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1 posted on 10/31/2011 11:26:14 AM PDT by opentalk
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Amazingly, our local NBC affiliate reported it as an “as yet unverified bombshell.” So if it’s not verified, why report it? (As if we didn’t know...)


2 posted on 10/31/2011 11:29:21 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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This reminds me of similar allegations that were levied just 20 years ago against Justice Clarence Thomas who, of course, was accused of sexual harassment himself.”

Um....and then there was that rape allegations against Slick made by named source K. Wiley (shortly after her husbands death).


3 posted on 10/31/2011 11:31:03 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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“Sexual harrassement” is defined as anything any woman says it is, depending on her mood, the time, place, how much money the woman can get for making the accusation or if she can get promoted.
Now that you know the guidelines, go forth and sin no more.


4 posted on 10/31/2011 11:31:28 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Clarence Thomas redux.


5 posted on 10/31/2011 11:31:37 AM PDT by Sparky21555
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“I’m not going to specify who we spoke to”

No, why would you? It might ruin the gossip.


6 posted on 10/31/2011 11:32:33 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Remember all the media hype over Larry Sinclair and Soetoro? I don’t either.


8 posted on 10/31/2011 11:34:43 AM PDT by theymakemesick
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Only one operation runs a hatchet job like this.
Media Matters.
John Podesta, white courtesy phone.
9 posted on 10/31/2011 11:35:14 AM PDT by Zathras
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He’s going to “give the sources protection”.

These women apparently signed an agreement, took money, agreed there was nothing wrong admitted, and agreed they would not discuss this.

But years later they will violate their agreements and slime Cain with reporters as “anonymous sources”.

I’m guessing Cain comes out of this fine.


12 posted on 10/31/2011 11:36:49 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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I’m shocked, I tell you. Did he give them oral sex?

I’m waiting breathlessly for the details!

Film at 11.


13 posted on 10/31/2011 11:37:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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This is a prime example of why women should stay at home. Barefoot and pregnant. Doing the chores. Doing the milkman. Ya let ‘em out and they cause all kinds of hate and discontent.


15 posted on 10/31/2011 11:38:03 AM PDT by bigheadfred (wogga wogga)
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Something that was vetted and settled 15 years ago is not a bombshell.


19 posted on 10/31/2011 11:42:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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From the imnterview:

“HABERMAN: I think- I think it’s a legitimate question. But, I think as we said in the story, there were, you know, gestures. There were comments. There were certain suggestive overtures. For instance, things that made these women uncomfortable, made them angry and made them feel as if it was untoward.”

A gesture and comments? That’s it? Mighty thin stuff.


22 posted on 10/31/2011 11:43:47 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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And yet the same MSM was totally uncurious about PROVEN associations between Obama and radical communists, socialists, leftists, and islamists at the same point in time in 2007. Which poses a greater threat to our nation? A known communist in the white house? Or a man of high moral standing facing anonymous allegations of, most likely, miniscule overall import?


27 posted on 10/31/2011 11:45:42 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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The Overseers on the Democrat Plantation aren’t happy with the Runaway Slave Herman Cain...


28 posted on 10/31/2011 11:45:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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I'm not going to specify who we spoke to......I think I'm going to let the sources have protection.

IMO, that is friggin' criminal. That's like saying: "Someone told me you beat your wife and molest your children, but I promised I wouldn't tell who told me". Arggghhhh......
30 posted on 10/31/2011 11:47:04 AM PDT by no dems (Gingrich/Cain: The Dream Ticket in 2012 !)
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*THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE MOST POORLY RESEARCHED ARTICLES* based on a sound clip by one the authors where it is said, “the two women were given 5-figure settlements to LEAVE the organization.” This happens all over the US hundreds of times per day - it’s called a CONFIDENTIAL SEPARATION AGREEMENT, whereby you sever with the disaffected employee(s) for some accrued vacation with a few weeks pay to get the individual to go away quietly.

You do this to remove bad apples from the barrel. It serves no one to let these employees continue and the separation payment can easily be 5-figures if you look at the math:

- Base Salary = $8,000 per month

- Accrued Vacation = 2 weeks or $4,000

- Total severance with a month of pay and acrued vacation = $12,000

The payment has nothing to do with admission or denial or behavior - it about removing corrosive employees. As a businessperson, you must make these arrangements to preserve morale.


35 posted on 10/31/2011 11:50:12 AM PDT by CreviceTool ( Obama is standing above the country above above the world, he is sort of a God = Evan Thomas)
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As I read it, this issue is basically summed up as follows:

On one side (Politico) you have this:


We have a report where we know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago.

They, at this point, are simply reported very vaguely by Politico: “episodes that left the women upset and offended” and “physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable," and that, "they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”

We have allegation of payoff in the five figure range, but again, nothing specific. IMHO, until the accusers come up with something much more specific, like names, dates and places, it is going to continue to be nothing more than an attemted smear campaign from my perspecitve.

Maybe Politico has more...time will tell, but at this point, it's not out there.


...and then, on the other side (Herman Cain's) you have this:
Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors through the entire time of Cain’s position at the Restruant Association, said they hadn’t heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.

“I have never heard that. It would be news to me,” said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. “He’s very gracious.”

Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it.

“That’s a shock to me,” Fassler said. “As an officer during all of Herman’s years there as a paid executive… none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.”

Fassler — who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cain’s June 1999 departure but remained on the board’s executive committee — described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was “not within his character” to make unwanted advances. “It’s not what I know of him,” Fassler said.

Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.

Cain was “extremely professional” and “fair” to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she “worked fairly closely with” Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.

Cain’s treatment of women was “the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great,” said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, “he had unanimous support in the room.”


Very specific denials and testinomies to Cain's professionalism and behavior from very specific people over very specific time frames which would have covered the events in question.

So, at this pont, who you gonna believe?

Pretty clear that someone is grabbing at straws. Cain clearly admitted that the accusations had been made but that the inquiry proved them baseless and without merit. He also indicated that he personally was unaware of any "settlement" and that if thre had been any, he hoped it wans't for much because he neved did anything wrong.

36 posted on 10/31/2011 11:50:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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I wish these people would spend equal time on barack obama’s intentional hiding of his college grades.


39 posted on 10/31/2011 11:52:15 AM PDT by bergmeid
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Its a shame they aren’t so eager to expose all of Barry Hussein Dunham Soetero Obama’s treasonous activities.


42 posted on 10/31/2011 11:53:11 AM PDT by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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Honestly, who cares? The people who don’t like Herman Cain will believe it. The people who like Herman Cain won’t believe it. It’s not going to change anybody’s vote.

It’s 15 to 20 year old news. Better to get it out of the way now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was actually folks on the Conservative side who leaked it - other Republican campaigns who are frightened by Cain’s ascendency. They expect most people to blame it on Leftists. But it’s actually the other Republicans on the ticket who get the most advantage from info like this at this time.


44 posted on 10/31/2011 11:53:24 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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