Posted on 10/18/2011 8:06:37 PM PDT by Kevmo
Maybe I’m wrong about you. I just went to this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2794833/posts?q=1&;page=1
And I see a bunch of cheer-leading for this Rossi guy yet what has he done? Someone mentioned that he’s used other scams in the past, does anyone know what they were?
Someone also mentioned that Rossi has a degree from a diploma mill, is that true?
I still don’t believe the Ecat works at all. Why does it take four hours to heat up? Why does it need preheating at all? What is the supposed theory behind its operation?
The device I saw looked like it was built inside a shipping container. What didn’t make sense is that if this thing is putting out so much heat, why is he able to use PVC pipe to send the steam to whatever generating device he chooses; I assume he plans on hooking this thing up to a steam turbine. If I’m wrong, someone please point it out. How does a PVC pipe withstand the pressure and temperature of steam?
I am using logic, you don’t have to look at this that deeply to know it is a fraud.
Arrogance is bred by the absurdity of this man.
Like a man who just came out of a insane asylum, convicted multiple times of defrauding people, says he can make unlimited electricity from the air.....instead of ignoring on his past history alone ... we have people in this thread who would bother to ask him how.
I see poster after poster fall for this...it is like a mental disease spreading .... it is the same affect you see in the crowd at a 3 card monte con but on the Internet.
all true, all good points
Rossi got his diploma from a California Diploma Mill that was shut down and the Atty General of the state sent the Dean to jail.
This same diploma is the one that Rossi referenced earlier in this scam but has since stopped talking about it.
We even have pictures of apartment building in Mimi Florida and his Partners in NH.
Even done real estate searches to determine if Rossi even had a factory in the US as he claims ... nope , nothing
Even looked for this new distributor/partner, the website was just put up in January, the domain name purchased for 2.95 in December of last year.
Like I said, you don’t have to plunge into scientific thinking to know this is a fraud. Just look at the landscape of this.
My favorite two lines from the article:
It sounds, and most likely is, too good to be true.
This can’t be serious.
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my favorite was this:
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(as a consequence, Rossi would become the wealthiest man in the world, assuming that all of the vested interests in the existing oil and power economies didn’t have him bumped off).
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it fits exactly what i said in Kevmo’s last “cheerleading” effort,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794833/posts?page=68#68
about the lack of ANY interest by big companies like GE, or world goverments - especially in the third world, that this would be a miracle for.
= = =
...and when Kevmo starts writing to Mods about “stalking”, when he is defending a con man???
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794833/posts?page=62#62
i’ve never seen a real conservative on FR do that before.
...it is just pathetic.
because Moonman and others, have asked legitimate questions, about a man with a con-man past.
calling him a “stalker” doesn’t make me believe him or Rossi any more.
(even moreso than Rossi’s “self destruct” device he is forced to put in his equipment... to protect a “secret” that Rossi himself admits he can’t explain, and which no major company or goverment is interested in...)
This bet is about the October 28 demo that Rossi is planning.
It’s okay if you haven’t heard of it, and have no idea about it. You would decide if the demo does what it claims. Rossi says he can produce 1MW. The output is only heat, not electricity. So you would decide if his demo generates 1MW of heat. There have been lots of folks looking at the contraption and they’ve found no hidden wires or pipes or batteries. If they do, then obviously Rossi is a fraud and I would lose the bet.
Here’s the URL where I issued the challenge.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2780851/posts
We would all need to come to terms, which is an interesting discussion because based upon all the invective I would think these guys would offer 10:1 odds, they’re so certain. Anyways, have a look and let us know if you’re interested. I have been pushing for a little extra tip to go to whichever freeper steps up to decide. It’s not much but it’ll buy you a good six pack of beer.
I’ll bet.
***Then you can collect my money if you’re right.
what will also interest you is Google and the key bump phrase in the article/blog. When one story is posted another bunch of similar stories are all posted at the same time.
That is how you know it is a orchestrated effort.
If I could get the data from Google, I bet this has been going on for the last 3 years or more. Would be a fantastic chart on how to manipulate people.
I am wrong, you’re correct, it does say, “NRO’s domestic-policy blog”.
