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Conservatives slam Mitt Romney for going weak-kneed in war on public employees
Washington Post ^ | October 25, 2011 | Greg Sargent - The Plum Line

Posted on 10/26/2011 1:18:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Today, Mitt Romney refused to take a position on the big battle in Ohio over the ballot initiative to repeal Governor John Kasich’s law rolling back the collective bargaining rights of public employees. The fight is a hugely important one to conservatives, with right wing money flowing into the state, and conservative bloggers erupted in fury at Romney, asking how it is that he can be running for president when he isn’t willing to take a firm stand against the scourge of public employees.

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Governors who are willing to risk serious unpopularity in order to roll back the bargaining rights of public employees — like John Kasich and Scott Walker — have become full fledged national conservative heroes. The sense that Romney is unwilling to fully embrace this crusade in a crucial swing state — on the same day that polling shows that labor may defeat conservatives on this one — will seriously deepen already serious doubts on the right about Romney’s conservative mettle.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: collectivebargaining; gopprimary; kasich; perryastroturfing; rinoromney; romney; romney4911mosque; romney4bigdig; romney4clinton; romney4dnc; romney4iag; romney4kerry; romney4obama; romney4obamacare; romney4romney; romney4seiu; romney4sharia; unions; unionthugs; zots4romneybots

A large group of union supporters gather on the steps of the Ohio Statehouse to rally against Senate Bill 5 in Columbus, Ohio, March 1, 2011.

............""Anything is possible in politics, but with such across-the-board support for repealing SB 5, the governor and his team can't be optimistic about the fate of their law," Brown said. The poll surveyed 1,668 registered voters.

At a weekend rally to get out the vote in a Cincinnati suburb, Kasich said the law will give local governments the tools they need to control costs. He said that some voters have misconceptions about what's in the bill.

"If they know what's in the bill, they'll vote for it," he said. "Most people who are against it really don't understand the consequences of a 'no' vote."

While Wisconsin's public sector union fight featured mass protests at the state capital and gained more national attention, Ohio is more important to unions.

Ohio has the sixth largest number of public sector union members among all U.S. states, twice the number of Wisconsin. Wisconsin's law restricting collective bargaining exempts police and firefighters, but Ohio's includes them."..... Source

1 posted on 10/26/2011 1:18:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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"As a true conservative, I stand with Gov. Kasich in promoting S.B.5 for fiscal responsibility and job creation in Ohio," Perry said in a statement to CNN. "Gov. Kasich and the Republican leadership of Ohio are to be commended for their efforts."

Added Perry, "My record as a pro-jobs governor is clear and you don't have to wonder where I stand."

Earlier in the day, Romney visited a Cincinnati-area phone bank run by the state Republican Party and rallied volunteers who have been urging Ohioans to vote yes on Issue 2, a ballot measure that would ratify S.B.5.

But Romney would not say specifically if he supports S.B.5, which Ohio voters oppose by a 57-32 margin, according to a Quinnipiac poll out Tuesday

Instead, he issued only generic support for GOP efforts to control spending in Columbus.

"I am not speaking about the particular ballot issues," Romney said, after being pressed by reporters. "Those are up to the people of Ohio. But I certainly support the efforts of the governor to reign in the scale of government. I am not terribly familiar with the two ballot initiatives. But I am certainly supportive of the Republican Party's efforts here."...............Perry takes sides in Ohio union fight after Romney dodges issue


2 posted on 10/26/2011 1:20:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
war on public employees

No bias there!

3 posted on 10/26/2011 1:21:34 AM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s pretty mushy even for Mitt.


4 posted on 10/26/2011 1:22:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh good grief. Not even Mitt flip flops that quick. I think a more likely explanation is that he is being careful about what forums he makes certain assertions in.


5 posted on 10/26/2011 1:24:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: iowamark; HiTech RedNeck

AFL-CIO — Aug 2011:

“We haven’t checked the national polls lately to see how Texas Gov. Rick Perry is doing in his I’m-more-right-wing-conservative-than-thou race to capture the Republican presidential nomination. But it looks like he’s closing in on the lead in another important election—the Transport Workers’ (TWU‘s) Worst Governor Ever summer special election.

