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Al Sharpton Gets Civil Rights History Wrong
Townhall.com ^ | October 9, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/09/2011 4:47:10 PM PDT by Kaslin

Turns out Herman Cain may have been onto something when he said blacks have been brainwashed into voting for democrats. MSNBC host Rev. Al Sharpton has made it clear he is one of those people Cain was talking about. Sharpton claimed on his show Friday night that democrats supported the Civil Rights act of 1964, problem is, more republicans supported the bill than democrats. The Klu Klux Klan was also founded by democrats and democrats threw Martin Luther King Jr. in jail.

Media Research Center's Noel Sheppard explains:

The House version of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by only 61 percent of that Chamber's Democrats versus 80 percent of the Republicans.

More importantly, it was Republicans that ended a Democrat filibuster preventing a vote on this bill in the Senate. 82 percent of Republicans voted for cloture versus 66 percent of Democrats.

In the final Senate vote on the Act, 82 percent of Republicans voted "Aye" versus 69 percent of Democrats.

The same is true for the Voting Rights Act of 1965 when 94 percent of Senate Republicans voted in favor of the bill versus 73 percent of Democrats. The final vote on the House's version was even more stark as only one Senate Republican voted against it compared to seventeen Democrats.

In the House, 82 percent of Republicans supported the bill versus 78 percent of Democrats.

Sharpton Doesn't Know Higher Percentage of Republicans Than Democrats Voted for Civil Rights Act

Also, Sharpton recently debated Herman Cain's "blackness," with Professor Karen Hunter on his radio show, saying Cain isn't trying to get black votes but trying to impress the Right.

UNREAL: Sharpton, Professor Debate Herman Cain's 'Blackness'

And now, I give you Alfonzo Rachel, who wonders why blacks are so loyal to democrats.

The Democrat party has been the pro-slavery party, the pro-segregation party, the anti-civil rights party, but the majority of the black community votes democrat.

Examining Black Loyalty to Democrats


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1 posted on 10/09/2011 4:47:14 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

People as a collective has the attention span of a 2 year old. What counts is how much free sh** you can get and who is giving it.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 4:50:55 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: bigheadfred

Al Sharpton definitely knows the facts. He just knows that a majority of urban blacks educated in public schools aka Holder’s people don’t. That is whom he was speaking to.

In other words, he was intentionally lying to the people he claims to care for...


3 posted on 10/09/2011 4:57:06 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Kaslin

Two words fat boy.....TAWANY BRAWLEY look it up! Lives and careers ruined because this piece of garbage pushed a lie for his own benefit. SCUM


4 posted on 10/09/2011 5:05:12 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Kaslin

He’s so brainwashed that you can still see the suds flowing out of his ears.


5 posted on 10/09/2011 5:17:19 PM PDT by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: Kaslin
Al Sharpton Gets Civil Rights History Wrong

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Al Sharpton???

Sharpton is WAAAY too sharp to get civil rights history wrong, why he lives and breathes it! /s

6 posted on 10/09/2011 5:19:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: windcliff

AlfonZo Rachel on target as usual. Excellent video!


7 posted on 10/09/2011 5:19:38 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: Kaslin

That last link (Examining Black Loyalty to Democrats) is fabulous. Everybody should view it.

And you might be interested in a little thing I wrote on the topic too, called “A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism,” at

http://russp.us/racism.htm

We really need to wake people to the historical truth.


8 posted on 10/09/2011 5:19:54 PM PDT by RussP
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To: Kaslin
...Sharpton claimed on his show Friday night that democrats supported the Civil Rights act of 1964, problem is, more republicans supported the bill than democrats. The Klu Klux Klan was also founded by democrats and democrats threw Martin Luther King Jr. in jail.

Dems kept Byrd's KKK membership a secret for years too... How'd they get away with such a blatant lie? ... The MSM covered for them.

Hey Sharpton - dems have played you for a fool - again - and again - and again.

9 posted on 10/09/2011 5:20:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: bigheadfred
What counts is how much free sh** you can get and who is giving it.

Nothing is free, the poor souls who think they are pulling one over and gaming the system are just too out of touch to realize it.

