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George F. Will Compares Mitt Romney to Michael Dukakis
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | October 24, 2011 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/24/2011 2:48:21 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Yesterday on This Week with Christiane Amanpour, George Will -- this was during the roundtable discussion, George Will discussing Mitt Romney.

WILL: It has a lot to do with Romney. He is rising as more and more Republicans come to the conclusion that the Republican Party has found its Michael Dukakis, a technocratic Massachusetts governor running on competence, not ideology.

RUSH: Did you hear that? George Will characterizing Mitt Romney as the Republican Party's Michael Dukakis. Michael Dukakis, a Democrat loser running for office in 1988, one of the most famous things that Dukakis did was he had to prove that he wasn't a wimp when it came to military, foreign policy, defense issues, so he shows up in a tank and puts a helmet on. Looked exactly like Beetle Bailey. I mean it looked hilarious. If he had wanted to caricature himself he couldn't-a done it any better. He became a standing joke. And so George Will now says, "Well, Romney's rising as more and more Republicans come to the conclusion that the Republican Party's found its Michael Dukakis, a technocrat Massachusetts governor running on competence, not ideology."

Now, I have just a small disagreement with George F. Will. Michael Dukakis was ideological as any left-wing Democrat is. He was the governor of Massachusetts. Yeah, he was technocratic. He was a statist. I'll never forget Dukakis, they were talking to him about why he wanted to be president. And he said -- you know how you say you love chocolate chip cookies, you love whatever -- he was talking in those terms of how he loves policy. (imitating Dukakis) "I love public policy. I love it. I love rolling up my sleeves. I love process. I love public policy," and he did. He was a technocratic statist. To say that he was not ideological is a little curious. But regardless, comparing Romney to Dukakis -- the Democrat Party loved Dukakis, by the way, and do you remember who ran Dukakis' campaign, Snerdley? Do you remember who it was that ran Dukakis' campaign? Susan Estrich ran Dukakis's campaign.

They thought they had this in the bag. They were up at 22 points at one point. They were way up I think as close to the election as August of 1988 when this show debuted. When we debuted this program on August 1st nationally, he was up 22 points, and we did, we made him the laughingstock of the nation. We got some Pat Metheny music out there and said that this was the music that was being played at Dukakis rallies, because he had to go back to Massachusetts and he was losing ground, 22 up, I think it was that high and he started falling off rapidly. Did the tank business, the Willie Horton ads all came back to haunt him. But I'll tell you what, this a profound insult to equate Romney with Dukakis. And to say that the Republican Party is happy with Romney just as Democrats were with Dukakis, whoa. That may be true.

Well, we know that the Republican establishment, and we know that some of the so-called conservatives in the inside the Beltway conservative media do believe in a big government and an active executive, as they refer to the president, an active executive. They also believe that we Republicans and conservatives must support big government because the people, the voters are signaling that's what they want. We just must do it smarter. And so they're looking at Romney as the steward. This is Will's point. This guy's a technocrat, this guy's a policy wonk, this guy can do it. And when George F. Will says that Romney's not ideological just like Dukakis wasn't, what he's essentially saying here is that Romney's not a conservative. He's a technocrat, a policy guy. Which he is. But Dukakis, as I say, was an active statist. When you think about a technocrat, it is a statist because his selling point is that he can make the big government apparatus run more efficiently, which is what the David Brookses and his buddies on our side in the conservative media claim to support.

That's the new definition of a Republican moderate. Somebody qualified, a technocrat, a statist, a policy wonk can make big government apparatus run more efficient. Well, we don't want a technocrat. We want somebody that's gonna take an axe to this monster. We want somebody that's gonna go grab a chain saw and start whittling this government down to size. We don't want somebody who's adept at managing it. But George F. Will is convinced the Republican Party does. There you have it. I wonder how Romney's gonna react here to being compared by George Will to Dukakis. Hey, Mike, did you happen here to use some initiative and find the music that we played while I've been chatting about it? I knew he had. Some of you were not here back in August of 1988. We'll demo for you how we did it back then.

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RUSH: Okay, you got two elements there of the Dukakis music, correct? Okay, here's what happened. Dukakis was plummeting in the polls, he had a 28-point lead in 1988 against George H. W. Bush. This program debuted on August 1st, and it was not long after that that poll of 22 points, the lead showed up. And then for some reason Dukakis' lead began to dwindle. Some say it happened to be at the same time this program debuted. Regardless, it precipitously dropped. It dropped rapidly, creating a panic. Dukakis returned to Boston from the campaign trail to rally the troops, to have a big fundraising event, and our cameras and microphones were there. And we caught the band. Every candidate has a rally and has a band at the rally. And we caught the rally band tuning up and getting ready for the big appearance. This sort of typified where the campaign was. They were tuning up here.

