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Rick Perry's Support for a Flat Tax Cheers Steve Forbes (Forbes, Gramm advising Perry)
WSJ ^ | Oct 19, 2011 | John D. McKinnon

Posted on 10/19/2011 7:22:00 PM PDT by Clairity

Rick Perry's embrace of a flat tax makes the tough-talking Texas governor the unlikely political heir to Steve Forbes, the nerdy publisher and erstwhile presidential candidate.

Mr. Forbes, who ran in 1996 and 2000 and now is advising the Perry camp, said that the "concept remains the same" as his own flat tax plan from the 1990s.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: flattax; forbes; heartless; perry; perryastroturfing; perrybot; taxes
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I understand they are different but they are not that different. Perry is trying to so-opt this position since it worked so well for Cain. It’s obvious what he is trying to do here.


21 posted on 10/19/2011 7:50:11 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: CSI007

Maybe you should read the article and learn something, or at read the excerpt posted:

“Mr. Forbes, who ran in 1996 and 2000 and now is advising the Perry camp, said that the “concept remains the same” as his own flat tax plan from the 1990s.”


22 posted on 10/19/2011 7:50:43 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: CSI007

Perry is scary...free tuition for illegals and he backed Al Gore...has he really done a 380?


23 posted on 10/19/2011 7:51:26 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: jgge

So you’re okay with Perry entering the race unprepared? It would certainly explain a lot about Perry.


24 posted on 10/19/2011 7:52:14 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Clairity

I have learned something. Perry is a fraud. An establishment republican/life long politician in a conservatives clothes if you will.


25 posted on 10/19/2011 7:53:23 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Minus_The_Bear

A flat income tax is better than 9 9 9 because 9 9 9 gives Democrat lib/commies/socialists a new toy, a national sales tax to jack up the way they do in Europe with the VAT tax


26 posted on 10/19/2011 7:53:53 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: Clairity

Perry’s comng back, lookout Mitt!


27 posted on 10/19/2011 7:55:17 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: sargon
Are we talking about a flat tax that is an income tax? Some sort of ostensible non-progressive form? If so, then no thanks!

He hasn't even come out with the plan yet. How about not jumping to conclusions. Patience is a virtue :-)

28 posted on 10/19/2011 7:55:49 PM PDT by Texan
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To: jgge

You are absolutely correct. In addition these are not “real” debates.


29 posted on 10/19/2011 7:56:20 PM PDT by ImpBill (196th Light Infantry Brigade - DaNang PhuBai/Hue - Little "r" republican!)
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To: katiedidit1

I wonder if we will have to wait a few days after the next debate for Perry to release his next stolen plan.

We had to wait for his energy plan which he basically ripped outta Sarah’s playbook.

And then we had to wait til after this debate for him to bastardize Cain’s tax plan and call it his own.

This guy has no shame.


30 posted on 10/19/2011 7:56:33 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: CSI007

No the problem was that 9-9-9 was a hastily thrown together plan that Cain never even could defend or explain himself. This is a long primary.’spring is when we get out candidate not Oct. Because a salesman throws out a bad tax plan and nothing else. This is not just a personality contest.


31 posted on 10/19/2011 7:58:07 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: dennisw

You people are delusional.

Any tax can be altered to suit the party in charge. If this flat tax “idea” of Perry’s and I use the word idea very loosely here since he is trying to take credit for someone elses idea. We are going to likely get a flat tax around 18% or more on income. When the dems want to raise it they will with little fanfare.

Cains tax plan is not a VAT and will never be a VAT.

VATs are cumulative. Cains 9-9-9 is not a cumulative tax.


32 posted on 10/19/2011 8:00:30 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: CSI007

Perry did not steal Cain’s plan. That is lame. If Perry stole Cain’s plan then Cain stole Forbes’s plan and Forbes is advising Perry


33 posted on 10/19/2011 8:00:43 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: katiedidit1
...free tuition for illegals

No matter what the facts are, no matter how many times it's been said, some people just refuse to acknowledge the truth that in-state tuition for illegals is not FREE tuition. But then they'd have to use something else to bash Perry with. You're not convincing anybody and are wasting our time and yours.

Why not pick one of the legitimate bashing points. Every one of the candidates have some.

34 posted on 10/19/2011 8:06:29 PM PDT by Texan
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To: CSI007

The European VAT is close enough to a national sales tax. No way do I want either in the IRS Federales tool kit

And with all the state sales taxes....you add a Federale sales tax making sales taxes 15-20% and you will have widespread cheating. You will have to hire tens of thousands of new IRS Federales to enforce it

State sales taxes are widely cheated on and states have a hundred’s of thousands of tax agents trying to collect them


35 posted on 10/19/2011 8:07:03 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: normy

Your missing the point. Perry is trying to morph now and use Cains premise for tax reform to get votes.

Perry’s campaign is in shambles and he is doing what any establishment politician would do - morph into something else that might work for him. His internal polling probably shows that in general Cains tax plan is a huge success among tea party and conservative members.

Fortunately for us and the REAL conservatives of this country see through what Perry is trying to do and see him for the fraud he really is.


36 posted on 10/19/2011 8:07:15 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: dennisw

“The European VAT is close enough to a national sales tax.”

That is bull crap and is an out right falsehood.


37 posted on 10/19/2011 8:08:41 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Clairity

“Mr. Forbes’s plan was attacked by other Republican candidates.”

I don’t remember it that way. I remember Forbes was just an incredibly uncharismatic guy and while he’d hoped to get traction with that issue, got none.


38 posted on 10/19/2011 8:09:51 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: Clairity

Thanks for this post. Little kernels from the past are often found in these articles, for example:

” - - - Mr. Romney has previously been critical of a flat-tax system, including in newspaper advertisements he took out in 1996 as a “concerned citizen” in which he argued that the Forbes tax plan was a “tax cut for fat cats.”

Willy-Rom-Rom-RINO, you haven’t fooled us a bit. It is however, nice to have your thoughts recorded on your opinion of the pursuit of achieving financial independence in America.

BTW, aren’t you a “Fat Cat” now? Does this mean that you do not like yourself, or just the American Dream of financial independence?


39 posted on 10/19/2011 8:11:36 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: Clairity

Any new tax system must require contribution from all, even if it is miniscule.

Quoting the real One, “Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

It is imperative that all Americans feel invested in the government and ownership of its actions. Otherwise, as now, those who do not contribute will just demand more and more from those who do.

It’s a whole ‘nuther ballgame when government is spending YOUR money and when more programs mean more from you.


40 posted on 10/19/2011 8:12:57 PM PDT by Jedidah
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