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Governor Jindal Stirring Unrest among Louisiana Conservatives
American Thinker ^ | 11/01/2011 | Pat Austin

Posted on 11/01/2011 6:47:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Even though Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal just won re-election in a landslide victory, there is a growing rumbling of discontent statewide among conservatives. While Jindal is being touted nationwide as the next great hope for the Republican Party, there are folks in Louisiana who would beg to differ. How can that be with such an overwhelming mandate? In last week's election, Jindal carried all 64 of Louisiana's parishes. What could be wrong?

Conservative discontent with Jindal centers around several issues including his bungled handling of a legislative pay raise in 2008; his sham ethics reform; and now his alignment with 37-year Democrat (and recent Republican) John Alario, whom Jindal has endorsed for President of the State Senate, to name a few.

When Bobby Jindal ran for his first term in 2007, he issued this promise:

Prohibit Legislators from giving themselves pay raises that take effect before the subsequent elections.

Any increase in salary approved by the Legislature should take effect after the next election so the public can decide who deserves that compensation.

That promise quickly crumbled in 2008, when the Louisiana legislature voted itself a huge pay raise from $16,800 a year to $37,500. The Public Affairs Research Council of Louisiana called the pay raise "absurd":

The $34,000 proposed pay raise for legislators is absurd. The increase would bring Louisiana legislators' compensation to $70,000, which is 198 percent of the average pay for part-time legislatures across the nation and 102 percent of the average pay for full-time legislatures - including per diem amounts and expense allowances.

Not bad money for a part-time job. The Louisiana legislature meets for only about three months a year. To make matters worse, the bill would grant automatic pay raises in the future without legislative or voter approval.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bobbyjindal; louisiana
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To: MEGoody

He promised to veto the pay raise then signed it right after the election. He has promised gold standard ethics laws then delivered this toothless fools gold mess we have today. Now he dumps Edward Wilson Edwards’ crony, John Alario on us a couple of days after the election. For more information go to thedeadpelican.com or moongriffon.com.

Folks, Bobby “ain’t all that”. While I knew he was going to win big time, I didn’t vote for him this go around and will not do so again.


41 posted on 11/01/2011 8:20:30 AM PDT by DryProng
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To: ken5050; Ranjit

I’ve seen it all, after all I live here and I am a working reporter that publishes a newsblog every single day. Many of the political operatives here are acquaintances of mine. There is very little that concerns politics in the state of Louisiana that I don’t see or read.

The national media doesn’t know squat about what happens here, they only know what they’re told by paid spin experts.

Jindal is a vast improvement over Blanco and even Mike Foster, who was another alleged conservative, but was no such thing. That said, I did vote for Jindal ten days ago.

Jindal has done some good things, but mainly because we conservatives here called his hand and MADE him do it.

George Bush did some good things while he was President, but does anyone here on this thread try to claim Bush was a real conservative?

Here’s a couple of threads WITH DOCUMENTATION on some the things that happened early in Jindal’s term.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2034993/posts
EDITORIAL: Still time to veto (JindalWatch® Alert)
Times Picayune ^ | June 23, 2008 | Staff

Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 4:18:05 AM by abb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2186063/posts
Louisiana’s growing state payroll strains budget (JindalWatch® Alert)
Times Picayune ^ | February 15, 2009 | Robert Travis Scott

Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:49:36 AM by abb


42 posted on 11/01/2011 8:23:59 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: DryProng

One of my favorite towns in all the state...


43 posted on 11/01/2011 8:25:26 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: org.whodat
Why did juan mccain, on advice of his legal counsel, get a sense of the senate resolution passed about his own status.

Because McCain was NOT BORN IN THE USA he was born in Panama. He is a citizen because his parents were both U.S. citizens and since he was born outside the U.S. he wanted his eligibility confirmed.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

44 posted on 11/01/2011 8:26:57 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: DryProng

RE: , I didn’t vote for him this go around and will not do so again.

I gather you sat this most recent election out? Otherwise, which alternative did you vote for?


45 posted on 11/01/2011 8:28:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: DryProng
He promised to veto the pay raise then signed it right after the election.

So does Louisiana have such a thing as a "veto proof majority" and if so, did the pay raise pass by a sufficient number to be veto proof?

