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Merkel: 50 pct haircut to cut Greek debt by 100 bln euros
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| 10/27/2011
| Reuters
Posted on 10/27/2011 10:09:01 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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So debtors have to eat a 100 billion euro loss, yet civil servants are required to make a "contribution towards private sector participation".
Wait for Ireland, Portugal and Spain to get in on these terms. The precedent has been set.
To: risen_feenix
Yippee- $100 Billion euros the Greeks borrowed and don’t have to repay! Found money!
Next PIIIGS up to the trough?
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:12:04 AM PDT
by
silverleaf
(Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
To: risen_feenix
Also..it's NOT a haircut..because the remaining lesser debt hasn't been repaid, it's been "rolled over"..and they're giving Greece MORE $$. This nisjust smoke and mirrors on a continental scale, and no one is calling it for what it is..
Actually, to the Greek demonstraters/unions, they'll think they've won..the other side blinked first..
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:12:44 AM PDT
by
ken5050
(Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
To: risen_feenix
Don’t forget the Italians.
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:16:49 AM PDT
by
EEGator
To: risen_feenix
Another 100 billion on top of the 10s of billions already given? For a country with only 11 million people? How did they ever manage to burn through that much money?! (Rethorical question)
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:21:14 AM PDT
by
Moltke
(Always retaliate first.)
To: Moltke
Entitlement programs, government pensions, etc. burn up lots of money. Our unfunded liability for SS and Medicare is over $60 trillion. We are no better than Greece.
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:31:31 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: risen_feenix
What is going to happen when Italy, Spain, Portugal and others cannot meet their obligations? Is their debt going to be cut by 50%? This cannot go on. They are just delaying the crisis that is sure to come.
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:32:07 AM PDT
by
Uncle Hal
To: risen_feenix
They will just cut their own hair.
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:33:00 AM PDT
by
tobyhill
(Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
To: EEGator
To: risen_feenix
Can’t the US just blame it on predatory lenders and take over Greece to save it?
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:50:30 AM PDT
by
Eleutheria5
(End the occupation. Annex today.)
To: kabar
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posted on
10/27/2011 10:52:15 AM PDT
by
verity
(The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
To: ken5050
...the remaining lesser debt hasn't been repaid, it's been "rolled over"..and they're giving Greece MORE $$.You are correct. Greece has been tottering on the brink of complete financial collapse for a while now. They've never proposed anything resembling a balanced budget and aren't any closer to enacting one now. Yet the other countries tied to them through the EU and the Euro have no choice but to keep eating the cost. They just keep bailing in the desperate hope that somehow the problem will fix itself without them making any fundamental changes.
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posted on
10/27/2011 11:06:26 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yan
To: risen_feenix
In other words, they get another year or two of socialism
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posted on
10/27/2011 11:17:01 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: risen_feenix
They won’t get those terms unless they get into the same situation as Greece. So watch for them to start borrowing more and giving more to their unions. The precedent is set. Make your economy as bad as Greece.
To: risen_feenix
To nearly all who've commented so far... "Debtors" don't have to "eat" the "loss." Bond holders (creditors) do. As for civil servants, there are too many taking too much. Without private sector product increases, there can be no real repayment. As for Ireland, Portugal and Spain, Merkel commented that Ireland has recently done well. Portugal, Spain and Italy haven't (socialist tourist traps).
It is indeed a "haircut." Bond holders will collectively lose 50% of their investments (writedown). Europe has effectively repudiated half of Greece's debt, so that Greece isn't doing so, itself.
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posted on
10/27/2011 11:25:51 AM PDT
by
familyop
("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --Deacon character, "Waterworld")
To: risen_feenix
To nearly all who've commented so far...
"Debtors" don't have to "eat" the "loss." Bond holders (creditors) do. As for civil servants, there are too many taking too much. Without private sector product increases, there can be no real repayment. As for Ireland, Portugal and Spain, Merkel commented that Ireland has recently done well. Portugal, Spain and Italy haven't (socialist tourist traps).
It is indeed a "haircut." Bond holders will collectively lose 50% of their investments (writedown). Europe has effectively repudiated half of Greece's debt, so that Greece isn't doing so, itself.
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posted on
10/27/2011 11:27:15 AM PDT
by
familyop
("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --Deacon character, "Waterworld")
To: familyop
While it is true that they have repudiated half of Greece’s debt, they also agreed to loan Greece $137 billion more euros.
It is a total wash. This is all a big PR game. Europe is doomed. A total collapse is coming.
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posted on
10/27/2011 11:40:22 AM PDT
by
Fishface
(teach a man to fish...he eats for a lifetime.)
To: risen_feenix
I can’t wait to see them try to borrow more money from someone other than an EU government. What’s the going rate for countries that default on 50% of their debt? I wouldn’t buy their bonds in the next century.
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posted on
10/27/2011 11:49:22 AM PDT
by
Pollster1
(Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
To: Fishface
Merkel should have decoupled from the Euro and left the rest of the parasite states on their own.
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posted on
10/27/2011 11:58:42 AM PDT
by
henkster
(Socialists and liberals all want jobs; they just don't want to work.)
To: familyop
I presume a lot of those Bond Holders are pension funds.
Is that correct? Will this cause another riot?
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posted on
10/27/2011 12:05:26 PM PDT
by
az_gila
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