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Steve Jobs vowed to 'destroy' Android
BBC ^ | 10/21/11

Posted on 10/21/2011 7:07:59 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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41 posted on 10/21/2011 9:11:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: wolfman23601

Xerox PARC invented the mac/windows/gui style user interface, not Jobs. Jobs lifted it from them. Gates lifted it from Jobs and PARC after it showed promise.

You cannot copyright ideas like this and and most of the concepts were prior art so (assuming the patent office was competent, which it isn’t) no coverage there.


42 posted on 10/21/2011 9:25:38 AM PDT by Rifleman
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My Android is still working fine... Jobs... not so much.

LLS


43 posted on 10/21/2011 9:55:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: ken21
list the pluses of your droidx over iphone, please.

Nope.
Never claimed it was better/faster/more capable.
Never used an iPhone - wouldn't know - but I know this:

I like my DroidX.

44 posted on 10/21/2011 10:05:32 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: SunTzuWu

Cleared my cache fairly often, but I do have lots of apps running.


45 posted on 10/21/2011 10:18:45 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Guess that’s one item on his bucket list he didn’t quite get to. :-)


46 posted on 10/21/2011 10:32:19 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ..
Steve Jobs vowed to destroy Android! —PING!


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47 posted on 10/21/2011 2:05:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That’s some crazyass sheeet. The cancer was warping his mind. Also loony toon hyper-competitiveness for greater glory....this just might give you cancer


48 posted on 10/21/2011 2:23:43 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Apple is the darling of CNBC and Wall Street. All this adulation went to his (Steve Jobs) head


49 posted on 10/21/2011 2:25:01 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: Carry_Okie
Would that be anything like swiping the Mac GUI from PARC Meester Jobs???

No, because Apple PAID Xerox $7,000,000 for the visits to just look AND USE what the learned in their two eight hour visits at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center. Apple took NO CODE, NO SOFTWARE, and the look and operation of Apple Finder is completely different than Xerox smallTalk. A CEO of Xerox several years after the fact, who was not involved, attempted to sue Apple for the "infringement, but the case was tossed out when Apple presented the signed agreement. QED, no "theft" or "swiping" took place.

You've been told this before. Yet you repeat the lie. Why?

50 posted on 10/21/2011 2:25:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Star Trek: Voyager (TV Series 1995–2001) - IMDb

Those last two “data pads” are from the above series so are not earlier than 1995


51 posted on 10/21/2011 2:28:39 PM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: Sicon
Didn't Jobs get the idea for the mouse from some government or military computer system he saw, among other

Apple licensed the mouse from the Stanford Research Institute (SRI), whose Dr. Douglas Englelbart is the inventor, paying for an unlimited license. Apple did not steal it. They then patented their one button design among others.

52 posted on 10/21/2011 2:34:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: globelamp
Apple offered stock options to Xerox in return for getting access to the PARC research.

Not stock options. Apple gave Xerox one million shares of pre-IPO Apple common stock worth $7 per share. They gave them an interest in the company! Xerox became an owner of Apple! They sold those shares after the IPO for about $16 million.

53 posted on 10/21/2011 2:39:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: globelamp
Apple offered stock options to Xerox in return for getting access to the PARC research.

Not stock options. Apple gave Xerox one million shares of pre-IPO Apple common stock worth $7 per share. They gave them an interest in the company! Xerox became an owner of Apple! They sold those shares after the IPO for about $16 million.

54 posted on 10/21/2011 2:41:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Apple offered stock options to Xerox in return for getting access to the PARC research.

And Xerox did not accept that deal. Whose private property was that GUI?

And now you are outright telling an outrageous lie!

55 posted on 10/21/2011 3:16:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: grobdriver
You can have my DroidX when you take it from my cold, dead fingers!

When my BB died after 7 years I bought a Droid. I can't wait to dump it and get another BB. In terms of email delivery BB is far superior, especially in areas where signals are spotty, emails still get through eventually, receive and send.

56 posted on 10/21/2011 3:25:53 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Rifleman
Xerox PARC invented the mac/windows/gui style user interface, not Jobs. Jobs lifted it from them. Gates lifted it from Jobs and PARC after it showed promise.

Both Apple and Xerox were working on GUIs simultaneously. Apple had hired an ex-professor from California State University San Diego who had done pioneering work in windowing and mouse driven GUIs. He had given several lectures at PARC before going to work at Apple that had sparked their interest in GUIs and he was now the head of Apple's GUI and Mac project. Perhaps you've heard of him? His name is Jef Raskin. HE was later miffed that Jobs took over his Mac project... But later came to realize the genius that Jobs brought to the project through simplification. It was Jef Raskin who is the real father of the GUI at both Apple and PARC... and HE suggested that Jobs visit PARC to see what they were doing and put Jobs in contact with Xerox management to negotiate a deal to visit AND USE WHAT THEY SAW on the visits and it was Jobs and Raskin who went on the first eight hour visit. They lifted NOTHING! In fact, Raskin made suggestions to the PARC engineers on their visit for improvements on their work! In many ways it was a two way street.

On the other hand, Gates did sign an NDA, and violated it in many ways... But the Sugar-water salesman who was CEO of Apple had little tech understanding an wrote a very poor contract with Microsoft and the the judge in the case was a Luddite with even less understanding of software copyrights. . . who ruled that a limited license for Windows 1, was an unlimited license for all subsequent versions of Windows dispite explicit limiting language. He said "Windows is Windows!" ignoring the complete re-write and change that took place from Windows 1 to Windows95. He found only a few similar icons such as the Trashcan were protected. Idiot.

Incidentally, Microsoft did lose a MAJOR patent and software copyright infringement case to Apple in 1997... It cost the more than $150,000,000! It had the potential of costing them billions, but Steve Jobs found a way to save face for them so that both companies won.

57 posted on 10/21/2011 3:45:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker
Not stock options. Apple gave Xerox one million shares of pre-IPO Apple common stock worth $7 per share. They gave them an interest in the company! Xerox became an owner of Apple! They sold those shares after the IPO for about $16 million.

I remember hearing from somebody who worked at Xerox in those days about how Xerox should have held on to that stock for a while. Anybody know what that stock would be worth now?

I know of at least two Apple stock splits, so just with those, Xerox's shares could be worth over a billion and a half dollars.
58 posted on 10/21/2011 3:54:12 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Carry_Okie

You are completely and indefensibly wrong on this subject. Apple licensed the tech from Xerox. You are spreading Microsoft FUD that is older than the world wide web itself.


59 posted on 10/21/2011 3:55:18 PM PDT by Comstock1 (You can't have Falstaff and have him thin.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

And now he’s dead! That’ll learn ‘im!


60 posted on 10/21/2011 3:57:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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