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To: SeekAndFind

I make a lot less than $100K and I live in CA. From what I read Cain’s 999 plan will raise my taxes. Why would I vote for someone who would raise my taxes?


3 posted on 10/15/2011 8:47:23 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: make no mistake

Because if his plan is enacted maybe you will get to keep your job. The current system is bankrupting us all.


4 posted on 10/15/2011 8:50:33 PM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: make no mistake

RE: Why would I vote for someone who would raise my taxes?

How sure are you about that? Did you do any detailed calculations taking into account ZERO payroll taxes paid for instance?


7 posted on 10/15/2011 8:53:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: make no mistake

Why would I vote for someone who would raise my taxes?

Since you have already made up your mind, why are you asking? Would you vote for him if he lowered your taxes?


9 posted on 10/15/2011 8:57:05 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: make no mistake
Do a CLEAN SWEEP of the current IRS tax code. It is corrupt, cumbersome, antiquated and disgusting.

None of us know how much we really pay in taxes. The products and services we buy are already layered with taxes that are passed to us.

If the dem libtards have the guts to completely overhaul our medical care system, we need to have as much spunk to revamp out tax code, God willing we get the chance.

10 posted on 10/15/2011 8:59:24 PM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: make no mistake

Umm, so let me ask you, what $$$ do you pay in taxes?

You state with confidence 9-9-9 would raise your taxes.

Did you know that the plan does away with the payroll tax?

For example, if you make 50k, ( an example given by Cain), you are taxed at 9% or 4500$. Now assume, AFTER that, you spend 100% of your income, or 45,500$. 9 % of that is 4005$. (slightly less than 18%).

The bottom tax rate is > 18%.

So I guess the only complainers are the people who are killing this country (in other words they get back MORE in refunds than they pay in taxes).

Time for you to grow up and pay your taxes. I pay the top rate. Right now 51% are net “suckers” and 49% are contributors.

Why should you vote to raise your taxes? Because if we took 100% of the net worth of EVERY millionare int the US, it would raise < 300 Billion. And Kill our economy. We would be a third world country.

IF you live in the US, you OUGHT to pay taxes, not be a ward of the state, unless you have a REASON you cannot contribute to the system.

Quite being a sucker.


12 posted on 10/15/2011 9:08:26 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: make no mistake
I make a lot less than $100K and I live in CA. From what I read Cain’s 999 plan will raise my taxes.

I wonder whether you are miscalculating the effect of his plan on you. If you work for wages you already pay 15.3% payroll tax on every penny you earn plus income taxes on top of that. The 999 plan would have you paying 9% on what you earn plus 9% on some purchases. For me I think I'll end up paying less.

14 posted on 10/15/2011 9:15:52 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: make no mistake

You think your taxes aren’t going to go up under the present tax code?


19 posted on 10/15/2011 9:20:23 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: make no mistake; Conservative Actuary; BfloGuy; FredZarguna; Recovering_Democrat; Jet Jaguar; ...
Why would I vote for someone who would raise my taxes?

I can't see where you would assume any such thing. For one thing, in the U.S. the corporate tax rate is a whopping 35%, the 2nd highest in the industrialized world, and one of the reasons the economy isn't booming enough to afford you constant pay raises. Cut that to 9% (a 72% reduction!) and THAT ENORMOUS TAX BURDEN IS TAKEN OUT OF THE RETAIL PRICES YOU PAY FOR STUFF (you know those business taxes are always passed along to the consumer, don't you?). If that meant that things you buy now have a base price 13% to 18% less than before, are you going to bitch about paying an extra 9% sales tax after that price reduction?

33 posted on 10/15/2011 10:07:56 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("There is no better anti-poverty program anywhere than capitalism." -- Neal Boortz)
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To: make no mistake; SeekAndFind; FreeKeys; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; ...
RE “I make a lot less than $100K and I live in CA. From what I read Cain’s 999 plan will raise my taxes. Why would I vote for someone who would raise my taxes

Maybe there is more to life than your short term gain.

I didnt get a tax credit from the Bush-Pelosi stimulus that mostly went to the 47% that pay NO federal income taxes. I also was punished with the Obama/Pelosi ‘Making Work Pay’ tax credit for working full time which mainly went to that 47% , I am one of the 53% that has to pay those taxes. There is a target on my head,

"We Are the 53%" website

It's called a flat tax.

36 posted on 10/15/2011 10:28:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: make no mistake

Why should I (or anyone) vote for La Raza Rick?


40 posted on 10/16/2011 12:06:44 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: make no mistake

I think in the end your actually paying less if your paying a federal tax on wages.

Not to mention all the other taxes that would be gone if this was implemented.

Face it, something has to be done. One way or another, the current system is broken beyond repair. At least Cain has run a business knows what it is to work and what it is to shell out taxes.

Not to mention that this is not the only thing the guy has going for him.

At this point, though I do like others as well. I think Cain is the only viable candidate. We aren’t going to get someone that we agree with 100%, but he is darn close IMO.


42 posted on 10/16/2011 1:59:28 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: make no mistake

Mine would see a little increase as well which would not stop me from voting for him. My biggest concern is that the removal of interest deductions will collapse the real estate market even further than it has been collapsed. This, in turn, means construction remains dead and thereby the economy as a whole (because construction is such a large component) remains dead. The other positive portions of his plan will not be able to overcome this killer.


81 posted on 10/26/2011 12:23:56 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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