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Perry Supporter Calls Mormonism a ďCultĒ
Time ^ | October 7, 2011 | Michael Crowley

Posted on 10/07/2011 1:59:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

Rick Perry just gave a well received speech Here at the annual Values Voters summit in Washington, D.C.–though not flawless, the Texas governor is a lot sharper when he’s in control, not under fire in a debate setting. But the Texas pastor who introduced Perry has unexpectedly opened the door to a sensitive issue barely discussed in this primary so far: Mitt Romney’s faith.

....whether he had in fact been referring to Romney and Mormonism, Jeffers said he had. “Mormonism is a cult,” he said cheerfully, before rephrasing his onstage statement in a more explicit way: The choice, he said, is between a born again Christian and “a good moral person who is part of a cult.”

....A Perry campaign spokesman responded to a request for a comment by merely saying, “The Governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult.”

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antimormonfatwa; antimormonjihad; cultofjoesmith; evangelical; hemanmormonhaters; itisacult; mormonism; perry; religiousintolerance; romney; zealotry
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Oh gee...Jeffers has stolen a march on the media by playing the mormon card in the primary campaign instead of waiting until Romney had been forced on conservatives and could have mormonism's racist past exposed during the general.

Additionally, Romney has been playing his usual dirty tricks and probably had something in mind as far as playing the card himself.

Cain's ascendancy must be giving Mitt night sweats!

1 posted on 10/07/2011 1:59:07 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...

Ping


2 posted on 10/07/2011 2:03:06 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, America’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39

Nothing like taking losing with grace and class/s


3 posted on 10/07/2011 2:03:42 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Tweeters are salivating at having another stone to throw at Perry.


4 posted on 10/07/2011 2:05:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, America’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39

Perry Supporter Calls Mormonism a “Cult”

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My God! First the Perry-noiacs made a mountain over a mole hill with N-head. Now this?

Desperation. I love to see fear in the eyes of babid lunatics.


5 posted on 10/07/2011 2:05:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Inside most preachers is a politician fighting to get out.


6 posted on 10/07/2011 2:05:05 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Oh noes! “one lone” Perry supporter said something controversial!


7 posted on 10/07/2011 2:06:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“babid” lunatics?

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Geesh.

try rabid.


8 posted on 10/07/2011 2:06:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: greyfoxx39

The Rev. Hagee, if he was there, may be happy that he is not Catholic.


9 posted on 10/07/2011 2:08:21 PM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: greyfoxx39

​First Baptist Dallas's Robert Jeffress
does seem to display Christian values.

10 posted on 10/07/2011 2:08:47 PM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I liked "babid". ☺
11 posted on 10/07/2011 2:09:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: greyfoxx39
Nothing wrong about that remark.

Mormonism is a cult!

12 posted on 10/07/2011 2:13:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: greyfoxx39
You call Mormonism a cult too, and so does this Pastor. Both of you use public settings to do so. His on the Values Voters Summit on stage in front of thousands. You do it here in front of thousands.

So what's the difference?

But it was heartening to hear that Gov. Perry acknowledges he does not think Mormonism is a cult. I bet he doesn't have that Pastor introduce him again.

13 posted on 10/07/2011 2:13:56 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: greyfoxx39
This is so stupid. If it gets to the point where a candidate has to be responsibile for their supporters and what they say our country is done, finished.

That is really reaching. I doubt if every person that supported Palin is a perfect person.

14 posted on 10/07/2011 2:14:48 PM PDT by Katarina (God bless ElRushbo! Prayers for our troops! I stand with Israel.)
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To: mylife
Naturally - it's already in Urban Dictionary.
 
 


15 posted on 10/07/2011 2:15:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: greyfoxx39
Cain's ascendancy must be giving Mitt PERRY night sweats!

Every thing about the Perry campaign stinks of racism.

Cain is a born again Baptist.


16 posted on 10/07/2011 2:16:38 PM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: greyfoxx39

The world is topsy-turvy. Since when is calling an organization a cult worse than actually belonging to one?


17 posted on 10/07/2011 2:16:50 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: greyfoxx39

conservatives and could have mormonism’s racist past exposed during the general.

