Posted on 10/14/2011 7:15:24 AM PDT by Pelham
Edited on 10/14/2011 8:14:16 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Newt Gingrich called for a middle path on immigration reform
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Third world population numbers are represented by gumballs - and our numbers too. It proves there is NO compromise - we can’t take in the world.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265
They first come for the job, and then never want to go back to the hell hole they came from. Having a kid that qualifies for the dream act is their ticket to stay forever.
It starts chain immigration and is the same as blanket amnesty. I understand the plight of these kids that grew up here, but the parents must be punished for putting the kid in this fustercluck in the first place.
This is so simple to address. We just say that our law will be the same standard that Mexico applies to people who come into THEIR country ILLEGALLY from THEIR southern border. It is apparently a standard that Mexico and Mexicans think is a fair one, so we could use it as well.
Unfortunately the people bringing this disaster down on this country are not swayed by logic. They are suicidal and are intent on taking us all down with them.
The easiest argument to make when the apologists whip out the “parents gotta stay with the kids” thing is as follows...
When an American parent commits a crime, do we not punish them with jail time because of the negative effect on the child/family? So how is this different? It’s only different in that the parent can choose to take the child with them to Mexico and remain a family unit. We do not forgive the crimes because of family issues of American citizens so forgiving the crimes of illegal aliens devalues what it is to BE a citizen.
And I defy any apologist to find fault with the above.
“Anyone who attempted anything close to “Operation Wetback” would be slammed with so many lawsuits and court actions that it would paralyze our entire government and with the judges and justices we have sitting in our courts, a large percentage of those actions would be affirmed.”
I’m very familiar with the Just-Give-Up school of thought.
It’s an old standard for Michael Medved who can usually be counted on to tip off what the GOP establishment is thinking.
Medved would first insist that illegal immigration is too insignificant to be a problem, and then immediately follow up with the argument that it is too big of a problem to ever be addressed by deportation and border control.
Just Give Up. The advice of Wormtongue in Lord of the Rings.
“As for your “smearing” comment; no such thing. “
Sure you did. You compared a border fence to the Berlin Wall.
It’s a comparison routinely employed by opponents of border control. It must be on page one of the handbook, right next to equating mass deportation with the cattle cars employed by Nazi Germany.
First the burden of proof should be on you to show where they have supported amnesty. It is well known that Palin, Christie, Gingrich, Huntsman, and Perry are amnesty supporters. I define amnesty as
In the context of immigration, amnesty is commonly defined as granting legal status to a group of individuals unlawfully present in a country. It overlooks the alien's illegal entry and ongoing illegal presence and creates a new legal status that allows the recipient to live and work in the country.
They need to understand that once there’s enough of them here, WE BECOME a hellhole like the one they left. If they want a better life for their children they need to reform the places they live - NOT come here and overwhelm, and change us...
What candidate has stated that they will throw out all illegal aliens? Not just rhetoric.... what candidate has an actual plan to deport all illegals? If there is a candidate in this race with such a plan, I will give them a second look. Otherwise..... Newt Gingrich is still by far the best candidate we have.
If that doesn't happen, this country is finished. We have an opportunity to do just that in 2012.
Do a poll, look at any poll and see where illegal immigration falls on the list of priorities of the electorate. Guaranteed it will be 4th or 5th on the list. After the economy, after jobs, after education--and depending on international events--after national defense.<
Immigration, legal and illegal, has had and will continue to have a major and far-reaching impact across a broad spectrum of existential challenges that confront this nation, e.g., national security, the economy/global competitiveness, jobs, health care, taxes, energy independence, education, entitlement reform, law enforcement, social welfare programs, physical infrastructure, the environment, civil liberties, and a continued sense of national identity/shared sense of endeavor. Immigration is the defining issue of our time with enormous implications for the future of this nation and the preservation of our patrimony. Yet, seldom will you hear immigration mentioned by our political and intellectual elites in connection with solutions to these challenges.
The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.
Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any major developed country in the world, i.e., 0.963% (2011 estimate), principally due to immigration.
Jobs and Wages – The latest data show 22.1 million immigrants holding jobs in the U.S. with an estimated 8 million being illegal aliens. By increasing the supply of labor between 1980 and 2000, immigration reduced the average annual earnings of native-born men by an estimated $1,700 or roughly 4 percent. Among natives without a high school education, who roughly correspond to the poorest tenth of the workforce, the estimated impact was even larger, reducing their wages by 7.4 percent. The reduction in earnings occurs regardless of whether the immigrants are legal or illegal, permanent or temporary. It is the presence of additional workers that reduces wages, not their legal status.
The Bureau of Labor statistics for September 2011 show a national unemployment rate of 9.1 percent, including 16 percent for blacks and 11.3 percent for Hispanics. 22 million Americans are seeking full-time employment. Despite the economic downturn, the U.S. continues to bring in 125,000 new, legal foreign workers a month. This includes new permanent residents (Green Cards) and long-term temporary visas and others who are authorized to take a job. This makes no sense.
