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Federal Employment Grows Despite Downturn
Mercatus.org ^ | 10/4/11 | Veronique de Rugy

Posted on 10/04/2011 9:12:14 AM PDT by Nachum

In the midst of the current economic downturn, there is one group that seems to be prospering: public employees. While the private sector is struggling to grow and create new jobs, federal government jobs are doing quite well.

This week’s chart by Mercatus Center Scholar Veronique de Rugy shows the growing number of federal government employees. Using the latest data for annual government employment from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the chart shows that relentless growth in public sector employment largely overshadows private sector employment.

In 2010, there were 22,482,000 government employees. That’s an increase of 1,692,000 employees since 2000. During the examined time period, public employment has grown at an average rate of 0.8% each year—in contrast to the -0.3% average annual rate of private employment decline. From 2000 to 2010, the plummeting employment has been concentrated in the private sector. A total of 3,658,000 private sector jobs have been lost. All the while, public employment continues to increase.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; downturn; economy; employment; federal; fedgov; fedzilla; grows; obama
From 2010, the private sector lost 3.6 million jobs while the govt added 1.7 million
1 posted on 10/04/2011 9:12:22 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 10/04/2011 9:13:11 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

the always-growing government parasite.


3 posted on 10/04/2011 9:14:03 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Nachum

Downturn because government continues to grow.


4 posted on 10/04/2011 9:14:51 AM PDT by all the best
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To: all the best

Exactly


5 posted on 10/04/2011 9:24:13 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Nachum

6 posted on 10/04/2011 9:25:29 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Nachum
Meanwhile agents of the government are trying to whip up popular hatred against elements of the private sector.

One day enough people will get it.

7 posted on 10/04/2011 9:35:56 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Nachum
From 2010, the private sector lost 3.6 million jobs while the govt added 1.7 million

How many of those that lost their jobs in the private sector took jobs in the government?

8 posted on 10/04/2011 9:39:25 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Nachum

A few years ago, there were FR discussions about how the fed govt was going to have to start hiring people because so many were reaching retirement age. I believe that is a big part of this growth.


9 posted on 10/04/2011 9:44:38 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Nachum

This headline is totally false. There has been no increase in federal employment. The article also has a false graph. Federal employment is NOT 23 million. I guess people will believe anything that verifies their beliefs and care nothing for the truth.


10 posted on 10/04/2011 9:47:58 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

Got some hard proof of your assessments?


11 posted on 10/04/2011 9:58:45 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: upchuck

Federal employment has been around 3 million for a LONG time.

The figures listed are for ALL government employment not just federal.


12 posted on 10/04/2011 10:01:24 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: stuartcr
"start hiring people because so many were reaching retirement age. I believe that is a big part of this growth"

If it were replacing the aging workforce, then the number of employees should remain un-changed.

The FACT is that the Unions have infiltrated the public employee arena, and hiring more friends and laundering MORE Dues to the Progressive Cause is why the government employment is rising. The government produces nothing, spends money of people who haven't even been born yet, and pays themselves exhorbitant wages and benefits.

A 50% across-the-board reduction in government would not affect the Constitutional duties that are required to be performed, at all. The un-Constitutional duties, regulations, oversight, and handouts are the reason we are in the toilet with the Economy.

13 posted on 10/04/2011 10:07:06 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1

I think it’s more a matter of hiring new, younger personnel and grooming them, while the ones they are going to replace are still there.


14 posted on 10/04/2011 10:14:47 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Nachum
While I can find numbers that support their general premise - that government jobs have grown over the last 10 years - I can't find support for their actual figures*. The numbers look like they might be close if you combine all federal, all state, and all local government jobs but I haven't taken the time to tally everything to be certain.

*The article lists the source as the Bureau of Labor Statistics but according to that website, federal figures for 2010 aren't available there.

I did track down some figures on another government site though. According to the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, the federal government added a total of 313,000 jobs** from 2000 to 2010. (237,000 of those just since Obama took office.) Of that 313,000, 176,000 are "uniformed military" and 137,000 are "executive branch civilians". (Of the 237,000, over a third were ebc positions - 84,000 - and 152,000 were uniformed military.)

**According to the site, figures do include "full-time permanent, temporary, part-time, and intermittent employees", "Postal Service","various disadvantaged youth and worker-trainee programs" and do not include census workers.