Nevertheless, this is newsworthy
***One of those cases where we’re both right.
scientifically - the following statement is as much as can be supported by fact/evidence/observation.
A device of unknown construction and function produced heat and liquid effluent when fed with a clear liquid at near room temperature. The device required electrical input at the beginning of the heat production period.
no it’s not, if you want to post it in news you need to go to the blog’s source and post the original news article.
Otherwise, there is a blog category for your use on FreeRepublic for posting blogs.
there’s that little bit where the preheated it for what, four hours before the test?
***I think that was conjured in dilataunt’s mind.
And still they didn’t run it as long as they’d advertized.
***Yup. Rossi is an aggravating soul.
My opinion, based on science is that it will not work and he will join Joseph Newman on the slag heap of the history free energy.
***It is a big slap heap, that’s for sure. But the data here is strong enough to convince the swedish skeptics society, and Dr. Levi who was a skeptic. Given Rossi’s questionable history, anyone who is invited to take a look at the device is well motivated to find evidence of fraud. No evidence so far.
Maybe I’m wrong about you. I just went to this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2794833/posts?q=1&;page=1
***Did you read post #14? The guy you were posting to has been proven wrong.
You got the concept right, you can only deal with what you really know.
There was a guy putting on a presentation with a scam one time and he got so angry with me as if I killed his only child when I wouldn’t stop directing the crowd to the cause of his miraculous contraction. These guys show up at fairs etc all the time.
And I see a bunch of cheer-leading for this Rossi guy yet what has he done?
***Here’s as good enough a place to start as any.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Andrea_A._Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Generator
You could just read the titles of the articles under the keyword cold fusion here on FR and that would give you an idea.
I still don’t believe the Ecat works at all.
***Then explain the results.
Why does it take four hours to heat up?
***The guy you posted to made up that little tidbit.
Why does it need preheating at all?
***Like an engine, it needs to get started.
What is the supposed theory behind its operation?
***LENR theories abound
http://www.lenr-canr.org/FilesByDate.htm
The device I saw looked like it was built inside a shipping container. What didn’t make sense is that if this thing is putting out so much heat, why is he able to use PVC pipe to send the steam to whatever generating device he chooses;
***It isn’t superheated steam, it’s just 100degree Celsius steam.
I assume he plans on hooking this thing up to a steam turbine. If I’m wrong, someone please point it out.
***He does not plan to hook up this demo plant to a steam turbine.
How does a PVC pipe withstand the pressure and temperature of steam?
***I don’t think there’s a lot of pressure and the temperature is only 100C, so it isn’t a big deal.
convicted multiple times of defrauding people,
***I think that part is basically a lie. Wonder Warthog seems to have done the homework on this.
the question was....what has he done.
The answer is ...
1. spawn lots of fake news sites
2. spawn a fake science journal
3. get a fake degree
4. rip of the Department of the Army
5. rip off Italy and create an environmental disaster
6. create fake companies
7. create fake factories
8. burn down his lab to hide evidence
9. get in a pissing match with his so called partner where they both called each other liars (when both of them are)
....
there is so much more
You obviously didn’t read this reply:
“Like a man who just came out of a insane asylum, convicted multiple times of defrauding people, says he can make unlimited electricity from the air.....instead of ignoring on his past history alone ... we have people in this thread who would bother to ask him how.”
it was a hypothetical
...and when Kevmo starts writing to Mods about “stalking”, when he is defending a con man???
***I did not start. The Truth guy did. It says so right in the post you linked to:
Here’s a possible set of instances of stalking, as presented by someone other than myself and my moonman stalker.
If it is so all-fired easy to come to the conclusion that this is a fraud, then why is it that none of you seagulls post on this thread?
How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real (or Fake)
LENR.QUMBO.com ^ | April 6, 2011 | Alan Fletcher
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:52:15 PM by Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2730401/posts
The answer lies in your own character. You guys are lazy, quick to conclude in absence of evidence, and basically have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes down to the nuts & bolts. So you prefer to stay high, make a lot of noise, and like seagulls, do your “business” from above.
about the lack of ANY interest by big companies like GE, or world goverments -
***Let’s see, there’s the head scientist at Langley and then there’s the Secretary of Energy Chu, just to name 2 of the latest to express interest.
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