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Rick Perry's Prime Directive: Destroy Cain
Hot Air.com ^ | 5:00 pm on October 23, 2011

Posted on 10/23/2011 2:35:52 PM PDT by drewh

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To: lquist1
I don’t see any basis in fact to this story-it’s pure speculation. Not one campaign source quoted, just simply one guy’s opinion of what Perry MUST do to win.

The reality is I don’t think Perry has any intention of going after anyone except Romney. That is where his energy is and has been directed. Furthermore, there are others like Bachmann and Santorum that need to win Iowa or their campaigns are finished. Most of their energy will be directed toward beating Cain, cause he is standing in THEIR way.


While I agree the article is pure speculation since it doesn't cite any real sources, I think Perry would be dumb as hell to go after Romney.

Romney supporters are simply not going to support anybody but the most liberal of Republicans, except for the Mormons who support Romney by default.

Romney supporters should have a (D) next to their name, but they don't. Rick Perry could spend $20 million and he's not going to make much of a dent, at least not enough to catch him up in the polls.

As much as I loathe the idea, everybody not named Romney is better off beating each other up for the remaining 75% of the voters.
121 posted on 10/23/2011 5:45:02 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: drewh

Perry knows he can’t win, and he also knows that it is his own record that took him down.

Now that he is toast, he is following the GOP Elitist prime directive: stop the “outsider” from breaking the back of globalist socialist tyranny.


122 posted on 10/23/2011 5:50:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: onyx

LOL!


123 posted on 10/23/2011 6:06:40 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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124 posted on 10/23/2011 6:07:23 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: af_vet_rr

“As much as I loathe the idea, everybody not named Romney is better off beating each other up for the remaining 75% of the voters.”

Well, I don’t totally agree. I think there is some value for Perry in going after Romney, cause it does a couple things:

1. It contrasts him from pretty much everyone else in the race and shows true conservatives that he recognizes the danger of nominating an ultra-liberal like Romney. This could win him some conservative cred.

2. It helps keep Romney’s support in the 25% range. Sure, those core 25% who support Romney are mostly either Mormons, RINOS, or Indies that intend to vote in our primary, but with Fox News and so much of the conservative intelligencia in the tank for Romney, it’s helpful to remind true conservative voters exactly why Romney should be a non-starter with them. This can hopefully keep Mitt’s numbers low enough that even two conservative alternatives can emerge and not have to worry about splitting the votes and allowing that RINO phony to slither in.

Having said all that, I don’t think that should be Perry (or anyone else’s) main focus. That of course should be going after Obama and contrasting his positions with Obama. I think with Perry’s flat tax & energy exploration/jobs plan and Cain’s 9/9/9 or 9/0/9 plan, there is some good substance that can be debated. If both candidates focus on the merits of these plans and how they will bring our economy back, I think the polling results will take care of themselves. But mixed in with all of this, I think there is definitely political value in going after Romney.


125 posted on 10/23/2011 6:19:20 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: BenKenobi

Rick Perry is FINISHED.


126 posted on 10/23/2011 6:23:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

It is too early for Cain to go after Romney. First, what has to happen is that Cain has to solidify his position as the only conservative opponent of Romney.

None of the conservative branch of GOP voters are likely to break for Romney.

Conclusion: Bachmann & Santorum need to drop out being so far behind. Then Cain needs to peel away most of Perry’s support. When Cain & Romney are the only 2 left, Romney has no chance to win.


127 posted on 10/23/2011 6:35:01 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Perry is a good man but his one on one debates with Obama keeps me awake at nights.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I am calling all you blind Cain loyalists industrial strength hypocrites. You claim Romney is undesirable but yet, Cain does NOTHING to go after Romney and you're all lathered up about Perry

Has Cain gone after any Republicans in this race? Maybe, like Newt, he's focused on Obama & not scorching Republican earth. Maybe others can learn from Herman Cain on how to promote your cause without tearing down your team.

I have to say that it's starting to get disconcerting to see concervatives lowering themselves to call other conservatives names. Like your post. Is that how Gov Perry inspires people?

