[Red Badger]

This figure shows a mastodon rib with the embedded bone projectile point. (A) Closeup view. (B) Reconstruction showing the bone point with the broken tip. The thin layer represents the exterior of the rib. (C) CT X-ray showing the long shaft of the point from the exterior to the interior of the rib. (D) The entire rib fragment with the embedded bone projectile point. Credit: University of Copenhagen

This figure shows the anatomical position of the Manis rib. (A) Two vertebrae with the Manis rib inserted into its correct anatomical position. The blue arrow points to the embedded point fragment. (B) Side view of mastodon vertebrae with the Manis rib inserted into its correct anatomical position, with the trajectory of the point indicated. (C) Mastodon skeleton showing the location of ribs 12 to 14. Credit: University of Copenhagen

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[Red Badger]

GGG PING!..........

[eastforker]

Boy are they really gonna be confused when they find one with a lead bullet or a lazer burn!

[FritzG]

It's their cover story for Nov. I'm not a subscriber, but here is some articles from them.

The First Americans: Mounting Evidence Prompts Researchers to Reconsider the Peopling of the New World

On the Trail of the First Americans [Interactive]

These dates still don't go back far enough. Topper and others like it will rewrite everything.

[Buckeye McFrog]

It took one helluva man to run up and kill a mastodon with a rock.

I don’t suppose the University of North Dakota would be allowed to rename its hockey team after these guys?

[moovova]

Oh geez...here’s another group that’s gonna want reparations because of the atrocites brought on by those evil-white-European-criminal-invaders.

[calex59]

These clowns keep missing the vital point when it comes to extinction of the animals after all the glaciers disappeared. What killed them off was lack of water, once the glaciers melted the water rapidly evaporated with no way to replenish the supply. Since there wasn't enough water to supply all the animals, large numbers died out.

They quit having offspring because with the water, went the feed. This can be seen among the deer of today. If any given year is dry and the food supply low, deer will NOT have twins, and in many cases will not have fawns at all. In years when the food supply is plentiful, deer will have twin fawns. This is a well documented fact. A fact that scientists hate to mention when they are talking about extinction because they want to put the blame on man.

Evil man killed all the animals. There is no way a bunch of cave men using either bone points or flint points and using only spears, killed off any species to the point they became extinct. Nor did they kill enough of them to "aid in the extinction".

If men killed all the animals, why was there so much game in North America(not to mention south of the border)when the white men first showed up. Millions of buffalo, while they are fairly large they are nothing compared to Mammoths and Mastodons, so why were they still around? Not to mention, deer, Elk, Moose, Antelope, Bears(grizzly and black bear), wolves etc. Answer: Because primitive man, including Indians, couldn't kill them fast enough to wipe them out, even by running them over cliffs.

Once the herds had dwindled to the size the food and water could support the extinctions stopped.

[PiperShade]

About the only thing regarding the early intercontental migrations of humans is our current levels of knowledge are woefully short of any “truth” ! Most accounts I’ve read delimit these tribes to “primitive technologies” ! I submit, because most of those artifacts were ephemeral, we can’t make that assumption ! >PS

[ThanhPhero]

I have always thought that Clovis being the earliest men in America was rankly silly. There it is in New Mexico. Did they just fly in there on an Airbus the month before? If they came the Bering route surely it took a while. If they came down the coast in boats surely they didn’t hop on a bus and go to New Mexico from Santa Catalina.

[pabianice]

Hunted the animals to extinction? But... but... “Native Americans” were peaceful vegetarians, living in calm harmony with nature and all living things. I’m so confused!

[GreenHornet]

"The evidence from the Manis site shows that people were hunting mastodons with bone weapons before the Clovis stone spear point."

Also, the discovery of what appears to be a mastodon hunting blind littered with ancient beer cans and potato chip bags further supports the theory that people were hunting in the area much earlier than previously believed.

[colorado tanker]

My take on the article is better late to the party than never to have gone.

[CedarDave]

Been busy so just getting caught up on NM topics.

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[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

****... that humans were in the area around 13,800 years ago, or 800 years earlier than was believed. ****

Well I wish they would make up their mind! Years ago Nat Geo had on their cover tools that were 20,000 years old found around the Crow River in Canada.

Then a few years later there was a small notice that the tools were really only 2,000 years old, a discrepency of 18,000 years.