Conservative/ born again Christian folowers of Jesus Christ consider Mormonism a cult - likewise, Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Advantists and others who do not claim Christ as Savior and part of the Trinity. There is only one way to God and salvation and that is through Jesus Christ. That’s what we believe and why we consider them cults. The book Kingdom of the Cults describes these cults and explains better than I.


18 posted on 10/07/2011 2:17:20 PM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Well this little development can only help....Cain.


19 posted on 10/07/2011 2:18:45 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: Reagan Man

Although no one asked Perry, it would be helpful for the voter if he would also give his opinion on the nature of Islam.

I don’t think he will do that unless forced to.


20 posted on 10/07/2011 2:20:32 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: greyfoxx39

And this is Perry’s fault because ... why?


21 posted on 10/07/2011 2:22:50 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: mylife
Black said that Perry did not choose Jeffress, a Texas-based megachurch leader, to introduce him.

"The conference picked someone to introduce the governor, not us," he said.

Politico

22 posted on 10/07/2011 2:24:33 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, America’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39

23 posted on 10/07/2011 2:25:26 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: All

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons


24 posted on 10/07/2011 2:26:13 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: BuckeyeTexan
And this is Perry’s fault because ... why?

Because Perry is the media's current favorite pinata?

My nightmare Romney/Cain 2012.

25 posted on 10/07/2011 2:28:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, America’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39

Pastor Jeffress was the leader of the First Baptist Church of Wichita Falls for many years and while I don’t know him personally, I do know his “style” very well, and he is not afraid to tell things as they are.

He made headlines a while back when he said “Americas’ days are numbered” and “..we will not save America”. Now he makes new headlines with his take on Mormonism.

That’s how he sees things, as he believes God says in his Word. I believe he is right on both topics.


26 posted on 10/07/2011 2:29:30 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: ROTB

I guess they are occusing everyone at The Value Voters Summit of being bigots for having such a man on their stage.


27 posted on 10/07/2011 2:29:38 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: Bitsy

If Romney is the nominee, the MSM will do a full-court press to expose Mormonism, they are playing it close to the vest for now, in the hopes Romney is the nominee.


28 posted on 10/07/2011 2:32:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: greyfoxx39
A Perry campaign spokesman responded to a request for a comment by merely saying, “The governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult.”

All you kindly, gentle, pious Mormon-hating Christians better get a hold of Governor Perry and straighten him out!

Straighten our Herman Cain while you're at it. He apparently thinks Mormons are Christians.

LOL!

29 posted on 10/07/2011 2:33:38 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: Ripliancum
You call Mormonism a cult too, and so does this Pastor. Both of you use public settings to do so. His on the Values Voters Summit on stage in front of thousands. You do it here in front of thousands.

And we are BOTH correct.

30 posted on 10/07/2011 2:35:12 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, America’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39

I have no problem with calling a spade a spade. It probably wasn’t the best decision to voice it unless he had been asked his opinion though. A person should know when to use discretion.

Isn’t it amazing though that we are suppose to blame this on Perry but we are not link “someone” and their “pastor” who preached “G**D**** America”.


31 posted on 10/07/2011 2:35:43 PM PDT by ReaganBaby26 (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: Sporke
First Baptist's Robert Jeffress to Publicly
Shame Stores That Don't Celebrate Christmas

I guess Jeffress is not aware that Christmas
is a pagan feast introduced by a cult.

Could it be that he is unaware that Yah'shua
was, is and will always be a Jew.

And that Yah'shua will return to rule and reign
the world from Jerusalem sitting on King David throne

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

32 posted on 10/07/2011 2:36:12 PM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: ReaganBaby26

He’s essentially trying to turn Perry into the 2012 equivalent of Huckabee, with the Evangelical electorate.

He might succeed, but enough EV leaders are supporting Romney to take that particular club away this time around.


33 posted on 10/07/2011 2:38:14 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: greyfoxx39

34 posted on 10/07/2011 2:39:00 PM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Bitsy

On a pure sociologist’s scale, Mormonism has been around long enough that they aren’t hung up on a single charismatic leader and can pass on leadership without there being deaths. However, they are still pretty quick on excommunication and shunning. Many of the Evangelicals haven’t gotten beyond either. That pretty much puts Mormons somewhere between a sect and an established religion. I think that established religion means that they are so big that you don’t get singled out for failure to attend or tithe. Sociologists don’t give points for right or wrong.


