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To: edge919

You *do* realize that in neither of these two cases were the CHILDREN issued a deportation order?

In both cases, the US decided to deport the father, and the father appealed on the grounds that his deportation would harm his children. Not because the children were being legally deported themselves, but because they would naturally follow their father. This is roughly the same sort of appeal that Lolo Soetoro made.

Good work, though, on sharing these two cases that explicitly state that the U.S.-born children of foreigners are “natural born citizens.” Particularly Diaz-Salazar, since it’s a federal Court of Appeals decision.


19 posted on 10/07/2011 1:45:40 PM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: Vickery2010

How about Vickery2010? Is he Pro-life?


21 posted on 10/07/2011 1:47:11 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Vickery2010
Good work, though, on sharing these two cases that explicitly state that the U.S.-born children of foreigners are “natural born citizens.” Particularly Diaz-Salazar, since it’s a federal Court of Appeals decision.

It IS a good job! Discovering that it was the decision of a Carter appointee PROVES it cannot be correct! Ergo, the opposite is assured to be true.

23 posted on 10/07/2011 1:50:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Vickery2010
You *do* realize that in neither of these two cases were the CHILDREN issued a deportation order?

The second case wasn't about deportation but the denial of a requested extension ... and no one said anyone was issued an order to be deported. I said the law wasn't going to protect the self-identified "natural-born citizens" from deportation by showing that a) there would be no hardship incurred (notice there's no appeal to preserving the sanctity of the children's citizenship rights) and b) the second court cited a policy of basically ignoring attempts to exploit marriages and children for immigration purposes. Again, there's nothing here to encourage these children to stay in the United States. Such policies would have resulted in Obama and his mama being sent packing back to Kenya with his papa had his mother been a faithful wife to her alleged husband.

Good work, though, on sharing these two cases that explicitly state that the U.S.-born children of foreigners are “natural born citizens.” Particularly Diaz-Salazar, since it’s a federal Court of Appeals decision.

The claim of being "natural-born citizens" isn't supported by any legal reference of justification. Like I explained the courts simply accepted these claims at face value. And I've already point out TWICE that the court expressed an expectation that Diaz-Salazar's children would move to Mexico with their father. IOW, this is a poor justification for believing that being an anchor makes someone a real natural-born citizen. It doesn't.

Lolo Soetoro tried to claim similar hardships to get his two-year requirement waived so he could get his student visa extended. His request was denied and SAD and Barry Soetoro ended up moving to Indonesia. As a bastard child, Obama wouldn't be personally deported, but a real natural-born citizen would never be in this situation to begin with.

44 posted on 10/07/2011 3:23:22 PM PDT by edge919
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