128 posted on 10/23/2011 6:37:01 PM PDT by The Sparrow
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To: noprogs

Thank you so much. Let’s see, Michelle Malkin, OPINION writer. I live in Texas and am very familiar with his position on illegals. I have met him twice over the years and find him to be sincere and very conservative. We’re not hurting here, so who am I going to believe, you or my own eyes? He is not soft on illegals, like Jan Brewer he asks and asks for federal help and what he gets is woefully inadequate. We don’t like the fact that they are here, but we’re stuck with them and the Federal government forces us to pay to educate them through high school. We can gladly can send them to you and see if you can do better.

The TTC never happened. Still waiting for names and dates regarding “globalist RINO masters” and specifics of what they told him to do and what he did. I find it interesting you fault him for earning money at an age when most of us hit our peak earning years. What exactly is wrong with earning money? I’m not carrying his water, but it is getting old seeing people fling vague accusations at Perry, Cain, Bachmann, Palin, etc. just because that isn’t their favorite candidate.


129 posted on 10/23/2011 6:42:22 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: The Sparrow
Maybe, like Newt, he's focused on Obama & not scorching Republican earth. Maybe others can learn from Herman Cain on how to promote your cause without tearing down your team.

Is it so hard to understand? Do they think it is just coincidence that Cain and Gingrich are going up in the polls while the bickering juveniles aren't?

130 posted on 10/23/2011 6:47:01 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: onyx

I was reading through Cain’s commentaries around the 2008 elections and he slammed the liberals for the horrible way they treated Gov. Palin.


131 posted on 10/23/2011 7:17:27 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: drewh

[W]hile Perry can skip New Hampshire, I think he’s stuck having to compete in Iowa. Sooner or later he’ll have to suck it up and start attacking Cain in earnest.


Perry had best be real careful about this.


132 posted on 10/23/2011 7:39:51 PM PDT by Grunthor (Poster may come off as abrasive, perhaps even rude. Consider this your warning.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“BTW, what is Cain doing to go after Romney? NOTHING!!!”

I’ve already explained this to you, but I’ll try again; Cain is WINNING. Perry is under the outhouse treading....water. Perry NEEDS to attck to try and recover.

What possible reason would Cain have for attacking ANYONE that he is already clearly BEATING?


133 posted on 10/23/2011 7:48:27 PM PDT by Grunthor (Poster may come off as abrasive, perhaps even rude. Consider this your warning.)
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To: McLynnan

The Texas Enterprise Fund’s ventures stink to high heaven. If you can find no evidence of crony capitalism being enabled through this device, so be it. Several companies are involved, as well as his supporters. His support for block grants to states is an enabler of such shenannigans of political graft and payback.

The fact the TTC failed is in SPITE of his efforts. Who else was backing this thing? If you refuse to call the TTC and his mushy immigration policies globalism, that’s fine. I guess all that’s left is playing politics or stupidity.

Exactly how do you explain his increase in net worth over his term as governor? It was not from his salary in office! I certainly have no problem with people getting rich as long as it is through private and personal effort, not through insider information and crony capitalism with public funds. I guess you approve of Harry Reid’s land deals as well.

Then, there is the Merck/Guardasil fiasco, which again was initiated wholly through his efforts, and stopped by other people.

He knows how it’s done. Everything about him reminds me of how Albert Gore Sr. operated. His favorite way of taking a bribe was at the cattle auction of his Prize Herefords, which fetched multiples of normal prices, yet were no better stock than his neighbors. No hard evidence but the smell.

Then, there’s the whining. “You’re just picking on me because of my faith”, and even getting his wife in on the act.

Cain isn’t perfect either. The fact a national sales tax is politically unpopular doesn’t negate the need for having one. Whores, smugglers and mafiosi should get some skin in the game by some means. Folk whining about how big total sales taxes would be with their State’s taxes should take that up at their own State level. Yes, he served on the Federal Reserve for a while, and has mis-spoke about a few things (doesn’t speak politician), but he has been targeted with more “GOTCHA” questions than the rest of the field put together, and has yet to whine about a single thing. He also made his money while NOT SERVING IN POLITICAL OFFICE!