35 posted on 10/07/2011 2:39:19 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Ripliancum
Perry acknowledges he does not think Mormonism is a cult. That makes him an idiot or a liar, you pick.
36 posted on 10/07/2011 2:39:46 PM PDT by itsahoot (Sarah Palin not Chamberlain but definitely not Churchill)
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To: Uri’el-2012
QUICK! Let's change the subject.


37 posted on 10/07/2011 2:40:35 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, America’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t think they will, otherwise they will come off as completely hypocritical for propping up their front man, Harry Reid, for soooooo long.

They are relying on the Primaries to do that. This is why I believe Mitt’s biggest obstacle in seeking the Presidency is the GOP primary, not the General Election.

That said, as a Mormon myself, I’m hoping Cain continues to rise.


38 posted on 10/07/2011 2:41:15 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: greyfoxx39

Next we will see a headline like:

RUMORED, PERSON WHO SAW A PICTURE OF PERRY MAY HAVE HAD LAWN MOWED BY AN ILLEGAL

This is just STUPID.

Cain is as big a racist as they come, Romney is a Rhino dud, Bachman is a little loopy, Perry supports illegals and cronies, Santorum is purple, not sure what Huntsman is... so far the only one who has not done anything foolish lately is Gingrich.

They all have problems and whichever one gets the nomination is going to see even worse ridicule than what has come so far.


39 posted on 10/07/2011 2:41:52 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: itsahoot

Either way, he’s not my pick.


40 posted on 10/07/2011 2:42:03 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: Reagan Man

Early Christians (prior to the Apostasy years later) were considered a cult. I guess we are in good company as Mormongs then.


41 posted on 10/07/2011 2:42:18 PM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Ripliancum; colorcountry
He might succeed, but enough EV leaders are supporting Romney to take that particular club away this time around.

Wanna bet? Many EVs do not follow their "leaders" in lockstep the way the mormons do.

42 posted on 10/07/2011 2:43:42 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, America’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39
It looks like Perry's Pastor comes up short
on his values and knowledge of the WORD.

But he appears long on racism.

Cain is a born-again Baptist.


43 posted on 10/07/2011 2:44:17 PM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

Mormongs... run away... ;-)


44 posted on 10/07/2011 2:44:17 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: greyfoxx39
>“The Governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult.”

Has a great section on Mormonism. Perry's Christianity, or the people he surrounds himself with, are questionable.


http://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Cults-Walter-Martin/dp/1556617143


45 posted on 10/07/2011 2:46:35 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: 353FMG
Until someone asks, no good reason for Perry to respond. I know why you made that post. There is nothing sinister about Perry's personal friendship with his fellow Texan, Aga Kahn. After all, Perry is the Governor of ALL Texans --- Christians, Jews, Muslims, whatever. They're all Americans. Perry initiated a teacher-training program on Islamic history and helped to get that curricula introduced into Texas schools. I see no evidence this is an effort to push Sharia Law, however.

Perry also personally opposes the Ground Zero mosque at the WTC sight but says its a local issue to be decided by the people of NYC. Also, the Governor is a huge supporter, defender and friend of the State of Israel.

46 posted on 10/07/2011 2:46:35 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: greyfoxx39
Yeah, that's a bet I would take.

The opposition to Mitt on account of his faith has dropped in half (or more) since the last election. The White Evangelical Protestant column is very enlightening.

I'm not the betting type, but would love to take you up on it. We could make the bet a steak dinner if you like. Paypal approved. ;-)

47 posted on 10/07/2011 2:51:21 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: greyfoxx39

As much as I dislike Perry, his pastor is dead on right about this one!


48 posted on 10/07/2011 2:53:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: Uri’el-2012

Sure he’s aware how Christmas came into being. Just because something was “introduced by a cult” doesn’t mean it has to remain a cult celebration.

As for Jesus being a Jew, I’ve heard anyone say he wasn’t, and isn’t.

I have also heard him preach more than a few times that Jesus will reign from Jerusalem.

Jeffress is a Christian, he lives as he believes. What’s wrong with that? Romney does the same thing. When they both die, they’ll find out who was right.


49 posted on 10/07/2011 2:55:27 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: behzinlea

Your point would be brilliant if you could follow it up with actually links/statements on FR to mormon haters.


50 posted on 10/07/2011 2:55:29 PM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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