, blokes, whatever...) can defend hearth and home from criminal miscreatants.

You might also put in the preamble, Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of good dental care.

heehaw


3 posted on 10/02/2011 3:42:37 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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:P

You forget, you got the life and liberty bit from us. The good dental care - well, that’ll take some serious time.

What everyone forgets is, up until Hungerford and Dunblaine, we had the right to own arms. Actually, we still do, just incredibly heavily licensed and regulated. Those I would like to see reduced - not swept away, we are a different country with different problems, and one size does not fit all - but made more reasonable.
I hunt, both rifle and crossbow. Own my own .303 Enfield, which lives in the gun club most of the time and I am not allowed to have it or ammo for it at home at all. My crossbow, sure, that hangs by the door, despite it being just as deadly and a heck of a lot quieter.

It is a strange system.


4 posted on 10/02/2011 4:03:29 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

WOW.
England lost the American Revolution
The One Euro Revolution
And is in the process of losing the Muslim Take Over Revolution.


5 posted on 10/02/2011 4:40:35 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: wetgundog

England and Scotland had Bill of Rights 100 years before you.

What do you think yours is based on?.


6 posted on 10/02/2011 4:55:03 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman; wetgundog

The American Bill of Rights is based on what they didn’t have in England.


7 posted on 10/02/2011 4:58:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EnglishCon

MY Enfield lives in MY safe.
Alongside its brother, and German cousins.
Feed, too.


8 posted on 10/02/2011 5:20:05 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: driftdiver

The American Bill of Rights is based on what they DID have in England but didn’t have in the colonies.

Remember Jefferson’s words; “We might have been a great and free people together...”


9 posted on 10/02/2011 5:57:46 AM PDT by Mitch86
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To: EnglishCon

“...up until Hungerford and Dunblaine, we had the right to own arms.”

I have to disagree with your statement. If your government took away your right to bear arms it wasn’t a right to begin with, only permission from the government.


10 posted on 10/02/2011 6:03:08 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: EnglishCon

This sounds like a great development across the pond for our conservative British friends. We see so much misery happening in England and I’ve lost track of what’s going on with all of their politics, being that we’ve got plenty of miserable politics that we’re experiencing. I had kind of lost hope for Europe. It seems that the true British may be getting back into the game. I hope they can turn it around...cheers to our British FRiends...


11 posted on 10/02/2011 6:12:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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The English Bill of Rights (1688) guaranteed the right of the citizens to bear arms (in order to protect themselves against the standing army of the king).

The 13 colonies copied that and most added it to their colonial laws immediately.


12 posted on 10/02/2011 6:24:47 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: the scotsman

What does it matter when you had it if you no longer have it in an operative form?


13 posted on 10/02/2011 6:37:22 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Mitch86

It was based on lessons learned, good and bad. England certainly did not have all of the rights enumerated in the BoR, Constitution, or concepts in the DOI.


14 posted on 10/02/2011 6:50:03 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: the scotsman
Yeah, but we still have ours.

Cheers!

15 posted on 10/02/2011 6:58:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: EnglishCon

I would like to thank the UK for setting the fine
example that our dear leader Obama likes to point to while
he is in the process of making a total jackass out of
himself. I think that they should not change a thing so
that the rest of the world will have something to point
to as an example of what not to do.


16 posted on 10/02/2011 7:13:24 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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...we are a different country with different problems, and one size does not fit all...

The operative concept is human beings, not countries. And in the case of human beings and self-defense rights, one size does indeed fit all.

17 posted on 10/02/2011 7:33:10 AM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: the scotsman

“England and Scotland had Bill of Rights 100 years before you.”
And you lost it.

“What do you think yours is based on?.”
Common sense.

England and Scotland bow to royalty.
Americans do not.
England and Scotland have rights granted by Queens and
sometimes a King.
Americas rights are granted by god.
The problem we have is our own version of Bonnie Prince Charlie is sitting in the white-house pointing at western
Europe as a fine example.


18 posted on 10/02/2011 7:35:59 AM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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What does it matter when you had it if you no longer have it in an operative form?

Encumbered or not, the right remains. All the more reason to strip it of the infringements.

Even a ban by fiat of an unalienable right does not take the right away, it just makes the practice thereof more difficult.

19 posted on 10/02/2011 6:02:17 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

In the UK the rights do not remain. They disappeared long ago.


20 posted on 10/02/2011 6:14:35 PM PDT by vladimir998
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