10 posted on 10/09/2011 5:22:18 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

“BUT RESIST WE MUCH, WE MUST, AND WE WILL MUCH, ABOUT THAT, BE COMMITTED!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqQe4KOrvsM


11 posted on 10/09/2011 5:25:35 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sure sharpton knew the facts. He’s a typical, pathological democrat LIAR who doesn’t want any slaves to get off HIS plantation.


12 posted on 10/09/2011 5:51:38 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: GOPJ

I posted this the other day:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789024/posts

The fact is that the Northeastern Democrats during reconstruction didn’t want the black in the south voting. They new that due to the number of BLACK REPUBLICANS the Dems would not control anything.
The Democrat President who had made a deal with “moderate Repubs” (aka RINOS) turned on them and went along with the noethern Dems to prevent Blacks as FREEDMEN from getting a vote.
The RINOS fearing the RADICAL REPUBS cut a deal.

Democrats and RINOS are a danger to everyones freedom.


13 posted on 10/09/2011 6:26:26 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Kaslin

I believe it was Muslim slave traders who captured Africans and sold them into slavery. Yet young Blacks take Muslim names and follow the cult of Islam and the cult of the Black Muslims (beliefs drastically different).

When will they learn their own history, instead of always blaming the country where they found freedom, unlike many Blacks in Africa who live in horrible situations/


14 posted on 10/09/2011 6:27:33 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: Kaslin; wardaddy; Kenny Bunk; Travis McGee

“The House version of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by only 61 percent of that Chamber’s Democrats versus 80 percent of the Republicans.
More importantly, it was Republicans that ended a Democrat filibuster preventing a vote on this bill in the Senate. 82 percent of Republicans voted for cloture versus 66 percent of Democrats.
In the final Senate vote on the Act, 82 percent of Republicans voted “Aye” versus 69 percent of Democrats.”

This is a fool’s game. The Democratic and Republican parties of 1964 were much different than they are today.

The GOP was dominated by its liberal wing which actively worked to defeat Barry Goldwater. Goldwater voted against those bills. Those bills were pushed by the likes of Rockefeller, Javits, Mathias, Brooke, Case, Scranton, Percy, George Romney.

The Democrats of that time had a large conservative bloc consisting of southern and western Democrats. They were a major portion of “the conservative coalition” which ruled Congress from the late 1930s on and had played a major role in frustrating FDR’s New Deal.

But apparently today all that counts is party designation, and if that obscures the past well we will just go with the myth over the facts.


15 posted on 10/09/2011 6:37:33 PM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: RussP

Do you mind if I pass this on to my e-pals?


16 posted on 10/09/2011 6:47:01 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Of course not. Go for it!


17 posted on 10/09/2011 6:51:15 PM PDT by RussP
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To: RussP

Thanks


18 posted on 10/09/2011 6:59:05 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Pelham

OK. Someone who knows what they are talking about.


19 posted on 10/09/2011 7:03:39 PM PDT by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: Yulee

From kaslin: “I believe it was Muslim slave traders who captured Africans and sold them into slavery. Yet young Blacks take Muslim names and follow the cult of Islam and the cult of the Black Muslims (beliefs drastically different).”

Actually, the initial capture was usually a more powerful African tribe taking anyone they could and selling to the highest or handiest bidder. Thomas Sowell mentioned that these African slavers sold roughly the same number of slaves to the Arabs as were shipped to the New World: about 15 million each way.

America has millions of descendants of this shameful trade living free and many holding office (No, I do not include our President; black he may be, descended from American slaves, he ain’t).

Where are the modern day remnants of the Arab slave trade? Easy answer, they outdid us as far as horrific treatment of slaves. They worked them to death. Literally. Each and every slave they marched across Africa died without legacy.

And this “religion of peace” wants to rule the world.


20 posted on 10/09/2011 8:14:07 PM PDT by barkeep (Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc)
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To: barkeep
"Where are the modern day remnants of the Arab slave trade? Easy answer, they outdid us as far as horrific treatment of slaves. They worked them to death. Literally."

They also castrated the males before they marched them east.

21 posted on 10/09/2011 8:20:54 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Kaslin
America has always succeed when we support the rule of law and natural rights. And fail we don't
22 posted on 10/09/2011 8:56:20 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Kaslin

Thank god there was a “civil rights movement” ... we got the MLK federal holiday, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, post-1967 Detroit, the O.J. Simpson trial and the greatest legacy of the “civil rights movement” which is Barack Hussein Obama.