(playing of song)

RUSH: The crowd's milling in here, the stage curtains are down, the band is tuning up, getting ready for Dukakis to show up.

(continued playing of song)

RUSH: Okay, then Estrich and some others came out, preliminary remarks, welcoming everybody to the big event, and then it built up and built up to the eventual reason everybody was there, the giant announcement of Dukakis. And this is the music that was playing when Dukakis was announced, here he is, the next president of the United States, the governor of Massachusetts, the big technocrat statist, the guy who loves policy, Michael Dukakis.

(continued playing of song)

RUSH: The crowd didn't know what to do here, alternate cheering, great anticipation.

(continued playing of song)

RUSH: Dukakis is on stage now. He's at the front of the stage and he's shaking hands with people before getting ready to make his remarks, the lull, the music.

(continued playing of song)

RUSH: He's on his way back to the podium.

(continued playing of song)

RUSH: That was it, Michael Dukakis, the big rally. Didn't work as we all know, but anyway, that's a long roundabout way of saying that's who Mitt Romney reminds George Will of. (laughing) When you set socialism to music that's what you get, and we had a lot of fun with that, and all during that campaign.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianeamanpour; georgefwill; georgewill; homosexualagenda; libertarians; michaeldukakis; mittisastatist; mittromney; romney4statism; romney4statists; romneyforstatism; romneyforstatists; romneyisastatist; rushlimbaugh; statism; statist; statists; statists4romney; statistsforromney; technocrat

1 posted on 10/24/2011 2:48:29 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Everyone knows Mitt Romney. He ran in 2008.


2 posted on 10/24/2011 2:51:01 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Kaslin

The Dukakis kiss of death, it’s over for Mitt.


3 posted on 10/24/2011 2:52:23 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Kaslin

“Competence”?
At what, circumventing the Constitution?


4 posted on 10/24/2011 3:01:46 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Kaslin
[Dukakis] shows up in a tank and puts a helmet on. Looked exactly like Beetle Bailey.

I thought he looked like an angry chipmunk...


5 posted on 10/24/2011 3:02:30 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck

Rocky the Flying Squirrel.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 3:16:32 PM PDT by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: Kaslin
Isn't Romney much more like Willie Horton than Dukakis?

Think of it this way. Horton became a political problem when the state of Massachusetts cut him loose for a weekend visit and he decided he needed to do a home invasion in Maryland where he beat the occupants and raped the wife.

Here we have the state of Massachusetts once again cutting loose a guy who'd earlier been housed and fed by the state government at public expense, and he's taken the opportunity to break into the Republican party where he's terrorizing the occupants (with a large wad of campaign cash), and for all we know may be joining Joe Biden in upping the rape rate.

I think we need to send Willard and Willy (if he's lose again) back home where they belong!

Oh, yeah, they offer FREE MEDICAL CARE INSURANCE for illegal aliens and there's going to be a hard winter this year. No need to stage a fake accident to get treatment in the emergency ward. Mass is the place to be fur shur. Just walk right in to any medical clinic.

7 posted on 10/24/2011 3:23:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin
Georgie Will owes Dukakus an apology.

Pray for America

8 posted on 10/24/2011 3:26:38 PM PDT by bray (Join the Cain Mutiny, tell the IRS 9-9-9!)
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To: Kaslin

But the comment is untrue. Dukakis was a “card carrying member of the ACLU”. Thats an idealogue in my book.


9 posted on 10/24/2011 3:33:54 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (So how did Charlie Weiss get to be on Dancing With The Stars?)
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To: onyx; Me; myself; FReepers; everyone; Al

RUSH ROCKS!



10 posted on 10/24/2011 3:35:56 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: Kaslin

George Will is one of the biggest RINO nincompoop writers alive, and I don’t know why Rush would give him one millisecond of airtime.


11 posted on 10/24/2011 3:38:04 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Kaslin

Hey George “bow-tie” big-govt. “conservative:” We the people are taking over. Herman Cain, son of a chauffeur and a cleaning woman, Michele Bachman (can’t possibly win), and Sarah Palin are now in charge. Got it? You and your country-club cronies ran the show for decades, George, and you led directly to the first Marxist Presidency. Get out of the way, loser.