In a new video for this humorous look at some seriously bad governors when it comes to working families—such as Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, Ohio’s John Kasich, New Jersey’s Chris Christie and others—we find Florida’s Rick Scott basking in the glow of an early lead in the race for the title.

But wait—Perry just may pull ahead of Scott after touting his wildly unpopular voter ID bill and rampant teacher layoffs, as qualifications for the dubious crown.

The contest is part of the union’s Workers’ Rights Are Human Rights campaign and will help expose the extreme agenda of reactionary governors and let Americans send a message to the governor of their choosing that he or she is the worst governor ever.

Along with Perry, Walker, Scott, Kasich and Christie, there are other pretty rotten governors to choose from—Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania, Rick Snyder of Michigan, Paul LePage of Maine and Jan Brewer of Arizona.

Click here to cast your vote and then let he or she know what you think by sharing your vote with the governor through e-mail and social media, including Facebook and Twitter.”

http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/08/24/perry-closing-gap-on-scott-in-twus-worst-governor-contest/


6 posted on 10/26/2011 1:27:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cool. More Perry vs. Romney. May the best RINO win, I guess.


7 posted on 10/26/2011 1:32:34 AM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

AFL-CIO = a bunch of screaming lefties.


8 posted on 10/26/2011 1:33:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Utmost Certainty

Somebody’s got to play second fiddle, I suppose. Go Cain Go.


9 posted on 10/26/2011 1:34:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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Rick Perry: Chairman of RGA [Republican Gov. Association set up site for supporters to contact Scott Walker during his Wisconsin battle]

VIDEO [1:00 mark] Perry: [Walker] principled individual who stands up and says, "This is what I believe in."

10 posted on 10/26/2011 1:37:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Oh good grief. Not even Mitt flip flops that quick. I think a more likely explanation is that he is being careful about what forums he makes certain assertions in.

That's -- I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals. [video clip] -- Mitt Romney, GOP presidential debate - October 18, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV

Rudy Giuliani asked Mitt Romney the same question in the 2008 CNN debate that Rick Perry asked him during the CNN 2011 debate -- Mitt lost it both times.

Nov 28, 2008 CNN-YouTube Debate: Sound familiar? [LOOK who interrupts whom!!]

Funny Accent Mitt Romney, discussing reports illegal immigrants did landscaping at his home: It would "not be American" to check workers' papers simply because they have a "funny accent." [acknowledges need for giving health care and education to illegals]

Sound familiar? Mike Huckabee, replying to Romney's criticism of providing college scholarships to children of illegal immigrants: "In all due respect, we are a better country than to punish children for what their parents did."

At the same debate: John McCain: "We must recognize these are God's children as well. ... I will enforce the borders first. But we won't demagogue it."

11 posted on 10/26/2011 1:42:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wisconsin's law restricting collective bargaining exempts police and firefighters, but Ohio's includes them

Wisconsin made a mistake. They should ALWAYS be included. The beatification of police and firemen after 9/11 was ridiculous. They are just public workers, not untouchable saints. And I have been royally pissed off seeing NYC police and firefighters appearing with Ed Shultz on broadcasts covering recall efforts of Wisonsin Republicans, yelling for their "share".

12 posted on 10/26/2011 1:56:27 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Now that Gov.Walker has shown that what he did SAVES union jobs and keeps cities and towns from going bankrupt, it will be easier to move that ball down the road.


13 posted on 10/26/2011 2:05:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney should go back to Massachusetts AND STAY THERE!


14 posted on 10/26/2011 2:08:51 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Our country cannot withstand another placeholder, go along to get along rino President. No Romney, no way.

I posted Cain bumper sticker to my car yesterday. Our republic requires bold measures.

15 posted on 10/26/2011 2:14:44 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!

Romney’s numbers should continue to decline after this.


16 posted on 10/26/2011 2:46:30 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Romney’s numbers should continue to decline after this.

Praying that they do after this show of spinelessness.

17 posted on 10/26/2011 3:11:12 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obummer's agenda http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
The sense that Romney is unwilling to fully embrace this crusade in a crucial swing state — on the same day that polling shows that labor may defeat conservatives on this one — will seriously deepen already serious doubts on the right about Romney’s conservative mettle.
There's yer reason right there.

