Posted on 10/28/2011 10:59:24 PM PDT by Kevmo
47% is still 12% better than Obama’s 42% in self-looping mode.
The alleged nuclear reaction in it is said to produce low energy gamma rays (they call it X rays). Maybe no worse than old fashioned TV sets, but people will be skittish about having one sit just anywhere.
Even if it runs on nothing, it still has to recoup the cost over the life of the machine. If it were 100 dollars per megawatt, it would be competitive. At 100 per KW, things would have to get much more expensive before it would enter serious production.
The cost per megawatt hour of operation would be around 30.
Over a 40 year expected life of operation, for a plant that generates 30 MW, that would be 9000/hr or 3.1 billion dollars over the life of the plant.
So, yeah.
Fraud.
Shyster.
I am an engineer and I call hoax.
The man needs to donate some money to Zero and get the US Government to mandate that we all buy one. Then he and GE can suck some milk out of the government teat.
I’m not willing to call it a hoax, but it may not be applicable for residential uses. It may only prove useful for industrial or military.
I expect you to be right. But meanwhile, we shall see.
It would be like a 300k computer back in the 60s.
The “client” is probably a crony of Rossi, not a customer. As for “unconfirmed reports” that the “customer” was the Navy, the Navy would be demanding lots more than a visual walk through. Rossi sounds like a fraudster and him going to the length of creating his own “journal” because his articles could not pass the peer review process, isn’t helpful. He’s a promoter and I see speculation about his technology, customers, etc on FR most every night. The generating set hooked up to his device and no explanation about why it was hooked up and running for the whole test are fishy.
Most people, including myself, who are keeping track of it, aren’t necessarily convinced about anything about the project. At worst, we’re giving it enough benefit of the doubt to speculate about it, but that’s it.
If Rossi does have something, it’s not going to be a startup that would likely buy into it anyway. It would be the military or GE that would invest in it and they have sufficient expertise to not be fooled by a con man.
Well, depending on the specifics, without pollution concerns, you could really scale one of these suckers up.
Instead of messing with a MW generator, try a massive 1 GW generator. If most of the cost is in construction, you build as big as you can under existing construction methods and enclose it into as small a surface area as possible.
Say it were 1 metre cubed, you’d build it 10x10x10. 1000x more space on only 100x the ground. You’d substantially lower your per unit cost by a factor of around 10, meaning that your 300k computer is now 30k.
Depending on the weight, I really can’t see these things being used for transportation, unless of course you are looking at things like aircraft carriers.
It’s the same sort of speculation that people have when they talk about Star Trek: how much of that can really be done, what they agree with or disagree about it, whatever.
It doesn’t mean that those people have taken Star Trek as gospel.
They’re having fun with it, nothing more I think.
If his paying client is a million dollar company, they’d be able to hire a qualified expert, who can watch for possible scams.If there even is a company.If the company was happy with the results, it’s probably fine.
I strongly suspect that this is a fraud, but I could be wrong. But it's important to remember every supposed fact about this test needs to be prefaced with "Rossi claims".
When this company announces their relationship with Rossi, then we can evaluate their credibility. Until then, it's still just "Rossi claims".
And, while we're waiting to see how this plays out, here's an interesting article about a con man a few years ago:
Is it a 'magic box' or a high-tech hoax?
It's interesting to note that this con man was able to get several million dollars from companies like Blockbuster and Intel, using nothing more than a hidden VCR and a half-mile of coax cable.
Everything can be scaled up or scaled down, but there’s always a sweet spot, where an optimization is reached in terms of energy usage vs energy output.
So, in this case, if it’s too large or small, you could find that the cost of nickel and hydrogen would not be cost effective, because you’d either end up with too much waste produced or the hydrogen and nickel wouldn’t react properly because too little is used.
Unbelievable. I bet a few execs and engineers lost their jobs over that one.
I hope it’s real, because I just like it when science advances, even if I don’t directly benefit.
Even with using genetics to grow a hamster big enough to run on a gigantic treadmill connected to a generator, you’ll still have to feed him.
This thing could be called a herd-of-eCats. There would be an optimal size for each eCat.
Still, I’m feeling very seagullish about this demo. It was supposed to cook out twice the energy it did. What it produced looked a whole lot like the capacity of the generator it was hooked to for the entire time, and if there was a kilowatt hour meter on the connection I haven’t heard about it.
I get where you’re coming from and Rossi is definitely going to have to refine it so it’s far more objectively measurable.
No doubt that someone can come up with counter examples of real genius pioneers who made major breakthroughs that established science said was impossible. But most people only hear of the rare successes, and not of the common scams.
At $100 construction cost per 1KW of generating capacity, it would pay back its construction cost in FOUR MONTHS.
9000 hours per year of operating time means 9000kwh/yr. At retail price of 3 cents per KWH, that is $270/yr. At a more typical household rate of 10 cents per KWH, it would pay for itself in 6 weeks.
You must be using that “new math” the Dims are teaching kids these days.
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