Education – Immigration accounts for virtually all of the national increase in public school enrollment over the last two decades. In 2007, there were 10.8 million school-age children from immigrant families in the U.S. Although immigrants account for 13 percent of the population, they comprise 21 percent of the school age population. With 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies being born each year, we are bankrupting our schools with the additional costs of ESOL, subsidized meals, etc. and hurting the quality of education. CA is a good example of what happens to the quality and costs of education when you are overrun with immigrants, legal and illegal.
National security The two main threats to our national security posed by immigration relate to terrorism and drugs. First, tens of thousands of persons from countries that support international terrorism have come across our southern border undetected since 9/11. Testifying before Congress in March 2006, FBI Director Robert Mueller said that his agency busted a smuggling ring organized by the terrorist group Hezbollah that had operatives cross the Mexican border to carry out possible terrorist attacks inside the U.S. “This was an occasion in which Hezbollah operatives were assisting others with some association with Hezbollah in coming to the United States,” Mueller told a House Appropriations subcommittee during a hearing on the FBI's budget.
Hezbollah was responsible for the October 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, which killed 243 U.S. troops. A total of 20 foreign-born terrorists were involved in 9/11, 19 of whom took part in the attack that resulted in nearly 3,000 deaths. The terrorists had entered the country on tourist or student visas. Four of them, however, had overstayed their visas and become illegal aliens and the others should not have been granted visas for various immigration control reasons.
Second, Michael Hayden, the outgoing head of the CIA stated in January 2009 that the threat of a narco state in Mexico is one of the gravest dangers to American security, on a par with a nuclear-armed Iran. An assessment by the United States Joint Forces Command, published in February 2009, concluded that the two countries most at risk of becoming failed states were Pakistan and Mexico. The descent of Mexico into a failed narco state, marked by increased violence and brutality, which has already spilled over into the U.S., has enormous implications for immigration, legal and illegal.
With over 13 million Mexican-born residents in the U.S. plus their U.S.-born relatives, there are strong familial ties to Mexico, which would attract Mexicans fleeing a disintegrating state seeking asylum and safety in the U.S. And the pressure on our porous, unsecured southern border would increase dramatically. Currently, the Border Patrol apprehends more than half a million people annually trying to enter the U.S. illegally from Mexico and hundreds of thousands more illegal aliens are successful in gaining entry. There is no way the U.S. could stop a tidal wave of Mexicans seeking asylum in this country and it would be even more difficult to remove them.
There has been a confluence of interests between drugs, illegal immigration, and terrorism. The systems for moving terrorists illegally across the border have become increasingly sophisticated, with Mexican drug kingpins now playing a major facilitating role using the same routes and methods to bring in illegal aliens and drugs. In view of the carnage that the 19 terrorists created on 9/11, the virtual certainty that our government has allowed substantial numbers of terrorists and their supporters to enter our country illegally is an outrage.
We've been making the same arguments and fighting the same battle for 4 decades, and the problem is worse today than it ever has been. You think you are going to reverse that? I have seen absolutely no evidence of that. Maybe it will happen, but I doubt it. The American people don't have the stomach for it.
If we don't reverse it, we are finished as a nation. 87 percent of the 1.2 million legal immigrants entering annually are minorities as defined by the U.S. Government and almost all of the illegal aliens are minorities. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under in the U.S. will be classified as minorities and by 2039, half of the residents of this country will be minorities. Generally, immigrants and minorities vote predominantly for the Democrat Party. Hence, Democrats view immigration as a never-ending source of voters that will make them the permanent majority party.
Since the 1965 Immigration Act, our pro-population growth immigration policies have fueled major demographic changes in a very short period of time. In 1970, non-Hispanic whites comprised 89 percent of the population; today they are 66 percent; and by 2039, they will be 50 percent. The Democrats, under the banner of multiculturalism and diversity, have forged a political coalition that depends on individuals coalescing around racial and ethnic identities rather than the issues. The continuing and increasing flow of minority immigrants, mostly poor and uneducated, provide a natural constituency for the Democrats, which see them as their principal source of political power. The Democrats are well on their way to becoming the permanent majority party. Demography is destiny.
Frankly, it appears to me, and IMHO only, that Perry's response to the Mexicanization of Texas, and eventually the US, is one of cheerful acceptance. After all, any fool with good arithmetic can see that if present trends continue, that by year 2200 we will be majority Latin American.
Is this a good idea? .
Great post...perfect...i will use that
At the rate we’re going, if nothing is done to stop it, whomever is left in North America by 2200 will be living in caves.
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Kind of like another RINO we trusted a few years back. That particular clown offered $50.00 /hr to anyone who'd go to AZ to pick lettuce. He didn't expect a bunch of people to take him up on his offer.
You're falling for the old progressive strawman. Either open borders or mass roundups. What about seriously enforcing the laws on the books. If someone is stopped find out his status and deport as necessary, if an employer is caught hiring an illegal, fine them into bankruptcy, no more benefits , no free education. It won't be long before you have self deportation , as proven by the fact that when a state gets serious about enforcement, illegals move out and find another lenient state. No roundups needed.
Probably pal of stinkspurv
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