15 posted on 10/04/2011 10:41:13 AM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: Reese Hamm

Actual figures are hard to find on employment data. I do follow the Mercatus Center and so this was an interesting piece of writing, I thought.

No, the figures in the article do not seem to account for a great deal of those employed by federal agencies, but just the idea that this chart still shows massive employment in the face of what is a modern depression is mind boggling. The Federal government needs to take a hair cut. Now.


16 posted on 10/04/2011 10:51:59 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: stuartcr
"I think it’s more a matter of hiring new, younger personnel and grooming them, while the ones they are going to replace are still there"

That would be true in a business that actually produces something, but when jobs consist of producing nothing, it doesn't take a lot of training.

OTH, if that were the case, over time, government would NOT have grown to the extent it has, since the "retiring" workers (over time) would net out against the TOTAL number of employed there. For the past 20 years, government has grown and grown, and no workforce attrition is apparent at all.

17 posted on 10/04/2011 11:56:26 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: arrogantsob

I’ll ask again, got some hard proof of your assessments?

Links, graphs, cave paintings?


18 posted on 10/04/2011 4:06:16 PM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Nachum

We’re so screwed.

When will this House of Cards finally fall? As a past ‘taxpayer-supported government worker’ (Military) I’m sort of looking forward to the bloodbath...but I fear it won’t come for many, many, many more years.

What happens when the very last private sector job is GONE...aside from that person turning out the lights and locking the door?


19 posted on 10/04/2011 4:31:34 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
We’re so screwed.

I've been saying that a lot lately :(

20 posted on 10/04/2011 5:05:24 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

What better way to buy votes....


21 posted on 10/04/2011 5:07:11 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: Nachum

I’m SO depressed! And I’m not easily depressed - or defeated - nor am I a defeatist!

I’m just SO unhappy with the current Pres__ent, and equally as depressed over what we in the GOP have to offer as candidates!

I’m more of a ‘Republitarian’ (which is a Libertarian without all the dope smoking, LOL!) and Ron Paul doesn’t appeal to me in the least...

Oh, H3ll! I was HOPING it wasn’t going to come to this, but I think it’s time for ME to run for President, LOL!


22 posted on 10/04/2011 5:51:55 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Nachum

23 posted on 10/04/2011 5:53:12 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Diana,

you have my vote :)


24 posted on 10/04/2011 5:57:15 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

You, my FRiend will be spared under my Benevolent Dictatorship. Your death will be quick and painless.

However...Did you want a Cabinet Position? Pick one; it’s yours...even if it doesn’t exist right now! I Am Queen! I can appoint whoever I want to whatever I want at taxpayer expense! No elections or vetting necessary!

*SMIRK*

(You KNOW this is exactly how Hillary! envisions things will be when she’s the first Pasty White Beotch President, LOL!)

Oh, she’s coming. Count on it. Gird your loins...


25 posted on 10/04/2011 6:17:20 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: traditional1

Are you saying that govt employees that work in the DoD, don’t produce anything and don’t require training? How do you think things get done in the military, like installing communications systems, defense systems, shipboard installations? You think contractors just walk up to aircraft carriers and start putting in new systems? You think none of that requires training?


26 posted on 10/04/2011 7:19:01 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Nachum
"Are you saying that govt employees that work in the DoD, don’t produce anything and don’t require training?"

ALL of that could be out-sourced to the private sector, and, the pay and benefits costs would be reduced dramatically.

Working for the gubmint is a way to avoid competitive jobs in the private sector.Taxpayers are tired of funding over-staffed, under-worked, over-paid government employment. We cant' afford it at all.

27 posted on 10/05/2011 12:13:58 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Nachum

Government begets government.

They can’t wait, salivating, for somebody else to pay for ALL of this by, Vampire-Care.


28 posted on 10/05/2011 12:37:12 AM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: upchuck

I don’t link. And you are free to believe any lie you wish. Should you truly care about the truth there are any number of sources which can verify what I have said. The annual “Economic Report of the President” shows federal employment figures. They aren’t hidden.


29 posted on 10/11/2011 9:39:15 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Nachum

That’s why obozo is insisting on stimulus jr - gotta keep those govt union jobs funded.


30 posted on 10/11/2011 9:42:21 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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