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Both sides turn up the heat in final pipeline hearing
The Washington Times ^ | October 7, 2011 | Tim Devaney

Posted on 10/07/2011 4:36:20 PM PDT by jazusamo

Administration decision due on $7 billion project

A final public hearing on the proposed $7 billion Canada-to-Texas Keystone XL oil pipeline on Friday turned into a heated and often testy battle, filled with boos and cheers for speakers who traveled from across the country to testify.

Protesters gathered outside the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center early in the morning, and then flooded into the hearing room, where a number of them pleaded with the State Department to reconsider its support for the pipeline. Supporters, which include both business and labor groups, say the project will provide needed energy from a reliable ally, reduce the nation’s reliance of overseas suppliers, and create thousands of new construction and maintenance jobs. Critics say the economic benefits are overstated and that the project bisecting the nation’s midsection will wreak environmental havoc on sensitive lands along its path.

The State Department, which must approve the proposal as the pipeline originates across the border in Canada, appears to be leaning toward approval despite a series of increasingly passionate public hearings in recent weeks, both in Washington and in the field, on the Keystone pipeline. Opponents say lobbying by TransCanada and U.S. energy interests has tilted the debate in favor of approval, a charge the State Department has rejected.

State Department officials will now review the public comments, and wrap up a 90-day review period in mid-November. Then, it will issue it’s final decision to the White House in December. President Obama has faced pressure from environmental groups, including a series of protests outside the White House, as the decision day has neared.

At Friday’s packed hearing, Robin Mann, director of Sierra Club, an environmental group, said she had come all the way from Pennsylvannia to make her voice heard...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; environuts; keystonexl; pipeline
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The enviro nuts turned out in force to ensure we stay dependent on oil from nations not friendly to us.
1 posted on 10/07/2011 4:36:23 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

White House will never let this happen.


2 posted on 10/07/2011 4:38:49 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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What does piping oil to the gulf, at tax payers expense, so it can be sold on the world market, have to-do with our staying dependent on foreign oil, refine it in the north if you want to help the us market.
3 posted on 10/07/2011 4:40:18 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: org.whodat

It’s my undestanding it’s being piped to the refineries in Texas for our use.


4 posted on 10/07/2011 4:42:32 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

5 posted on 10/07/2011 4:44:41 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Yeah, let’s waste more billions on solar panels and windmills that don’t work and damage the landscape way more than this pipeline ever will.


6 posted on 10/07/2011 4:50:07 PM PDT by Argus
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To: org.whodat

what do you mean taxpayer’s expense? evidence please.


7 posted on 10/07/2011 4:53:08 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: jazusamo
Wrong, newt said the other-day, it was not. There is no way the existing refineries can take the load. Canadian oil companies want to run the pipe across the united states for the tax freebies. Let them pay for it and run it to Olympia.
8 posted on 10/07/2011 4:54:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: org.whodat
refine it in the north if you want to help the us market.

Why? There's already refineries in the south. How does refining and shipping separated product help, or how is it cost-effective?

9 posted on 10/07/2011 4:54:45 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Argus

Exactly! The enviro nuts consider any energy not renewable energy taboo but renewable energy is horribly inefficient and costs way more.


10 posted on 10/07/2011 4:54:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: org.whodat
i>What does piping oil to the gulf, at tax payers expense, so it can be sold on the world market, have to-do with our staying dependent on foreign oil, refine it in the north if you want to help the us market.

Once again, you reveal your ignorance.

The refined products will be consumed in the US of A. We no longer export finished product, except under special circumstances (i.e., under contract, in exchange for crude from Mexico, bunker fuel for ships returning to foreign ports).

All the distributive pipelines in the US market originate on the Gulf Coast, where the refineries are. In order to distribute from northern refineries, a whole new set of distributive pipelines would need to be built.

You can generally count on businesses to make the most efficient economic decisions. Whether you agree with them or not.

11 posted on 10/07/2011 4:55:00 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: org.whodat

Link?


12 posted on 10/07/2011 4:56:19 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: mamelukesabre

If you do not know what depreciation/and depletion is, it is to late for me to explain it to you.


13 posted on 10/07/2011 4:56:59 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: jazusamo

ditto.


14 posted on 10/07/2011 4:57:59 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
So how is piping it south and piping it back north to market cost effective, are have they stopped driving in denver and chicago, etc. Etc.
15 posted on 10/07/2011 4:59:29 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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I live about 75 feet from a segment of pipe that was part of "The Big Inch". It bisects the nation for well over a thousand miles.

I've noticed that the squirrels two streets North are predominantly black this year, but on this side of the bisection they are gray. In other years they've been red here, gray there, or white there and black here.

Oh the humanity.

Who are these econuts who imagine a pipeline bisects anything. For the most part it's going to be 30 feet deep in the ground!

There's already a substantial pipeline into the area. This is an ADDITIONAL PIPELINE.

The great advantage is this will pipe the oil to EXISTING year round refineries.

16 posted on 10/07/2011 5:04:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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So how is piping it south and piping it back north to market cost effective, are have they stopped driving in denver and chicago, etc. Etc.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

You realize that there is some profit derived by the refiner--why shouldn't it be in the U. S.? And, there's a pretty good transportation infrastructure centered around Oklahoma. Isn't that more centrally located than the Canadian field for distribution around the U. S.? And why build refineries up there if they exist here?

Now, if my assumptions are wrong, and the pipeline will cause some problems, tell me about it, and I'll reconsider my take on the situation.

17 posted on 10/07/2011 5:05:14 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: mamelukesabre
Just think of the thousands of americans, forced to sell their property in a down real estate market. Guess bitching about cities taking property and selling to investors is not ok now.
18 posted on 10/07/2011 5:05:31 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: org.whodat
What tax freebies? Don't you realize that the pipeline that runs it West is a CHICOM pipeline. They are stealing oil that should be ours by all that's right and holy.

We don't need more Chicom interests in our country, or Canada! Americans who want to give stuff to the Chicoms should be investigated closely and punished appropriately.

19 posted on 10/07/2011 5:07:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pearls Before Swine

There is nothing wrong with building new refriners, just south of the border is there. At least they would not be shutting down and running up price everytime a storm hits the gulf.


20 posted on 10/07/2011 5:08:18 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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