Gosh, I am so happy that Barack Hussein Obama is president ... it makes me we want to go out and ride the bus here in Montgomery. Oh wait ... no one who is white in this city really rides the bus anymore, even though we pay for it, because it is unsafe now.

Thanks “civil rights movement.”


23 posted on 10/09/2011 9:29:03 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: Pelham; Travis McGee; Jack Black; Black Agnes; Twink; stainlessbanner; central_va

plenty of freepers including some potent (and literary)ones and most GOP pundits are either ignorant of the truth of that era or willfully ignore how times actually were and parse a PC on race view

Beck and Hannity are worst offenders of folks we think of as conservative..all the Neos talk the party line stuff...Coulter, Will, WSJ folks, and so forth

Rush next..and I like Rush and know he knows better but he got McNabbed publicly and has Snerdly staring him in the face..so..there u are

then Levin...another one I like to he goes anti Southern on me...sometimes I think Levin wants to be frank but his Republicanism holds him back

only Savage actually calls it like it was on that 60s race legislation and notable figures from then

did I leave anyone out?

You pretty much have to go to sites not welcome here to get a realspeak view of CRA, VRA and so forth that many glowingly attribute as GOP “successes” blussfully ignorant that those acts killed American culture..likely forver

Most folks who post here would never figure Reagan, Buckley and Goldwater agreed more with John Stennis or Strom Thurmond back then than they did many of their fellow GOP folks...


24 posted on 10/09/2011 10:31:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: barkeep; Yulee
Each and every slave they marched across Africa died without legacy.

It wasn't just due to working to death -- they also snipped off important bits of the male slaves while the female slaves were comfort women or worse.

25 posted on 10/10/2011 1:20:17 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: reg45

The “Graft Zeppelin” is an imbecile..


26 posted on 10/10/2011 1:57:11 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Kaslin
Al Sharpton Gets Civil Rights History Wrong

What are the odds.

27 posted on 10/10/2011 4:40:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pelham
The GOP was dominated by its liberal wing which actively worked to defeat Barry Goldwater.

The Democrats of that time had a large conservative bloc consisting of southern and western Democrats.

Goldwater voted against those bills.

So-o-o-o....why didn't Goldwater run as a DemocRAT?

28 posted on 10/10/2011 4:54:51 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pelham
The Democrats of that time had a large conservative bloc consisting of southern and western Democrats. They were a major portion of “the conservative coalition” which ruled Congress from the late 1930s on and had played a major role in frustrating FDR’s New Deal.

Ah. Makes perfect sense.

So. How's it going down there on Occupy Wall Street? I've been wondering. Where do you guys go to the bathroom? Oh, wait. Is this you?


29 posted on 10/10/2011 4:58:40 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pelham; Kaslin
Ah, yes. DemocRATS were SO Conservative back then that they were able to "frustrate" FDR's New Deal, but, by golly, by gum, it got through anyways.

As did Socialist Security. As did LBJ's Great Society, MediCare, War On Poverty. And virtually every other drain on America's economic system that we are dealing with today.

Perhaps what has changed is the definition of "Conservatism". What we know as Conservatism today didn't even really exist back then. It was William F. Buckley, Jr, William Rusher and a few others who brought forth the ideology we know as Conservatism today.

30 posted on 10/10/2011 5:10:35 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: wardaddy
I like Rush and know he knows better but he got McNabbed publicly and has Snerdly staring him in the face..so..there u are

Rush didn't get McNabbed. If anything he got Palined. His words were taken out of context just like Sarah Palin's when she exhorted The Tea Party audience she was addressing to "party like it's 1773".

Rush was criticizing sports writers and talking heads, not McNabb.

As for the Snerdly thing. What does that even mean, "there u are"?

Why are you and Michael Savage so jealous of Rush's and Sean "Wallbanger" Hannity's success? What difference does it make that Hannity used to be a contractor?

Oh, by the way, Savage's real last name is Weiner.

But, then, I guess if you're going to attack others on baseless grounds, it sounds more manly to call yourself Savage than Weiner.