12 posted on 10/24/2011 3:46:49 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: bigbob

Maybe Rush is illustrating a Rino (Will) attacking another Rino (Mitt), and finds Catfights gleefully entertaining.


13 posted on 10/24/2011 4:26:21 PM PDT by So Circumstanced
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To: Kaslin
Romney . . . the Republican Party has found its Michael Dukakis

I know Dukakis, his views, and his style well, having lived in MA under his governorship and met the man many times. The main difference between him and Romney is that Mitt governs to the left of Dukakis. No, thank you. I will not under any circumstances vote for Mitt. I will still go to the polls and vote for the down-ticket candidates, so that we'll have a Congress that will restrain either far left big government liberal, but I won't vote Mitt even to avoid Obama Part 2.

14 posted on 10/24/2011 4:40:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Kaslin

Will, Romney, Dukakis: A Trilogy of Rectums.


15 posted on 10/24/2011 4:41:18 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Kaslin

George Will was either accidentally right, intentionally right, or being satirical.

His batting average for conservatives has been way down in the last few years, but he had a single a few weeks ago.

If he intentionally compared Romney to Dukakis, then that’s a double. If it was satirical then he gets a base on balls. If he was accidentally right then he was hit with a pitch.

Let’s hope Will has gotten on board with the conservative base regarding liberal Willard Romney.


16 posted on 10/24/2011 4:50:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins; All

I think the point Rush is making is that Dukakis was onetime also at 22% and the left thought they had the election in the pocket. Now the LSM thinks that Romney has the nomination end the election in his pocket


17 posted on 10/24/2011 5:00:00 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Your tagline is AWESOME!


18 posted on 10/24/2011 5:04:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Kaslin
RINOmney = Statist Technocrat

19 posted on 10/24/2011 5:05:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: onyx; Kaslin; bray; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

We are the hollow men, We are the stuffed men, Leaning together, Headpiece filled with straw.

When Rush was "debutting" Dukakis was 22 points up.

Then the tank, Willie Horton, and Rush playing the discordant Adagio for Technocrats.

Romney seen as one who can facilitate government ops, whereas what's needed is an ax or chainsaw. Romney can also facilitate straddling issues in his teflon-kevlar drawers, and double-jointed "core principles"--

George Will was impressed by another Dukakis, the seeming policy dweeb, Lisping Soetero (to the tune of Waltzing Matilda)--

Obama's beanstalk sprouts executive orders and czars, cancerous agencies, moratoria from a cornucopia of "as the Secretary shall determine"--

So to correct the denial of elliptical orbit, Romney will determine how many circles we must add--

Will is out in Left Field chatting with Soetero and ambidextrous Mitt.

Triumph of the Will has brought us here where the elites meet to tweet Romney vs. Barry--

Both so off-base we lose either way--just the way the pundits prefer.


20 posted on 10/24/2011 5:30:40 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Kaslin

Poor analogy. Dukakis was a commited and reliable statist never veering off course. Romney is a situational leader. He checks which way the wind is blowing and goes with it.


21 posted on 10/24/2011 5:47:24 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Kaslin

Poor analogy. Dukakis was a commited and reliable statist never veering off course. Romney is a situational leader. He checks which way the wind is blowing and goes with it.


22 posted on 10/24/2011 5:47:59 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Kaslin

Like the broken clock, George F. Will is right twice a day, and this is one of them. But I fear our little Republican primary voters will still do as they are told, as they usually do.


23 posted on 10/24/2011 6:30:37 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Hunton Peck

Oddly Dukakis is an Army veteran of the post-Korean War period, but he never fit the part for the American people. Did he win WI, I forget?


24 posted on 10/24/2011 6:34:06 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

Yes, he did win WI, including the county I live in now, but not VA, where I lived at the time (I had to look up WI, though...).

Actually, for what little it’s worth, ‘88 was the only year I ever cast a vote for a Dem presidential candidate — not because I wanted Dukakis to win, but because I didn’t trust GHWB enough to think he deserved the huge mandate he was rolling toward.


25 posted on 10/24/2011 7:07:22 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: rfp1234
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Bullwinkle (The moose) ...


"HEY ... THAT WASN'T NICE !!!!"




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26 posted on 10/24/2011 7:22:10 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: PhilDragoo

“Both so off-base we lose either way—just the way the pundits prefer.”

Absolutely!

Statists to the left of me, Statists to the right...

Stuck in the middle again...


27 posted on 10/25/2011 12:05:45 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB)
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