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The Secret Memo That Explains Why Obama Can Kill Americans
The Atlantic ^ | 10/03/2011 | Conor Friedersdorf

Posted on 10/03/2011 8:02:55 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

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To: ltc8k6

What about collateral damage? I’m sure some innocent people have been killed by these drone strikes. Guess we don’t care about them anymore.


21 posted on 10/03/2011 8:41:15 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Little Ray

Okay, but we still have jihadis at GITMO, being treated considerably differently...


22 posted on 10/03/2011 8:42:35 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: sickoflibs; All

I told anyone who would listen that the 2006 Congressional Elections were going to be the most important elections of our lifetime.

If the media could convince the sheeple that 4.5% unemployment, a 14,000 DOW, and a job for anyone that wanted on was the “WORST ECONOMY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION!”, as Pelosi and the Dems said, this nation was truly screwed.

They did, and look what happened in 2008.

America.. It was good run, while it lasted.


23 posted on 10/03/2011 8:44:29 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: edcoil
Does not matter.

The law passed by Congress in Sep 2001 provided the President(s) all the authorization he would ever need to kill anyone, U.S. citizen or not, stupid enough to call themselves “Al Queda”.

In the Civil War the U.S. Army killed U.S. citizens who had taken up arms against the USA en mass. I do not hear anyone arguing that these were “assassinations” or “illegal”, or that any member of the Confederacy lost their citizenship.

24 posted on 10/03/2011 8:46:18 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: ltc8k6

Well, it WOULD be nice if somebody was mixing up concrete overshoes for them. Then we could say “We let them go” while not mentioning that it was in the middle of the Atlantic...


25 posted on 10/03/2011 8:46:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: reefdiver
Nothing on this from hollywood liberals, e.j. dopey, michael moron, the view chicks, roseanne.

I'm sure Code Pink with the Sheehan woman have issued statements, right?

I'm also sure that the ACLU is suing the administration, right?

Changing the subject, good kill Zoomies.

5.56mm

26 posted on 10/03/2011 8:49:15 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: sickoflibs
Even if we called them hypocrites it wouldn't matter.

Dems have the weight of the 'press' behind them - ready to yuck it up and spread the word. It's different when we call them hypocrites - the press isn't with us - and our message doesn't go anywhere.

Anyone who doesn't hate liberal elites isn't paying attention.

27 posted on 10/03/2011 8:54:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Bibi would go toe to toe with the devil if it was the only way to save his beloved Israel.)
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To: GOPJ
RE :"Even if we called them hypocrites it wouldn't matter. Dems have the weight of the 'press' behind them - ready to yuck it up and spread the word. It's different when we call them hypocrites - the press isn't with us - and our message doesn't go anywhere."

Not only do Dems call Republicans hypocrites, but they call Republicans hypocrites in response to them (Dems) being caught for being obvious hypocrites.

Example : If you call them out for this (killing) they will call Republicans hypocrites for supporting Bush water boarding and wiretapping while (Republicans) complaining about Obama doing this this(the killing). They are self appointed hypocrite judges.

Back to my point, Republicans need to fight back. The MSM is not as predictable as you might think listening to Rush.

28 posted on 10/03/2011 9:15:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Let me get this straight. We have to close down Gitmo which simply detains foreign terrorists b/c it somehow violates their rights. And we must allow or furnish them with legal counsel even though they were detained on the battlefield. But, we can kill an American terrorist without any due process whatsoever. How is such an act Constitutionally justified? It’s not morally or legally consistent.


29 posted on 10/03/2011 9:22:55 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: GladesGuru; sickoflibs
no doubt that the 'precedent' of the resident can and will be used against us in the future...

but really, weve all known for a looooong time that the POTUS or any other uber ranking politician can and does participate in thinning the herd whenever it wants...see waco and ruby ridge for a couple examples of this that were fortunate enuff to make natl nooooze...

we're all just a reichstag from the coupling of cattle cars...'for the children' of course...

30 posted on 10/03/2011 9:25:12 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs

The Left is pretty upset than an enemy of America was killed:

ACLU Condemns Killing Of Anwar Al-Awlaki…

weaselzippers.us/2011/09/30/aclu-condemns-killing-of-anwar-al-awlaki

Code Pink has nothing specific that I can find, but they have condemned drone strikes for a long time. The left is always mad when American enemies are killed. I am happy Al-Awlaki is gone.


31 posted on 10/03/2011 9:25:43 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I wouldn’t shed a tear over this guy that they just took down, US citizen or not.


32 posted on 10/03/2011 9:26:51 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”we're all just a reichstag from the coupling of cattle cars...’for the children’ of course

LOL,

33 posted on 10/03/2011 9:31:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Gilbo_3
RE :"Code Pink has nothing specific that I can find, but they have condemned drone strikes for a long time. The left is always mad when American enemies are killed. I am happy Al-Awlaki is gone."

Please dont start telling me '..but Obama kept you safe' because I am at risk of chucking my cookies.

34 posted on 10/03/2011 9:34:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
While I believe that the death of this man is justified, I am appalled that our government would kill a citizen without a trial when the citizen was not physically harming any citizen. I am also shocked that so many here are not concerned with the opportunities for future killings. I know that the man was a supporter of al-Qaeda, I do not believe that there is any information that has him personally attacking the US or our troops. If there is info out there then this would be justified.

If this goes unchallenged then what is to stop the government from doing this to anyone whom they deem as a problem. With the people in control of the government at this time I worry that the Tea Party, Free Republic, middle age white males or I could all be next on the list.

35 posted on 10/03/2011 9:35:43 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

What is sad, truly sad, is that conservatives who think that they are Constitutionalists are totally down with the idea that the President can kill an American citizen at will.

In the instant case the dead American seems to have been a terrorist, a really bad actor. However, the President refuses to deliver the evidence of his allegations, to permit representation of his target before any judicial authority, to allow a hearing of his case in any forum, or even to provide an explanation of his constitutional authority to kill American citizens. This makes the President the functional equivalent of a king with supreme powers as long as he alleges that the target for killing is a terrorist.

What about the President’s next target? Remember that the President’s allies refer to Tea Party members as terrorists and, like jihadis, they tend to be armed. Many of the Tea Party terrorists also adhere to a fundamentalist religious faith and these bitter clingers oppose Obama’s vision for fundamental transformation of America. Conservatives should be interested in learning Obama’s legal rationale for killing American citizens, and ought not to assume that they know it if it is intentionally kept secret.


36 posted on 10/03/2011 9:35:47 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: sickoflibs

The CIA kept you safe. Obama didn’t do crap.


37 posted on 10/03/2011 9:38:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Ratman83

There is public knowledge of him helping two of the 911 pilots, the fort hood shooter, the underware bomber and more, he’s on youtube preaching and teaching that America must be destroyed. The truth is you engage in such activities you’re going to wind up dead, courtesy of the US Military, which is exactly what happened here. He chose to follow a path that leads to death, and it did.


38 posted on 10/03/2011 9:39:17 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Skepolitic

I guarantee you that if Bush did this you wouldn’t be so “hot” on this issue, let’s all be intellectually honest here.


39 posted on 10/03/2011 9:40:34 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Yes he talked, yes he provide religious preaching. I have not seen anything the claims physical attacks. We do allow the government to kill without an actual threat, otherwise we could be next.


40 posted on 10/03/2011 9:48:55 AM PDT by Ratman83
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