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Hawaii Couple's Daughter Taken Away for 18 Hours Over Alleged Sandwich Theft
foxnews.com ^ | 10-29-11

Posted on 10/29/2011 7:29:43 AM PDT by rawhide

Edited on 10/29/2011 7:32:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A Hawaii couple

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: cps; hawaii; safeway; sandwich
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To: babygene

Me too can’t stand sour grapes. How else can you ascertain they are sweet? Now as for cantaloupes and watermelons...


21 posted on 10/29/2011 7:49:25 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Lazamataz

re: Might have been okay to cut this chick some slack.

I agree. Under normal circumstances she shouldn’t have eaten the sandwich in the store. But the woman is 7 months pregnant, which is very distracting mentally. And when you are that pregnant and feeling weak, especially after having walked a long distance to the store, it is best to eat. (The husband had no such excuse.) Meanwhile, I think the store should have simply accepted the payment for the sandwiches and warned them against doing it in the future instead of making a big case of it.


22 posted on 10/29/2011 7:49:31 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Reading the blog, the couple meant to do that with the sandwich wrappers. Whether that is true or not, what happened was extreme far beyond the crime. And Safeway upper management agrees.


23 posted on 10/29/2011 7:51:30 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: 1rudeboy
30 weeks pregnant ~ 30 weeks pregnant ~ 30 weeks pregnant ~ 30 weeks pregnant.

Remember, when the store opened its doors and put all the stuff on the shelves, and failed to set up a check out verification process (like Costco), they took the risk that their customers could and would make mistakes.

Now they know that the chilluns get seized by the state ~ that's one of the first steps!

Do you imagine that was a thrilling experience for the manager? I do.

24 posted on 10/29/2011 7:52:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rawhide

So..the woman was “feeling faint, dizzy” and decided to eat something without paying for it.

And, the husband also decided to eat a sandwich without paying for it?

He must’ve been “feeling faint, dizzy” too...


25 posted on 10/29/2011 7:54:01 AM PDT by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: babygene

My Publix will give a whole section of grapes if you ask. Same with any fruit. Heck, they throw tons of stuff away daily and don’t mind at all. I always ask though. I don’t want to be struck by lightening on a clear day, you know the whole Ten Commandments and all.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 7:55:11 AM PDT by poobear (Facts, the TURD in the punchbowl of Liberal thought!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“pick up some sandwiches and eat them while we were shopping,”

Nope, very bad idea. You have no idea how much loss occurs this way.


I believe it. And it’s pretty easy to leave the packaging/wrapper in the cart so you and the clerk won’t miss it.

I’d like to know what the woman did with the sandwich wrappers?


27 posted on 10/29/2011 7:55:23 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Graybeard58
I hope this store manager is fired!!!

For reporting people stealing from him?

No, for not using common sense and allowing this to escalate out of hand to where a little girl was taken away from her parents. Imagine the thoughts going through her little head. What a cold-hearted manager not to back down. A simple police report of shoplifting should have been sufficient, but not being arrested and taken away from your 3-yr daughter. Safeway upper management agrees.

28 posted on 10/29/2011 7:55:41 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Nevadan; Lazamataz
There was a third party ~ the child ~ a 3 year old. As you envision the events in your mind tell us how the adults wolf down the sandwiches and leave the child unfed.

Gad ~ chicken salad sandwiches? In a store? Walking the aisles?

Ptomaine city fur shur.

29 posted on 10/29/2011 7:55:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rawhide

You do NOT eat in the grocery store.


30 posted on 10/29/2011 7:56:55 AM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: bgill

Most national grocery stores around here that have a deli, also have seating for you to eat it in the store.


31 posted on 10/29/2011 7:59:12 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: momtothree
once when I had a allergy/coughing attack

Exactly the same here. Many times I've opened a pack of Luden's cough drops, taken one and put the rest in my cart.