I’m sorry that most of my reasons for not supporting Perry are negative reasons and suspicions. Negatives and suspicions are also why I don’t support Romney, Gingrich, Bachman, Huntsman, Santorum, and Paul. (Well, with some of them, there are repeated moral failures, bad policy records, flip flops, and ignorance of history, all negatives.)

Vote for Perry. Hell, I don’t care. I hope after the primaries you’ll vote for Cain for President.


134 posted on 10/23/2011 8:09:56 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: matthew fuller; onyx

Wow....this is 4 or 5 of us! There was a time not long ago when you didn’t dare say anything positive about Newt here. Maybe someone should start a Newt ping list!

Hank


135 posted on 10/23/2011 10:41:06 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: federal__reserve
None of the conservative branch of GOP voters are likely to break for Romney.

This bears repeating. This idea that Romney is going to pick up support from the Conservative voters is ridiculous.

I think Romney was rattled even before going into this last debate because he's got to be panicking - over the last few months, there has been a large shift in momentum to Cain, and the polls have changed drastically and he can't get a handle on it.

Mittens has got that same core group of New England liberals, moderates, and Mormons supporting him that he had in 2008, and the only difference between 2011 and 2008 is that he's picked up some McCain supporters.

Romney does not understand how to pick up the 75% or so that is not supporting him. He can attack Cain, Perry, etc., but Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum supporters haven't been flocking too him even after the liberals in the media try to make him out to be the leader and the winner of some of the debates.

And Cain, Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum are not going to get Romney supporters no matter how much mud they sling at him, because the morons supporting Romney are terrified of Conservatives.
136 posted on 10/23/2011 11:15:10 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Houghton M.
If he succeeds in destroying Cain it will not get the nomination for himself. It will hand it over to Romney.

It certainly won't gain him any Cain voters. Cain's voters would go to Newt. jmo

137 posted on 10/23/2011 11:49:22 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Who came to texas and bailed perry out in the last election, hint it wasn’t Cain. http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/09/21/romney_broke_law_to_help_perry.html


138 posted on 10/23/2011 11:58:15 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: af_vet_rr
"The reality is I don’t think Perry has any intention of going after anyone except Romney. That is where his energy is and has been directed."

REALLY? HOW ABOUT THIS?

The poll numbers in Iowa and the strategic logic of the Perry campaign point inexorably to the necessity of Team Perry “going negative” on Herman Cain — and doing so PDQ, while Perry can still get the maximum advantage of his fund-raising advantage.

Link to Perry's Strike Force Plan Against Cain

The campaign for Texas Republican Rick Perry is rallying a “strike force” of volunteers to work in Iowa right before the Iowa GOP caucuses, Politico reports.

Politico’s Mike Allen this morning shared a copy of the Perry campaign email, with the subject line: “Volunteer Need for Strike Force effort”:

“We are actively recruiting volunteers for the Iowa Strike Force effort. We are looking for about 1200 volunteers to be onsite the week of December 27 – January 4 or at the very least onsite no later than January 3.

If someone is asking you how to get involved in the on the ground operations in Iowa, you can have them e-mail strikeforce@rickperry.org for more information.

Please pass along to anyone who has expressed a desire to help. Thanks so much!”

139 posted on 10/24/2011 12:05:43 AM PDT by LADY J ( Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale))
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To: af_vet_rr

Agreed on all points, but if all 5 more conservative candidates remain in the race past first 6 primaries, Romney has a shot at nomination. It will be Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, Newt (I am calling him conservative in spite of man made global warming couch scene with Pelosi) dividing the conservative voters, Paul will get his die-hard bunch and Romney picks up the rest.


140 posted on 10/24/2011 12:08:28 AM PDT by federal__reserve (Perry is a good man but his one on one debates with Obama keeps me awake at nights.)
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