Does Qaddafi’s death make the Libyan war a success?

Hotair ^ | 10/21/2011 | Ed Morrissey

[sickoflibs]

You mean like when we got Saddam in late 2003 ?

Maybe I will wait to see how chapter 2 goes...

[tobyhill]

Actually it was Qaddafi that kept Al-Qaeda from taking over before and it's Obama who just handed Al-Qaeda the jackpot country, one with oil and weapons.

[Psalm 144]

Precisely. A big win for globalist intermeddlers and jihadists, and confirmation of NATO’s role as an assassins’ guild.

[Darksheare]

So you've decided to sit this Freepathon out, eh?

Aren't you Precious.

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[Para-Ord.45]

Obama endorsed supported and fought for the new Libyan Govt.

Said govt. forces and Obama violated numerous International and American laws combined yesterday and in the past :

1907 Hague IV Annex

1949 Geneva Conventions

18 USC § 2441

War Powers Act

Obama and the Libyan Govt. are war criminals .

[Para-Ord.45]

PS: Dear Leader stood on the White House lawn yesterday and ENDORSED torture and street executions.

BTW, he also thinks splashing water on someone`s face is torture and an abomination

[ctdonath2]

Consider:

Bush’s “regime change” in Iraq was two wars, not one.

The first was a “hyperwar” to remove Saddam from power. That took about a week, was extremely efficient and effective. Mission accomplished.

The second was filling the power vacuum. This is what took 10 years with an unsatisfying end. Installing a new leadership and supporting bureaucracy is terribly difficult, even without violent competing forces fighting to drive you out and take control.

The Obama will face the same.

Gaddafi’s end was not hard, insofar as the Obama had anything to do with his deposal.
The subsequent power vacuum now needs filling, he has no US-friendly plan for filling it, and lacking immediate and decisive action to install new leadership the country will be taken over by a new brutal theocracy if not dictatorship.

Credit where due, if any. Whatever the Obama did re: Libya, Daffy was removed. Kudos. Destruction is easy, construction is hard; walking away from creating a vacuum will not see favorable recordings in history.

[Romulus]

Does Qaddafi’s death make the Libyan war a success?

Let's wait to see how many Christian churches are burned. That's been our chief achievement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[pallis]

Maybe we should wait and ask the women who are teaching, working in government, getting educations, walking around without covering their faces. Those days are most likely over. Any non Muslims living in Libya should get out while they can.

[Roninf5-1]

For the Globalist Banksters that are going to control all of Libya's resources it's an incredible success. It will also add to the list of Middle East countries handed over to "extremist" Muslims that will menace poor, defenseless, innocent Israel. The stage is almost set for World War III. The wealth and power the Globalist Banksters will gain from that well planned enterprise will be incalculable.

[9422WMR]

“Does Qaddafi’s death make the Libyan war a success?

Let’s wait to see how many Christian churches are burned. That’s been our chief achievement in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

Better yet, let’s just wait till commercial jets start getting shot out of the sky with a few of the thousands of shoulder fired missiles that were robbed from the colonel’s arsenal.
Idiot Obama never even thought of those consequences, or maybe he did!

[Parley Baer]

“We didn’t send troops, to be sure”

I thought I saw reports of troops on the ground. Snipers, people directing bombardments and other duties.

[elpadre]

I have been told that Libya is populated by three major tribes that get along on the surface but actually have a deep, historical dislike and distrust of one another. Gadaffi was tough, ruthless but had the ability to bring them together for national goals. Can a bickering national congress do the same?? Can the Muslim Brotherhood do it??Time will tell.

[IbJensen]

With all ‘arab’ nations in revolt and after the smoke clears we’ll see that our sharia and koran clutching camel jockeys have won. We’ve lost yet again!

Goodbye Obama!

[DannyTN]

How do we define success?

• "National Interests" were protected? No. Hard to say that the overthrow of a tyrant that hadn't caused trouble in years is in the National Interests.
• Democracy promoted? Maybe. It remains to be seen whether a democracy or theocracy develops.
• Israel Protected? No. The likelihood that Israel haters will be in positions of power are much higher.
• Human Rights Projected? Probably Not. I doubt Quadafi could win any human rights medals even from the Nobel Peace prize, but the rebels may not be any more likely to protect human rights. Their first act was murdering Quadafi without a trial.

[LibLieSlayer]

It is a success for radical islam and the muzzie brotherhood... and the leftist media will push obama until he is polling in the 70% approval levels.

LLS

[Professional]

Yes it does. 3 down, a few more to go...

[TalBlack]

...” or maybe he did!”

Why might not the author of gunwalker/fast and furious come up with a plan wherein those missiles somehow make it to America, planes start falling out of the sky and various other things blow up, and martial law MUST be declared to get it all under control? Fast and furious was stupid to a degree that cannot be exceeded. What I have posited CANNOT transcend it.

[MarineDadNavyVet]

The following is excerpted from my response (to 47 previous) posts on a different thread.

“Evidently, ALL the FReepers who have responded so far know more than the two retired Army officers (with very specific channels and information) who advise Fox News and Bill O’Reilly. Last night they expressed the thought that Obama deserved some credit for the conclusion (Quadaffi’s death). They disagreed with some of the aspects of that operation, but felt, on balance, that it was the proper course for Obama to decide upon.

To me, to be so blinded by unwillingness to see anything other than what one wants to see is to ensure self-deception, wrong actions, and absolutely undesirable outcomes.

And, surely, those people who may be/are yet to be persuaded to vote for the eventual Republican candidate (without which we will not win in Nov 2012) see this kind of reflexive acrimony and shake their heads at the mindlessness.

I mean, even Hitler caused the creation of the Volkswagen, and Mussolini made the trains run on time (no small trick in Italy, then).

So, can we not maybe take a breath, think a little, and speak truth so that our words are not totally ignored, or worse, ridiculed. And acted upon—in the opposite.

My thoughts, anyway.”

I found your post—while Spartan and somewhat grudging—to be accurate and a fair summation. Thanks.