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DO CONSERVATIVES WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?
To the Point News ^ | Thursday, 27 October 2011 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 10/28/2011 1:45:03 AM PDT by hocndoc

DO CONSERVATIVES WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?

This is a serious question, by no means rhetorical. Conservatives may be full of sound and fury against Zero, but it signifies nothing without actual evidence, of which there is little.

Tea Partyers can wave the American flag and proclaim their passion for reclaiming America, but you can't beat something with nothing.

If this isn't true, then why is a Total Rino way ahead in the polls? *******************

Perry's tax and economic reform proposal is far, far better (and better thought out) than Cain's 9-9-9, which keeps changing and necessitates a national sales tax. His mechanism for reducing the federal government to Constitutional levels is the best one for doing so - the 10th Amendment. He will revive the economy far, far more than Romney would by getting the government more out of the way, and by drilling, baby, drilling. (Remember that Romney's a Warmist who loves renewable energy scams.)

One of these days, conservatives are going to have to figure out that we're not to going to get better than Perry. And that he really is our best chance to rescue our economy, indeed our country.

To see why - or at least to consider this as a possibility - read the transcript of Perry's interview with John Harwood of CNBC on Tuesday (10/25). http://thepage.time.com/2011/10/25/transcript-of-rick-perrys-interview-with-cnbcs-john-harwood/ (A caveat: this is an unedited computer-generated transcription of Perry's answers with lots of mistakes and glitches, which were left in - one suspects to make Perry not as fluent as you could see on television).

What really turned me on, frankly, was his absolute refusal to be intimidated by envy-mongering. Harwood starts right off the bat with this, saying that his tax plan would be a huge tax cut for the wealthy, that "those at the top, it is hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of dollars for them." Perry immediately responds:

"But I don't care about that. What I care about is them having the dollars to invest in their companies. To go out and maybe start a business because they got the confidence again 'cause they actually get to keep more of what they work for."

OMG. That's the ballgame. The entire argument of the Left is an envy-trip. What America needs more than any other one single thing is a president who says to the Dems, the Enemedia, Academia, their acolytes, the entire dog's breakfast of the Left, "I don't care about your envy!

Harwood can't get over this, so later he asks a gotcha, "Do you fundamentally believe we should not have a progressive tax system in the country?" Perry straight out answers, "I do." Harwood is shocked. "But the idea of taking-- of having-- higher rates-- of various kinds for people who earn more are [sic] not right?" Again, Perry says straight, "I don't agree with that."

I encourage you to read the whole thing. Try this on:

"I don't think this president understands basic economics. Not economics that work. He may understand some theory that someone in Princeton sat and dreamed up, but it's not working.

"This President would be wise if he addressed the economy in the way that we know it works. You give incentives to job creators. Lower the tax burden, lower the regulatory climate, and this President would be stunned I'm sure. But America's economy would take off and take off quickly.

"That's what we need in a president that respects how this country got to the point of being the greatest economy in the world. And it was done simply by giving the incentive to job creators so they knew they could keep more of what they work for."

No teleprompter here, ad lib. You really think Zero could take him in a one-on-one debate? And look how he took care of the "birther" thing:

"I don't have a clue about where the President (was born) and what his birth certificate says. But it's also a great distraction. I'm not distracted by it. If those of you in the media want to talk about it that's fine, but I hope what you'll really get focused on is how are we going to get this country back on track.

"Because if we don't, America's next generation is not going to have as good a future as what we had, and that's what I'm concerned about. I know how to do that. And you do it by giving a flat tax. You get these regulations pulled off of businesses, and you allow entrepreneurs the confidence that they can go risk their capital."

You can't get a better answer than that. Birtherism is a distraction for exactly the reasons Perry says. And for another reason. Getting Zero removed from office on a technicality would be a moral disaster.

A majority of American voters electing Zero was the most suicidally stupid and immoral act ever committed en masse in American history since the Civil War. It was complete moral collapse of the electorate to vote for a man whose preacher wanted God to damn their country.

The only way it can be rectified, to stop America from continuing to slide down the path to national suicide and resurrect their morality, is for a majority of voters to unelect him.

Moreover, to unelect him such that it reverses the direction he has taken our country. So which Republican candidate can best do this? Defeat Zero resoundingly, not even close, and pervasively reverse Zero's course?

Definitely, that candidate is not Romney. I do not think it is Cain, for as fine and accomplished a man as he is, he does not know what he is doing. I think Perry does.

I could be wrong about Cain. He is very smart, maybe smart enough to climb a virtually 90-degree learning curve in the next couple of months.

Conservatives will need to watch him carefully to see if he can do this. They can't be led by emotions, neither by a crush on Cain nor by carping on Perry. They have to choose wisely.