Like most liberals, Romney doesn't want to lose the Union Thug vote.

18 posted on 10/26/2011 3:15:00 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: iowamark

Hey, you’re not supposed to notice when their bias is showing!


19 posted on 10/26/2011 3:30:35 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Romney actually supported it this summer, but because he's scared sh*tless of the building mob of union thugs against sb5, he is backing down and will probably do a full flip flop if asked again. This man stands for absolutely nothing. He'd throw all conservative values under the bus if it meant a chance at the White House. "I'm running for office for pete sakes!"
20 posted on 10/26/2011 3:30:49 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s because Mittens is like the Govenor doing his best to sidestep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8


21 posted on 10/26/2011 3:36:27 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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I remember, as a CA voter, being irritated when Clinton would come stick his nose into our state elections.

SB5 is a state issue. In the spirit of the 10th amendment, presidential candidates should talk broad principles but leave it at that.

22 posted on 10/26/2011 3:36:27 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Lady4Liberty

Wow, that’s pathetic. Romney’s as gutless as he appeared.


23 posted on 10/26/2011 3:37:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But Romney would not say specifically if he supports S.B.5, which Ohio voters oppose by a 57-32 margin, according to a Quinnipiac poll out Tuesday

Instead, he issued only generic support for GOP efforts to control spending in Columbus.


Good old Romney.....still won’t answer any question with a yes or no answer. That type of behavior clearly shows a dishonest person and a manipulator.


24 posted on 10/26/2011 3:51:00 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Scott Walker for president.


25 posted on 10/26/2011 3:57:29 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.

(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)



"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn’t make any sense at all.""

--  President Ronald Reagan



26 posted on 10/26/2011 4:08:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lady4Liberty

You’re not kidding. If Romney gets the nomination, he’ll move to the center.... or worse yet, left of center... so fast it’ll make your head spin. It’ll look like a one man stampede.

I keep saying Romney will not repeal Obamacare. Here’s how that will go. Romney wins the White House. GOP holds the House and either has a very narrow majority or minority in the Senate. Romney is unable to get 60 votes to repeal Obamacare in the Senate. Romney, seeing how Obama lost popularity by using reconciliation to enact Obamacare, does not want that. Not to mention, Romney actually likes Obamacare. So, he, and a yet-to-be-determined Gang of Whatever, with the usual suspects from both parties ‘reforms’ Obamacare, and voila! we have Romneycare! This will easily carry the Senate, narrowly carry the House, and socialized medicine goes on... probably forever.


27 posted on 10/26/2011 4:32:45 AM PDT by Big E
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28 posted on 10/26/2011 5:45:29 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The problem I see is that aside from Perry, these governors, who are doing the right thing IMHO but taking a lot of sh*t for it, are among the most unpopular governors in their own states right now, especially Kasich.

People want change, but not too much at once. Overreaching is why the Dems lost in 2010 in the first place!


29 posted on 10/26/2011 7:37:35 AM PDT by RockinRight (In under 13 months, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From your posted article:

In response to the outcry, Romney’s campaign rolled out a creative argument: His reluctance is about preserving states rights. “Gov. Romney believes that the citizens of states should be able to make decisions about important matters of policy that affect their states on their own,” Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul explained.

That is a stupid argument coming from the Romney camp.

When union Democrats from all over the country got involved, the issues grew from being simply a state's rights issue to a national discussion of outside thuggery, the union's rights and future direction in today's society, and the marginalization of local government rights and abilities due to union intervention and strongholds.

While we do need to honor the rights of every state to govern themselves as per their own citizens understanding, there are also quite few national problems here which Romney could have spoken up against but chose not to.

30 posted on 10/26/2011 7:38:35 AM PDT by casinva
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Romney opposed the two most successful conservative policy efforts of the last 30 years... the Reagan policies of the 1980`s and the Contract With America of the 1990`s.

An Essay on Mitt Romney. Its damning.

31 posted on 10/26/2011 7:49:47 AM PDT by 506Lake (I'll say it again... no more compromise.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gosh, you mean that Mittens dodged an opportunity to endorse a conservative position? On public employee unions, no less.

I’m really, really surprised.

Really.


32 posted on 10/26/2011 10:44:46 AM PDT by mojito
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