The other question to ask is, were there other things in this bill that Jindal would have been hard pressed to veto (i.e. some issue near and dear to the hearts of Louisiana voters)?

I'm just trying to understand, not arguing.

46 posted on 11/01/2011 8:29:44 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: commish
A distinction without a difference. I was not comparing anything I was asking a question. The answer was, he did it because he knew there was legal doubt about his status.
47 posted on 11/01/2011 8:34:22 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: MEGoody; ken5050; Ranjit; DryProng

Here’s another thread that I put up back during the Louisiana Legislative pay raise debate. Lots of alleged FReepers called me a lot of names back then.

I took it real personal.

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/2037677/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

Recall fever spreads to Jindal (JindalWatch® Alert)
Times Picayune ^ | June 28, 2008 | Robert Travis Scott

Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 2:34:27 AM by abb


48 posted on 11/01/2011 8:36:10 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, there was a Libertarian who didn’t have snowball’s chance in August. But as it turned out, I might as well have stayed home. Voters didn’t agreed with many of my choices.

One other point should be made: There was an extremely low turn-out for this election so that high percentage win was like LSU playing a junior high team. Everyone was frightened off by Bobby’s money.

Look, I am not angry with Bobby, it is just this: he is a much better talker than a doer as the national folks like Rush and Shaun will find out one day.


49 posted on 11/01/2011 8:43:08 AM PDT by DryProng
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To: Romulus
That said, I am not exactly wild about Jindal, who at this point appears to be mostly about Jindal.

Do you know of some way in which Gov. Jindal is neglecting his duties to the people of Louisiana?

50 posted on 11/01/2011 8:43:47 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: SeekAndFind

People always seem to read Jindal wrong - as either a fake or as the “next great hope”. He is neither. He is smart, loyal and a superlative administrative and support guy. He is not a leader, has no fire in the belly and only trace charisma.

As an executive he will buckle and fail in the long run.

As a cabinet or staff member he was and will be a fantastic force multiplier for a strong executive.


51 posted on 11/01/2011 8:48:27 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: rogue yam

“Do you know of some way in which Gov. Jindal is neglecting his duties to the people of Louisiana?”

Subservience to Washington government diktat during the oilspill comes to mind. That was a time for brazen defiance rather than impassioned complaint.


52 posted on 11/01/2011 8:50:56 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: abb

Many thanks..


53 posted on 11/01/2011 8:56:07 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: Psalm 144

Interesting observations on Jindal’s character. I would disagree only to suggest that he may be more of a “leader” type than you imply.

But you are absolutely correct that he doesn’t have the fire the belly for less government and lower taxes. We here in Louisiana have the documented proof of that.


54 posted on 11/01/2011 8:56:49 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

“Interesting observations on Jindal’s character. I would disagree only to suggest that he may be more of a “leader” type than you imply.”

And you may well be right. All people change, and smart people learn. Certainly he is smart. I like Jindal, but I think his strengths are best suited at HQ than on the line.


55 posted on 11/01/2011 9:03:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: abb
I live here and have followed and engaged in Louisiana politics all of my adult life and I know what I’m talking about.

I did business in LA back in the 80s & 90s and at first was surprised that LA was the only state {out of 57} that was not based on English Law and did not recognize the UCC-1 {Universal Commercial Code} form that governs leased property in the other 56 states.

LA has a special way of doing business and interstate transfer of leased property can be very different.

56 posted on 11/01/2011 9:03:27 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: USS Alaska

http://www.la-legal.com/history_louisiana_law.htm

How the Code Napoleon makes Louisiana law different


57 posted on 11/01/2011 9:08:45 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Psalm 144
Subservience to Washington government diktat during the oilspill comes to mind.

I don't recall anything like this. To what, specifically, do you refer?

58 posted on 11/01/2011 9:48:20 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Failing to implement the sandbar barriers while he waited for permission.

Don’t be obtuse.


59 posted on 11/01/2011 9:53:36 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: abb

Strictly speaking Louisiana’s present civil law stems from the Code Civil of 1808, which is largely derived from the Code Napoleon, which in turn is largely derived from unfinished codifications initiated by Louis XIV, which is based on the jus civile Roman law which applied between Roman citizens. Most western nations use some descendant of Roman law as the base for contemporary law.


60 posted on 11/01/2011 10:02:25 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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