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California Begins Moving Prisoners
NY Times ^ | Oct. 8, 2011 | Jennifer Medina

Posted on 10/08/2011 2:56:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

LOS ANGELES — Facing an unprecedented order from the Supreme Court to decrease its inmate population by 11,000 over the next three months and by 34,000 over the next two years, California prisons last week began to shift inmates to county jails and probation officers, starting what many believe will be a fundamental and far-reaching change in the nation’s largest corrections system.

Last spring, the Supreme Court ruled that overcrowding and poor conditions in state prisons violated inmates’ constitutional rights and, in a first, ordered a state to rapidly decrease its inmate population. Gov. Jerry Brown and the Legislature approved a plan that would place many more offenders in the custody of individual counties.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; crime; jerrybrown; prisoners
Under the plan, inmates who have committed nonviolent, nonserious and nonsexual offenses will be released back to the county probation system rather than to state parole officers. Those newly convicted of such crimes will be sent directly to the counties, which will decide if they should go to a local jail or to an alternative community program. And newly accused defendants may wear electronic monitoring bracelets while they await trial.

Chickens coming home to roost.

Also, no mention of illegals in the article. Does anyone want to guess how much the illegals contribute to the "overcrowding?"

1 posted on 10/08/2011 2:56:21 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

They need the cell blocks for dormitories for the illegals attending college at resident rates.


2 posted on 10/08/2011 2:59:21 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: La Enchiladita

Brown is going to solve that problem by letting the illegals out and paying their way through college using taxpayer dollars.


3 posted on 10/08/2011 3:01:38 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: gorush

“They need the cell blocks for dormitories for the illegals attending college at resident rates.”

No, that would be HEARTLESS. Don’t you know better.


4 posted on 10/08/2011 3:01:43 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: La Enchiladita

Let them all loose in Hollywerd. ;-)


5 posted on 10/08/2011 3:02:20 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: La Enchiladita
i guess building MORE prisons is out of the question...
6 posted on 10/08/2011 4:11:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
In Ohio John Kasich is moving to relocate nonviolent offenders with short term sentences from prisons to less restrictive environments like halfway houses.

Part of the reason is budgetary, but also recognition that enclosing nonviolent novice offenders with hard core felons even for a year or less, does bad things to the short termer in terms of socializing him into the criminal subculture, including prison islam.

Maybe this court order will force California to make a virtue of necessity.

7 posted on 10/08/2011 4:55:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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i agree that many nonviolent first time offenders might be able to get an alternate type of sentence, but maybe if they sent some of the illegals back to their home countries there'd be more room

course with our porous border they might be back sooner than later if their home country doesn't want to spend their money incarcerating them

8 posted on 10/08/2011 5:10:35 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: La Enchiladita
Brown just signed their own Dream Act so they are not a problem. </sarcasm>
9 posted on 10/08/2011 5:20:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (Sarah Palin not Chamberlain but definitely not Churchill)
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To: La Enchiladita

I actually completely agree with the Supreme court decision,I don’t get why they can’t be send to some other State’s prison.Surely they will them take in if California offers some kind of incentive.


10 posted on 10/08/2011 6:12:29 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Del Rapier

Could it be the Prison Guards union is preventing shipping them to other states? I know that’s why we don’t have private enterprise prisons here...


11 posted on 10/08/2011 6:59:53 PM PDT by tubebender (She was only a whiskey maker, but I loved her still.)
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To: La Enchiladita

States: “Help Us, Criminal Illegals Swamp Budgets, Prisons”

The General Accounting Office estimates that as of 2009 there were currently about 350,000 criminal aliens in U.S. prisons, “the majority from Mexico.” At $30,000 per year, per inmate, that’s $11 billion annually, with most of the costs born by the states.

While not all of the criminal aliens are here illegally, criminal illegals are putting a strain on budgets, especially in the states with large illegal immigration populations such as Arizona, Colorado, California, Florida, New York, and Texas.

Not coincidentally, many of those same states are facing the largest budget shortfalls for fiscal year 2011 and 2012, including New York and California. Some estimate state budget shortfalls of over $100 billion in 2012 across state governments in the U.S.

In California, it’s estimated that prisoners who are illegal immigrants cost the state at least $1 billion per year just to keep them in prison. States: “Help Us, Criminal Illegals Swamp Budgets, Prisons”
Townhall.com ^ | June 10, 2011 | John Ransom

Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 8:49:27 AM by Kaslin

The General Accounting Office estimates that as of 2009 there were currently about 350,000 criminal aliens in U.S. prisons, “the majority from Mexico.” At $30,000 per year, per inmate, that’s $11 billion annually, with most of the costs born by the states.

While not all of the criminal aliens are here illegally, criminal illegals are putting a strain on budgets, especially in the states with large illegal immigration populations such as Arizona, Colorado, California, Florida, New York, and Texas.

Not coincidentally, many of those same states are facing the largest budget shortfalls for fiscal year 2011 and 2012, including New York and California. Some estimate state budget shortfalls of over $100 billion in 2012 across state governments in the U.S.

In California, it’s estimated that prisoners who are illegal immigrants cost the state at least $1 billion per year just to keep them in prison.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2732775/posts


12 posted on 10/08/2011 9:26:57 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: BobL

So says Katie Perry.


13 posted on 10/08/2011 9:28:11 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Del Rapier
Surely they will them take in if California offers some kind of incentive.

Other states might not accept California IOUs.

14 posted on 10/09/2011 6:39:28 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: WOBBLY BOB
In California, it’s estimated that prisoners who are illegal immigrants cost the state at least $1 billion per year just to keep them in prison.

Worth repeating. At the same time, CA will now shell out $14.5 million for illegals' college tuition. Add this to all the medical, educational and food stamps benefits...... and ....

15 posted on 10/09/2011 2:03:45 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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