Ah. Makes perfect sense.
So. How's it going down there on Occupy Wall Street? I've been wondering. Where do you guys go to the bathroom? Oh, wait. Is this you?
Posted on 10/09/2011 4:47:10 PM PDT by Kaslin
Turns out Herman Cain may have been onto something when he said blacks have been brainwashed into voting for democrats. MSNBC host Rev. Al Sharpton has made it clear he is one of those people Cain was talking about. Sharpton claimed on his show Friday night that democrats supported the Civil Rights act of 1964, problem is, more republicans supported the bill than democrats. The Klu Klux Klan was also founded by democrats and democrats threw Martin Luther King Jr. in jail.
Media Research Center's Noel Sheppard explains:
The House version of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by only 61 percent of that Chamber's Democrats versus 80 percent of the Republicans.More importantly, it was Republicans that ended a Democrat filibuster preventing a vote on this bill in the Senate. 82 percent of Republicans voted for cloture versus 66 percent of Democrats.
In the final Senate vote on the Act, 82 percent of Republicans voted "Aye" versus 69 percent of Democrats.
The same is true for the Voting Rights Act of 1965 when 94 percent of Senate Republicans voted in favor of the bill versus 73 percent of Democrats. The final vote on the House's version was even more stark as only one Senate Republican voted against it compared to seventeen Democrats.
In the House, 82 percent of Republicans supported the bill versus 78 percent of Democrats.
Sharpton Doesn't Know Higher Percentage of Republicans Than Democrats Voted for Civil Rights Act
Also, Sharpton recently debated Herman Cain's "blackness," with Professor Karen Hunter on his radio show, saying Cain isn't trying to get black votes but trying to impress the Right.
UNREAL: Sharpton, Professor Debate Herman Cain's 'Blackness'
And now, I give you Alfonzo Rachel, who wonders why blacks are so loyal to democrats.
The Democrat party has been the pro-slavery party, the pro-segregation party, the anti-civil rights party, but the majority of the black community votes democrat.
Examining Black Loyalty to Democrats
They also castrated the males before they marched them east.
Thank god there was a “civil rights movement” ... we got the MLK federal holiday, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, post-1967 Detroit, the O.J. Simpson trial and the greatest legacy of the “civil rights movement” which is Barack Hussein Obama.
Gosh, I am so happy that Barack Hussein Obama is president ... it makes me we want to go out and ride the bus here in Montgomery. Oh wait ... no one who is white in this city really rides the bus anymore, even though we pay for it, because it is unsafe now.
Thanks “civil rights movement.”
plenty of freepers including some potent (and literary)ones and most GOP pundits are either ignorant of the truth of that era or willfully ignore how times actually were and parse a PC on race view
Beck and Hannity are worst offenders of folks we think of as conservative..all the Neos talk the party line stuff...Coulter, Will, WSJ folks, and so forth
Rush next..and I like Rush and know he knows better but he got McNabbed publicly and has Snerdly staring him in the face..so..there u are
then Levin...another one I like to he goes anti Southern on me...sometimes I think Levin wants to be frank but his Republicanism holds him back
only Savage actually calls it like it was on that 60s race legislation and notable figures from then
did I leave anyone out?
You pretty much have to go to sites not welcome here to get a realspeak view of CRA, VRA and so forth that many glowingly attribute as GOP “successes” blussfully ignorant that those acts killed American culture..likely forver
Most folks who post here would never figure Reagan, Buckley and Goldwater agreed more with John Stennis or Strom Thurmond back then than they did many of their fellow GOP folks...
It wasn't just due to working to death -- they also snipped off important bits of the male slaves while the female slaves were comfort women or worse.
The “Graft Zeppelin” is an imbecile..
What are the odds.
The Democrats of that time had a large conservative bloc consisting of southern and western Democrats.
Goldwater voted against those bills.
So-o-o-o....why didn't Goldwater run as a DemocRAT?
Ah. Makes perfect sense.
So. How's it going down there on Occupy Wall Street? I've been wondering. Where do you guys go to the bathroom? Oh, wait. Is this you?
As did Socialist Security. As did LBJ's Great Society, MediCare, War On Poverty. And virtually every other drain on America's economic system that we are dealing with today.
Perhaps what has changed is the definition of "Conservatism". What we know as Conservatism today didn't even really exist back then. It was William F. Buckley, Jr, William Rusher and a few others who brought forth the ideology we know as Conservatism today.
Rush didn't get McNabbed. If anything he got Palined. His words were taken out of context just like Sarah Palin's when she exhorted The Tea Party audience she was addressing to "party like it's 1773".
Rush was criticizing sports writers and talking heads, not McNabb.
As for the Snerdly thing. What does that even mean, "there u are"?
Why are you and Michael Savage so jealous of Rush's and Sean "Wallbanger" Hannity's success? What difference does it make that Hannity used to be a contractor?
Oh, by the way, Savage's real last name is Weiner.
But, then, I guess if you're going to attack others on baseless grounds, it sounds more manly to call yourself Savage than Weiner.
Someone needs to show Sharpton the Pimp exactly what Al Gore’s father’s voting record was.
Acorns don’t fall far from the tree. I think Gore jr is just as bigoted.
Remember back when there was a valid constitutional question about El Máximo's constitutional eligibility to run for and serve President? Where were they then? Selling Computer Back-up Software, Storm Doors, Gold Bars, etc. That's where.