31 posted on 10/10/2011 5:21:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

Someone needs to show Sharpton the Pimp exactly what Al Gore’s father’s voting record was.

Acorns don’t fall far from the tree. I think Gore jr is just as bigoted.


32 posted on 10/10/2011 6:59:26 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Pelham; Kaslin; wardaddy; Travis McGee; Jack Black; Black Agnes; Twink; stainlessbanner; ...
It's a sad damn day when one's political party's major philosophers, some of whom to put it charitably, have very sketchy educations, are former DJ's whose priorities are actually selling storm doors and gold bars.

Remember back when there was a valid constitutional question about El Máximo's constitutional eligibility to run for and serve President? Where were they then? Selling Computer Back-up Software, Storm Doors, Gold Bars, etc. That's where.

One guy even wrote a book about the Constitution ... and managed to ignore Article II. Since he also wrote a book about his dog, am I to assume that his dog ate Article II?

33 posted on 10/10/2011 7:01:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Team Obama will not shrink from violence to remain in power. Be ready.)
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To: Texas Eagle

“So-o-o-o....why didn’t Goldwater run as a DemocRAT?”

Because he was a Republican.

A western Republican who had more in common with the conservative southern Democrats of the 1960s than he did with the liberal eastern establishment Republicans who dominated the GOP and who worked actively to defeat him.


34 posted on 10/10/2011 8:17:48 AM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Well at least I now know what your mental level is.

That isn’t me, but does look like that clown is about to adhere you to that police car.


35 posted on 10/10/2011 8:21:42 AM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: Texas Eagle

I know well the writing of Rusher, Buckley, Russell Kirk, James Burnham, de Toledano, Whittaker Chambers, Mel Bradford, Herb London. Read them all. Read National Review back when it was worth reading.

I am surprised to see that a scatological nitwit even knows Rusher’s name. Maybe some day you’ll even learn something about the political history of the 60s instead of spouting empty headed slogans. But more likely you won’t.


36 posted on 10/10/2011 8:41:28 AM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: Texas Eagle; Pelham; Kaslin; Kenny Bunk; WilliamHouston; Travis McGee
Pardon me but I actually agree with Rush on about anything but when I hear him make the claim about how great the GOP was over CRA and VRA I cringe.

He knows full well that his icons opposed that legislation and folks he would have opposed then supported all of that.

Nearly all so called conservative pundits do this dance because they think it helps them with black people.

But supporting more and more government intrusion into private rights like all of that did and the identity politics and racial redress monster it all created is not conservative.

Conservatism is about truth and liberty. All of that 60s race legislation while waxing about liberty did far more damage than good and there is a reason the conservative Holy Trinity of the day..Magnus, Buck and Goldwater opposed it all.
Savage is Jewish you say? Shucks..so is Levin. Who cares? Would that more Jews followed their lead.

I could care less what Hannity did for a living? Why bring that up...that makes as much difference as you bringing up Savage's Jewishness.

I agree with Rush and Levin more than anyone including Savage. But I diverge with them over this issue as I assume I do with you as well.

The dirty secret no one dare utter is that most Southern Democrats were more conservative than Northeastern GOP...that is what the Buckley-Goldwater-Reagan(and others) upheaval in the GOP was all about and to diminish the power of the liberals like Rockefeller and so forth.

How did they do this...ultimately with Reagan, John Tower and Trent Lott and the Southern Strategy. And it worked. White Mississippians now vote 90% GOP in national elections. LQC Lamar woulda never believed that would happen after the dark days of Depression. White southerners left the ever more progressive Democrats..a turn of events that NeoYankees and folks PC over race have a hard time accepting..even here and especially amongst pundits and writers...without white southerners, the GOP would be a perpetual minority party...and my be soon anyhow if they don't shut the borders or buck up and embrace their base.

One last preempt..since I figure your next arrow in your quiver will be New Deal talk and southern Dems...Dems in the South were split...much like Civil Rights it took GOP crossovers to get it done. Here in TN, most of the Congressional Democrats..Crump folks...voted against FDR stuff time and again except notably a young Estes Kefauver of Mafia grandstanding fame who later supported early racial redress legislation...no surprise there huh?....populism ala FDR and Kingfish had no lock all over Dixie like revisionists enjoy portraying.