This is the most serious choice collectively conservatives will ever make. The literal fate of our America depends on it. Conservatives have to decide whether they want to win in 2012 or not.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; amnestyperry; cain; conservatives; drjackwheeler; frontrunner; hermancain; illegalsperry; openbordersperry; rickperry; rinoperry
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To: iowamark
Perry’s Open Borders, subsidies for illegals, trash conservatives politics is a recipe for the destruction of America. Such evil politics may work in the short term, but are nothing short of Death.

And he's anti Confederate...

Rick Perry comes out against Confederate flag license plate

21 posted on 10/28/2011 2:53:04 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Yosemitest

“I love the smell of RINOs in the morning. .... Scares the hell outta the moderates. My boyz love it!”


22 posted on 10/28/2011 2:58:54 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: hocndoc
Perry's tax and economic reform proposal ?

Here's a comparison that's worth your time. Of course if you get paid in cash, like most of Perry's ILLEGALS, you don't pay any tax.
23 posted on 10/28/2011 3:00:16 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
How you been? You ask me years ago about my ID.
As a Control Tower Watch Supervisor, my operating initials were ST.
24 posted on 10/28/2011 3:02:19 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Yosemitest

“Perry don’t surf !”


25 posted on 10/28/2011 3:03:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Yosemitest
First, take a look at those links to youtube videos for an idea about Mr. Cain's principles.

Second, look at the Texas Debt Clock and the math on Texas jobs.

Then, read Dr. Wheeler's comments again, along with this bit from that same article:

"The difference between Establishment Republicans and Conservatives is that the former care more about winning than principles, which is why they constantly compromise them. Thus their mantra of ABO - which they morph into the con that only Rino Romney can beat Zero."


A Bailout is a Bailout

A Bailout is a Bailout Empowerment Opportunity Zones for Corrupt Inner Cities

26 posted on 10/28/2011 3:09:24 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Yosemitest

Yeah, I remember that!


27 posted on 10/28/2011 3:11:32 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mister Cain: a) IOWA upgrades, GOOD! b) Extend an offer to John Bolton to be your chief FP adviser)
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To: CSI007

What distortions? Those are videos of Herman Cain speaking, not cut.

Did you know that we passed a law this year in Texas prohibiting counties and cities from receiving State funds if they pay for abortions from their own taxes? It does not have a rape and incest exception. Others will follow.


28 posted on 10/28/2011 3:13:50 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

He may not surf, but he sure does “Quack” !


29 posted on 10/28/2011 3:15:33 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: hocndoc

So Cain is a RINO, but Perry isn’t? LOL!


30 posted on 10/28/2011 3:17:16 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Darkwolf377; Yosemitest
And I see no evidence that Perry would beat Obama in debate so handily--has this writer even watched any of the actual debates?


31 posted on 10/28/2011 3:18:10 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Yosemitest

Hooray, excellent post! My choices also. I agree with you and Jack Kerwick 100%. Even though 0bambi and the Wookie are doing a “Thelma and Louise” on America at 100 MPH; Romney would do it at 75 MPH. Same result.

Next time some says hold your nose and vote Romney. Tell them “Yeah, just like you did for Christine O’Donnell, Sharron Angle and Joe Miller.” 13% of Delaware PUBs actually voted for a Marxist over the GOP candidate.

I’m writing in Governor Sarah Palin in both the primary and general.

RECONSIDER, SARAH, RECONSIDER


32 posted on 10/28/2011 3:26:10 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: hocndoc
Yeah, Perry creating lots of jobs for ILLEGALS.
33 posted on 10/28/2011 3:26:43 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

Nice post! Thanks. :)


34 posted on 10/28/2011 3:28:28 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: raybbr

No, Sam Houston was anti-Confederate.

Perry’s anti-license plate, but not “anti-Confederate.” As your source states, he’s defended our history and heritage in person and supported our defense of historic monuments and display of the flag in Federal courts.

I think the license plate should be allowed, btw. It’s completely voluntary. It’s ugly, but under the current rules, it should be allowed and I imagine it will be.


35 posted on 10/28/2011 3:29:15 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Netizen

Even better than the first, I love it.


36 posted on 10/28/2011 3:31:25 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

I like to leave the originals blank for adding text later. :)


37 posted on 10/28/2011 3:33:52 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Yosemitest

Another awesome post. Bookmarking this thread into my Perry folder for future use.


38 posted on 10/28/2011 3:38:28 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Yosemitest

That is a bogus “study.” Find where that study was able to count - the numbers are all estimated using faulty logic. They assumed one number and guessed at the rest.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/279607/cis-and-texas-immigrant-job-myth-chuck-devore

“Put simply, CIS used faulty methodology to make its main point. It compared a net increase in jobs in Texas over a four-year period with a gross increase in employed newly arrived immigrants in Texas.”


39 posted on 10/28/2011 3:40:37 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

The article only names Romney and Ann Coulter RINO’s.


40 posted on 10/28/2011 3:44:06 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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