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1 posted on 10/05/2011 4:18:23 AM PDT by 1010RD
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To: 1010RD

yes, women keep telling me that I am top of the evolutionary scale.


2 posted on 10/05/2011 4:22:18 AM PDT by Perdogg (I would vote for Pawnstar Chumlee, before I would vote for 0bama)
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Remember too, that evolution is not always onward and upward. Because of government subsidies to broken familes and triple-generation unemployables, we are now experienceing a reverse evolution, or devolution, in the mind of at least one Nobel Prize winner. This is because the lower classes are breeding at a faster rate than the more educated and successful classes.


3 posted on 10/05/2011 4:23:47 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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Oh yeah?

4 posted on 10/05/2011 4:24:01 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Democrats: the Party of NO!)
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I only read the title.

But I know the story is BS.

Look who is in the White House.

And as long as people continue to favor various forms of slavery (all collectivist governments and those that use central management), humans are not evolving.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 4:38:11 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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The researchers found a genetic push toward younger age at first reproduction and larger families ...

The researcher found earlier childbearing and larger families in an isolated population and stipulated a "genetic push."

Now if they identified a gene, and then found the same one in ghetto black populations with the same childbearing patterns, that would be scientifically interesting.

14 posted on 10/05/2011 4:43:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Skip the election and let Thomas Sowell choose the next President.)
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Here’s a handy test to determine if someone is evolved/evolving: ask them if they like karaoke.


15 posted on 10/05/2011 4:46:38 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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16 posted on 10/05/2011 4:48:00 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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"I used to be a newt but I got better evolved." *ping*
17 posted on 10/05/2011 4:55:53 AM PDT by Salamander (Alice Cooper hit me with a stick.)
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Who says that’s evolution? More like changes in social behavior.


19 posted on 10/05/2011 4:57:37 AM PDT by Diggity
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The conclusion is very probably correct, but the study in no way proves it.

First, the numbers are too small. They are not large enough to eliminate the possibility of random genetic drift.

Second, the study does not seem to look at any genetic change at all. So where is the evolution?

The change in time of first birth is well within the normal human range, and is very moderate. The change in age at first birth could easily be explained by a very slight cultural change. If stuck on an island, where choices are limited, what is to stop people from getting married earlier, and starting families? Presumably everyone has a job lined up, so there is no wandering around deciding on a career, or pioneering in a new region.


20 posted on 10/05/2011 4:58:26 AM PDT by docbnj
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There is nothing to distinguish true evolution from societal pressures here.

If they could demonstrate something physical, like earlier puberty while controlling for nutrition status, that would be a little more convincing.

From what I’ve read about pioneer America, the age at first childbirth was lower than it is now.

One last critique, and that is that these researchers were looking at an island; conclusions made about an isolated population cannot be extrapolated to the entire population. They are only pertinent to the isolated population.

Oh, and I do not question that humans are continuing to evolve, nor that we are shaping our evolution. Every time someone has a kid through medical interventions (e.g. “test tube baby” or fertility treatments), they are contributing to decreasing the fitness of the human race. Eventually, we could reach a point where medical intervention for reproduction becomes the norm rather than the exception. There are many other examples about how we are preserving traits not conducive to survival, but to point them out would make me seem heartless.


21 posted on 10/05/2011 5:03:00 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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The researchers analyzed the data from women who married between 1799 and 1940, comparing their family relationships, any social, cultural or economic differences, and the age at which they had their first child. Researchers found that over 140 years, the age at first reproduction dropped from 26 to 22.

This is news??? There are dozens of studies showing the same pattern of reduced ages to puberty and marriage, etc. in the last few centuries. Dr. Jack Cuozzo would hardly be surprised, he had extensive discussion of them in his creationist book Buried Alive.

Note that this is the opposite of Darwinian expectations. Evolutionists believe we evolved from apes with faster generation times, not slower. It is more consistent with the idea of degeneration from past times when humans lived much longer.

But more likely these kinds of changes have almost nothing to do with genetics at all. Simple dietary (adequate nutrition = no delay of maturation) and cultural changes suffice to explain modest shifts like this.

28 posted on 10/05/2011 5:18:15 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Proud to be a bitter, clinging barbarian hobbit!)
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34 posted on 10/05/2011 5:28:19 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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The state of modern science.

sad isnt it ??? Im not that old, but was taught that science involved experimentation to disprove your theory...

this new science seems to simply involve feelings and cherry picking unrelated information...

41 posted on 10/05/2011 5:41:17 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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Wisdom teeth are leaving us. My mother only had two, and I had none. Yes, I suppose that does mean that I am highly evolved. Yet without wisdom.


43 posted on 10/05/2011 5:46:25 AM PDT by Yaelle
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These guys have obviously never visited Sand Mountain, Georgia.....


45 posted on 10/05/2011 5:49:49 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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Future generations will be born with square eyes, huge thumbs, wide butts, and tiny legs.


47 posted on 10/05/2011 5:54:11 AM PDT by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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Every man, woman and mutant on this planet shall know the truth about this
49 posted on 10/05/2011 5:56:32 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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“it is often claimed that modern humans have stopped evolving because cultural and technological advancements have annihilated natural selection”

What idiot wrote this? Darwin way back when already recognized a form of selection that wasn’t strictly “natural.” That is, sexual selection. You may have heard about it seconds after your teacher told you about natural selection. If sexual selection can control evolution, so can cultural selection, for lack of a better term.

Darwin, again, long ago recognized such, so as to explain why human populations don’t unavoidably push up against the food supply in the absense of plague, famine, and war, as he theorized all species should. The answer was, more or less, medicine, farming, contraception, and so forth. In short, civilization.

Oh well, much funner and more profitable to shock readers with things everyone already knows.


59 posted on 10/05/2011 6:15:11 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Oh there’s no doubt about it. And it’s not all positive. From 1945 to 2008 the average IQ of the U.S. population decreased from 100 to 70 or maybe less.


66 posted on 10/05/2011 6:25:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast (America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare: Herman Cain!)
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