It is simply disingenuous for some conservative notables to parse this history like they do...Dems always libs, GOP always conservative and righteous which usually translates..”South bad, North and West good”...our political history much like life in general is much more complicated.

The other day I was reading an early Reagan talk on communism and he actually attributed the origins of the Democrat party to Jefferson...now this is how I was taught too but can you imagine that now from our conservative pundits..they like to write the Dems from whole cloth ala Jackson...the first POTUS they really hate ..

Snerdly is black...I doubt even I in these heated times over anything not white would go on and on how excessive or unnecessary that the 60s race legislation was given he is right in front of him..and Rush having been bit by the black bug so many times is perhaps wary anyhow...anything he utters about blacks is reported everywhere in seconds and mis quoted or out of context.

Perhaps he could say...Why didn't we just enforce the Constitution? All that legislation didn't create freedom it created a mess of dependence, victimhood, Balkanization and an extortion industry sanctioned by various government agencies and hurt blacks far more than helped them especially in family cohesiveness but one could argue that different. The white family has collapsed too and we never got any of that. What killed segregation and discrimination for the most part nationwide is whites gave up and have been browbeaten to submit and have enormous guilt and shame to even utter a defense of racial separation regardless of any empirical or anecdotal proof things were better before in any aspect.

I was around then...nothing is better today except medical care, fancy ballistics and automobile handling...and universal AC...I actually lived in Mississippi as a lad for the first 15 years of my life with no AC...an attic fan..imagine that...and I am quite obviously 100% southern peckerwood and my family extended and otherwise always eschewed handouts and my dad and granddad were GOP from Truman onwards...just for reference as well as not being favorable to FDR though dad was too young Good day.

37 posted on 10/10/2011 8:59:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: Kaslin

Al Sharpton is Sean Hannity’s “good friend”.


38 posted on 10/10/2011 9:02:23 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross

Why don’t you go and sue him. *rme*


39 posted on 10/10/2011 9:08:33 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Pelham
Me: “So-o-o-o....why didn’t Goldwater run as a DemocRAT?”

You:Because he was a Republican.

LOL! Oh.

You: A western Republican who had more in common with the conservative southern Democrats of the 1960s than he did with the liberal eastern establishment Republicans who dominated the GOP and who worked actively to defeat him.

If he had more in common with the Conservative southern DemocRATS than he did with the Liberal eastern Establishment Republicans, why was he a Republican at all? Who was the Southern Conservative dominated RAT candidate in 1964? If memory serves it was a Conservative (by your logic) Southerner named Lyndon Baines Johnson. The man who gave us The Great Society, The War On Poverty, and other government-expanding programs that have only served to shackle blacks in dependency and substandard living conditions for decades.

Further, if the Eastern Establishment Republicans dominated the GOP, how did he become the Republican nominee for President?

Your argument simply makes no sense.

40 posted on 10/10/2011 10:52:00 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: wardaddy
Where to begin, where to begin.

Pardon me but I actually agree with Rush on about anything but when I hear him make the claim about how great the GOP was over CRA and VRA I cringe.

I'm not sure I've ever heard Rus gush over how great The CRA and VRA was (were?), he simply points out that RATS evoke those Acts as basis for their virtual unanimous support of RAT candidates since. That's all.

Nearly all so called conservative pundits do this dance because they think it helps them with black people.

Ah. I see your point. I suggest a new strategy. Republican candidates should try to win the hearts of black voters by espousing the view that they should never had the right to vote offered to them. Damn, if only I possessed such brilliance, I could be somebody!

Savage is Jewish you say? Shucks..so is Levin. Who cares? Would that more Jews followed their lead.

The voices in your head misled you. I never mentioned Wiener's or Levin's religious affiliations. I simply pointed out Savage's real name was Wiener. YOU made the Jewish connection.

I could care less what Hannity did for a living? Why bring that up...that makes as much difference as you bringing up Savage's Jewishness.

A) You mean you COULDN'T care less. No need to thank me for sparing you future embarrassment.

B)Savage regularly mocks Hannity's past career as if it matters somehow.

C)I didn't bring up Savage's....oh, wait....we've already been through this.