One guy even wrote a book about the Constitution ... and managed to ignore Article II. Since he also wrote a book about his dog, am I to assume that his dog ate Article II?
“So-o-o-o....why didn’t Goldwater run as a DemocRAT?”
Because he was a Republican.
A western Republican who had more in common with the conservative southern Democrats of the 1960s than he did with the liberal eastern establishment Republicans who dominated the GOP and who worked actively to defeat him.
Well at least I now know what your mental level is.
That isn’t me, but does look like that clown is about to adhere you to that police car.
I know well the writing of Rusher, Buckley, Russell Kirk, James Burnham, de Toledano, Whittaker Chambers, Mel Bradford, Herb London. Read them all. Read National Review back when it was worth reading.
I am surprised to see that a scatological nitwit even knows Rusher’s name. Maybe some day you’ll even learn something about the political history of the 60s instead of spouting empty headed slogans. But more likely you won’t.
He knows full well that his icons opposed that legislation and folks he would have opposed then supported all of that.
Nearly all so called conservative pundits do this dance because they think it helps them with black people.
But supporting more and more government intrusion into private rights like all of that did and the identity politics and racial redress monster it all created is not conservative.
Conservatism is about truth and liberty. All of that 60s race legislation while waxing about liberty did far more damage than good and there is a reason the conservative Holy Trinity of the day..Magnus, Buck and Goldwater opposed it all.
Savage is Jewish you say? Shucks..so is Levin. Who cares? Would that more Jews followed their lead.
I could care less what Hannity did for a living? Why bring that up...that makes as much difference as you bringing up Savage's Jewishness.
I agree with Rush and Levin more than anyone including Savage. But I diverge with them over this issue as I assume I do with you as well.
The dirty secret no one dare utter is that most Southern Democrats were more conservative than Northeastern GOP...that is what the Buckley-Goldwater-Reagan(and others) upheaval in the GOP was all about and to diminish the power of the liberals like Rockefeller and so forth.
How did they do this...ultimately with Reagan, John Tower and Trent Lott and the Southern Strategy. And it worked. White Mississippians now vote 90% GOP in national elections. LQC Lamar woulda never believed that would happen after the dark days of Depression. White southerners left the ever more progressive Democrats..a turn of events that NeoYankees and folks PC over race have a hard time accepting..even here and especially amongst pundits and writers...without white southerners, the GOP would be a perpetual minority party...and my be soon anyhow if they don't shut the borders or buck up and embrace their base.
One last preempt..since I figure your next arrow in your quiver will be New Deal talk and southern Dems...Dems in the South were split...much like Civil Rights it took GOP crossovers to get it done. Here in TN, most of the Congressional Democrats..Crump folks...voted against FDR stuff time and again except notably a young Estes Kefauver of Mafia grandstanding fame who later supported early racial redress legislation...no surprise there huh?....populism ala FDR and Kingfish had no lock all over Dixie like revisionists enjoy portraying.
It is simply disingenuous for some conservative notables to parse this history like they do...Dems always libs, GOP always conservative and righteous which usually translates..”South bad, North and West good”...our political history much like life in general is much more complicated.
The other day I was reading an early Reagan talk on communism and he actually attributed the origins of the Democrat party to Jefferson...now this is how I was taught too but can you imagine that now from our conservative pundits..they like to write the Dems from whole cloth ala Jackson...the first POTUS they really hate ..
Snerdly is black...I doubt even I in these heated times over anything not white would go on and on how excessive or unnecessary that the 60s race legislation was given he is right in front of him..and Rush having been bit by the black bug so many times is perhaps wary anyhow...anything he utters about blacks is reported everywhere in seconds and mis quoted or out of context.
Perhaps he could say...Why didn't we just enforce the Constitution? All that legislation didn't create freedom it created a mess of dependence, victimhood, Balkanization and an extortion industry sanctioned by various government agencies and hurt blacks far more than helped them especially in family cohesiveness but one could argue that different. The white family has collapsed too and we never got any of that. What killed segregation and discrimination for the most part nationwide is whites gave up and have been browbeaten to submit and have enormous guilt and shame to even utter a defense of racial separation regardless of any empirical or anecdotal proof things were better before in any aspect.
I was around then...nothing is better today except medical care, fancy ballistics and automobile handling...and universal AC...I actually lived in Mississippi as a lad for the first 15 years of my life with no AC...an attic fan..imagine that...and I am quite obviously 100% southern peckerwood and my family extended and otherwise always eschewed handouts and my dad and granddad were GOP from Truman onwards...just for reference as well as not being favorable to FDR though dad was too young Good day.
Al Sharpton is Sean Hannity’s “good friend”.
Why don’t you go and sue him. *rme*
You:Because he was a Republican.
LOL! Oh.
You: A western Republican who had more in common with the conservative southern Democrats of the 1960s than he did with the liberal eastern establishment Republicans who dominated the GOP and who worked actively to defeat him.
If he had more in common with the Conservative southern DemocRATS than he did with the Liberal eastern Establishment Republicans, why was he a Republican at all? Who was the Southern Conservative dominated RAT candidate in 1964? If memory serves it was a Conservative (by your logic) Southerner named Lyndon Baines Johnson. The man who gave us The Great Society, The War On Poverty, and other government-expanding programs that have only served to shackle blacks in dependency and substandard living conditions for decades.
Further, if the Eastern Establishment Republicans dominated the GOP, how did he become the Republican nominee for President?
Your argument simply makes no sense.
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