Supermarket sells Peet's coffee to shoppers, pay at the register. Are people actually saying I can't take a sip until I've finished shopping and paid? Iced coffees would be water and hot ones cold by that time. Hey, I'm an honest guy. I always pay. Always. And that coffee is always half gone by the time I finish shopping. Nothing wrong with it.

I bought some shelled bulk pecans once and they were kind of mushy, not crisp, and stale. Nothing wrong with trying one before you buy. Just don't try two, three, a handful!

Follow a chef around a produce market. He'll sample lots of things before buying them.

I've always thought it was okay, as long as you only took one small nibble to test the quality of a bulk item. Once you open a sealed package, though, it's yours and you have to pay for it.

32 posted on 10/29/2011 8:04:33 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: rawhide
I hope this store manager is fired!!!

If he did that to me and my 3-yr-old, firing would be the nicest thing to happen to him, and by no means the only thing.

33 posted on 10/29/2011 8:08:02 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Somebody please hit the reset button on the American experiment.)
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To: rawhide

No chance BOTH these parents “forgot” they ordered AND ATE sandwiches when they were checking out. The very fact security noticed this and asked for the receipt indicates it has happened before.

Highly likely these slugs figured they would not get noticed anymore then someone who takes a grape from the fruit bib is noticed.

They got what was coming to them and i hope they get fined 10 times the value of the sandwiches PLUS court costs.


34 posted on 10/29/2011 8:09:50 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: rawhide
How come all they forgot was the wrappers in the cart?
35 posted on 10/29/2011 8:09:54 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: muawiyah

We have begun to live in an age when someone (pregnant, or otherwise—or assuming facts most favorable—accompanied by a stupid spouse) does something stupid, and expects to be “forgiven” because they blog about it. Your initial response simply encourages more of this kind of behavior.


36 posted on 10/29/2011 8:10:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: FlJoePa

I agree with you. I see food containers, the contents having been eaten, placed on a shelf somewhere and never paid for. Theft is theft. It’s the same with newspapers. People insert the price of a paper, open the door and take several papers. Where were their parents when they were growing up or is it that their parents taught them these behaviors?


37 posted on 10/29/2011 8:12:58 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: moovova
So..the woman was “feeling faint, dizzy” and decided to eat something without paying for it. And, the husband also decided to eat a sandwich without paying for it? He must’ve been “feeling faint, dizzy” too...

I'm always suspicious when a story begins with some distress to get sympathy.

38 posted on 10/29/2011 8:13:32 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: muawiyah

There’s a concept called proportionality of penalty.

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They may lose these people as customers but the story will also give pause to others who have or have any ideas of doing something like this. On balance the store wins financially and I refuse to believe any significant % of local people would condone this sort of petty thievery.


39 posted on 10/29/2011 8:15:55 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 1rudeboy
Safeway eventually has to pay their lawyer to attend to this sort of problem. This is why wise managers know when to escalate and when to deescalate a situation.

This was not a wise manager and he will cost the company the profit on tens of thousands of chicken salad sandwiches.

Again, your store puts products out on shelves for customer selection to cut costs AND increase opportunities for profitability. In electing to use that method they also risk some degree of loss.

That's their choice.

If they control the transactions completely ~ using clerks who wait at counters and go in the back to find the product to sell, and then accept the cash, etc. the risk of loss is substantially reduced. Their costs will increase obviously, but it's their choice.

When the merchant uses modern methods and understands there are risks ~ that customers may make mistakes, or thieves may easily steal from the open shelves ~ then the question of punishment for both mistakes and theft takes a different focus.

We should not expect a hanging in these cases, nor should children be taken from their families.

Quite possibly the smart manager using the latest sales methods will, when he catches the occasional stray, accept payment when it is offered.

At the same time EVERYBODY knows there's more loss on the back dock as that stuff comes out of the truck than there is loss in the front end ~ and it's the manager and his most trusted employees who are probably looting the business.

40 posted on 10/29/2011 8:16:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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