Snerdly is black...I doubt even I in these heated times over anything not white would go on and on how excessive or unnecessary that the 60s race legislation was given he is right in front of him..and Rush having been bit by the black bug so many times is perhaps wary anyhow...

No response necessary other than if Savage ever goes back to the psychological industry, you could keep him in opulence for the rest of his or your natural life.

41 posted on 10/10/2011 11:04:56 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

” If memory serves it was a Conservative (by your logic) Southerner named Lyndon Baines Johnson.”

That’s not my logic. In fact that’s not logic at all, you’re using the common fallacy of petitio principii, “begging the question”. A good book on logical fallacies would benefit you, although the downside is that it would make your posts less entertaining.

Lyndon Johnson was a protege of FDR and as liberal as he could be. This set him far apart from the majority of Democrats in the south. Just as Barry Goldwater’s western conservatism set him far apart from the eastern establishment that ran the GOP in the 1960s.

And to inject a bit of history into your cartoonish rendering of Johnson’s Presidency, it was only with the cooperation of GOP liberals that Johnson’s Great Society programs passed.

Even the moderate Everett Dirksen was guilty of assisting Johnson in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, something Goldwater voted against. That’s the same Goldwater that Reagan supported with The Speech that started his political career.

“Further, if the Eastern Establishment Republicans dominated the GOP, how did he (Goldwater) become the Republican nominee for President? Your argument simply makes no sense.”

You mean you don’t know? Well the same William Rusher you were pretending to know up the thread wrote a book on how he, Rusher, and a small dedicated group of conservatives formed the Draft Goldwater Committee and won Barry the nomination against the fierce opposition of the Republican establishment.

It’s titled “The Rise of the Right”. Get that and a copy of “Copi’s Logic”. Make sure you read them instead of using them as doorstops.


42 posted on 10/10/2011 11:52:48 AM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: Pelham
” If memory serves it was a Conservative (by your logic) Southerner named Lyndon Baines Johnson.” That’s not my logic. In fact that’s not logic at all, you’re using the common fallacy of petitio principii, “begging the question”. A good book on logical fallacies would benefit you, although the downside is that it would make your posts less entertaining. Lyndon Johnson was a protege of FDR and as liberal as he could be. This set him far apart from the majority of Democrats in the south.

And yet, those same Conservative DemocRATS that "dominated" the RAT Party at the time, STILL chose him to be their nominee even though he was a Liberal from a Conservative Southern state. No. Wait. DemocRATS from Southern states were Conservatives back then. No. Wait. If DemocRATS from Southern states back then were Conservative then how did a Liberal like Johnson....

I'm sorry. I guess I just don't understand fellatio principii ad nauseum semper virens or whatever you called it.

Just as Barry Goldwater’s western conservatism set him far apart from the eastern establishment that ran the GOP in the 1960s.

Eastern Establishmet Republicans who "dominated" the GOP and STILL chose him to be their nominee. Maybe I shoulda gone to college. Perhaps you could tell me how the word "dominated" is defined in colleges and universties. Maybe then an uneducated hick such as myself will be able to understand what you're saying. Excuse me while I stuff another pinch of chaw between my cheek and gum.

And to inject a bit of history into your cartoonish rendering of Johnson’s Presidency,

Cartoonish? Hey, I didn't draw those ears. Those were real.

it was only with the cooperation of GOP liberals that Johnson’s Great Society programs passed.

OHHHHHHH! So you are willing to grant The GOP of the day credit for passing Johnson's cartoonish Great Society and War On Poverty programs but NOT for helping him pass Civil Rights legislation.

Am I getting closer?

Even the moderate Everett Dirksen was guilty of assisting Johnson in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, something Goldwater voted against. That’s the same Goldwater that Reagan supported with The Speech that started his political career.

Everett Dirksen? Okay, now you're just making names up.

“Further, if the Eastern Establishment Republicans dominated the GOP, how did he (Goldwater) become the Republican nominee for President? Your argument simply makes no sense.” You mean you don’t know? Well the same William Rusher you were pretending to know up the thread wrote a book on how he, Rusher, and a small dedicated group of conservatives formed the Draft Goldwater Committee and won Barry the nomination against the fierce opposition of the Republican establishment.

The "fierce" opposition that helped pass The Great Society but didn't help pass The Civil Rights Act. Got it.

It’s titled “The Rise of the Right”. Get that and a copy of “Copi’s Logic”. Make sure you read them instead of using them as doorstops.

Then how will I hold my door open?

To recap: Today's Republicans should refrain from suggesting that they helped pass The Civil Rights Act in order to gain favor with black voters even though a larger percentage of them voted for it than DemocRATS of the time BECAUSE today's Republicans are yesterday's DemocRATS, but, at the same time, they should not deny that they helped pass The Great Society and other cartoonish Johnson programs in order to gain favor with black voters because yesterday's Republicans were.....wait....I lost myself there somewhere.

Let me start over. Republicans bad, DemocRATS good.

Huh? Not bad, right?

Wait a minute! I think I got it! Everybody was on acid back then!

Orrrrrrrrr.....you're on acid now.

43 posted on 10/10/2011 12:37:16 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pelham
Lyndon Johnson was a protege of FDR and as liberal as he could be. This set him far apart from the majority of Democrats in the south.

I figured it out! Back in the 60s, Texas was an Upper Northwest Plains state located in the South Pacific Yukon Territory.

Whew! Now I totally understand.

44 posted on 10/10/2011 12:42:50 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

That sounds fact and logic free enough to represent what passes for thought in your little noggin.

For those, not you, who wish to learn something about Lyndon Johnson, googling “Lyndon Johnson protege FDR” yields 450,000 hits including a selection from Robert Caro’s LBJ biography “Master of the Senate”

I can understand why you never learned that Lyndon Johnson was an FDR liberal- that information was cruelly hidden from you inside of books.

If we could just get that into some really cool cartoons a whole new generation of Texas Eagles could learn what you missed.


45 posted on 10/10/2011 1:00:34 PM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: Pelham
I can understand why you never learned that Lyndon Johnson was an FDR liberal- that information was cruelly hidden from you inside of books.

I appreciate the sentiment. However, I feel compelled (excuse me while I spit out a little tobacky juice), to point out that you are the one that said yesterday's DemocRATS were the equivalent of today's Conservatives especially in the southern states like Texas which shoulda (excuse my dialect) SHOULD HAVE meant Johnson was a big Conservative, but, instead, he was perhaps the biggest Liberal (I'm putting two and two together here based on your assertion that he was an FDR protege [whatever that word means]) *patooie* (sorry for spittin' without warnin' ya), and yet those same Republicans of yesteryear who are today's DemocRATS are to blame for helping Johnson pass the biggest government expansion since The New Deal.

So, in short, today's Republicans shouldn't take any credit (or blame, depending on your point of view) for passing Civil Rights legislation because today's mean ol' hateful Republicans are yesterday's mean ol' hateful DemocRATS but today's good ol' boy Republicans SHOULD take the blame (or credit, depending on your point of view) for helping pass cartoonish Great Society programs because they are yesterday's good ol' boy DemocRATS.

Or something like that.

Just to shuck it down to the cob as we say down here in The South (actually, I'm from The West - California to be specific - but I'm just pretendin' to be from The South for the sake of this argument), Republicans, bad. DemocRATS good.

46 posted on 10/10/2011 1:57:07 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: piytar

Many urban blacks probably don’t know that it was a REPUBLICAN President, Abraham Lincoln, who gave them their freedom, either.


47 posted on 10/10/2011 2:13:14 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Texas Eagle; Pelham
(actually, I'm from The West - California to be specific - but I'm just pretendin' to be from The South for the sake of this argument)

Wow..who knew?

48 posted on 10/11/2011 9:31:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (we have entered whatever land here on FR..maybe we will find our bearing again some day)
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To: GOPJ

Which is the Real ‘Racist’ Party: Fifteen Questions for Democrats
http://bigjournalism.com/fross/2010/02/08/which-is-the-real-racist-party-fifteen-questions-for-democrats/
Great Moments in Democrat Racist History - FDR
http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/04/great-moments-in-democrat-racist.html


49 posted on 10/14/2011 10:32:27 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: barkeep

Is it true that once an African became a slave in the Muslim world, that they were emasculated, so they could not reproduce. If true, this realization should bring a change in young blacks attitude about Islam.


50 posted on 10/20/2011 8:54:07 AM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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