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Senators Propose Changes to Help Rescue the USPS (Senators say it's not a bailout)
ABC News ^ | November 2, 2011 | Sunlen Miller

Posted on 11/02/2011 3:13:12 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

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Liebermann says:

“This is money they are owed. It is not a bailout."

I think he's right. People want the USPS run like a private business. Removing a burden, placed by Congress, that private businesses do not not have to carry is not a "bailout".

1 posted on 11/02/2011 3:13:17 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The Gang of Three here are NOT eliminating to the door delivery. Their rich friends in the Hamptons will continue having postal trucks run up to the man house at the compound every day!


2 posted on 11/02/2011 3:18:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Why dont they just put it back as a cabinet-level position, get rid of the unions, and put a military guy in charge of it and run it like an actual service?


3 posted on 11/02/2011 3:20:04 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The reality is that it will be impossible for the USPS to turn a profit in today’s day and age. The people that rely on it most, those in rural areas, cannot be served by Fed Ex or some private company at rates they can afford. Nor can those companies serve those areas without charging high prices.

The postal service already can’t deliver things economically at the prices they are charging due to overhead. Even cutting it sharply (layoffs, closing sites, etc) doesn’t get you there.

The question that people will have to ask is whether they want a national postal system that serves everyone at a loss, or we do close up shop. In closing up shop, you put a lot of folks out of touch.


4 posted on 11/02/2011 3:20:10 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. Stinks...it really does)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Shutting down radio, tv, and the internet will no doubt improve the post office’s bottom line.


5 posted on 11/02/2011 3:22:13 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

every government union is abusive.

privatize the usps.


6 posted on 11/02/2011 3:24:51 PM PDT by ken21
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Bullsh#t. The Postal Service is PACKED with un-needed and un-productive "help", has Union-related costs up the wazzoo (benefits and Retirement Plan), and is another fleecing of Taxpayers in a bailout to buy the Union money-laundering to the DNC plus votes.

"Bi-Partisan" (without even looking) ALWAYS includes Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, with an assorted wimpy Republican-in-name-only going along with them and being labeled "Moderate" by the State-Run-Media.

If the postal service can't function as a private enterprise, let OTHERS take it over "Privatize", and you'll see the efficiency skyrocket.

7 posted on 11/02/2011 3:25:30 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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The postal service literally will not survive unless comprehensive, legislative and administrative reforms are undertaken.”

Senator Collins, first you must answer WHY the USPS SHOULD survive.

It is an expensive and now unnecessary historical anachronism. It is going bust because it offers a service that no one needs any longer.

Physical mail, to the extent it remains, can be handled by private carriers, as can all shipping.

That is all.

You are trying to preserve the horse-and-buggy after the automobile became mass-produced.

8 posted on 11/02/2011 3:26:42 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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Cut personnel and staff 50% in the states of Maine (Collins), Massachusetts (Brown) and Connecticut (Liebermann).

Let's see how the three states do and take a metric from that experiment.

9 posted on 11/02/2011 3:27:14 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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That be 50% reduction in personnel and USPS sites.


10 posted on 11/02/2011 3:27:58 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ken21

But it’s the Teamsters at UPS, not the USPS unions, that have been out on strike in the past few decades.


11 posted on 11/02/2011 3:28:30 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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If the postal service can't function as a private enterprise, let OTHERS take it over "Privatize", and you'll see the efficiency skyrocket.

The USPS can't survive as a public or private enterprise as long as Congress continues to require they prefund retiree benefits long into the future. No other business in the country operates under that burden. Remove it, and the prospects are much brighter for the USPS. This postal crisis is an artificial Congressionally created crisis.

12 posted on 11/02/2011 3:34:03 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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They ought to lay-off half of all post-office employees, at every level, and go to every-other-day delivery ... half the customers get Monday-Wednesday-Friday delivery, the other half gets Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday.

Expenses are cut nearly in half, and the existing vehicle stock lasts twice as long.

Anyone who thinks they can’t get by without daily delivery can pay for it.


13 posted on 11/02/2011 3:34:21 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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"No other business in the country operates under that burden. Remove it, and the prospects are much brighter for the USPS"Yes; that's an Agreement that was a cave-in to the Postal Workers' Union......just like so many other bailouts that Taxpayers get stuck with nowadays.
14 posted on 11/02/2011 3:37:21 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

If a “rescue” saves the USPS pensions from getting a needed haircut, it’s a bad move.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 3:39:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
My prescription for long-term solvency:
1. Sell excess facilities
2. Bust the union
3. Reduce excessive pension costs
4. 3-day-per-week mail delivery (MWF, TTS) (thus eliminating 50% of the carriers)
5. Eliminate ludicrously inefficient walking routes (mandate curbside mailbox gangs), thus eliminating more carriers by enabling many to deliver more mail (maybe the USPS hasn't noticed, but the automobile was invented about 110 years after the Postal Service's founding, and now they even make funny little trucks!)

I'd offer my services as Postmaster General, but I'm busy running my own business with increasing efficiency; besides, I vowed forty years ago never again to work for a government.

17 posted on 11/02/2011 3:43:42 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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This postal crisis is an artificial Congressionally created crisis.

Name another kind of financial crisis that isn't. Can't wait till they take a crack at running healthcare if they can't even deliver a friggin letter.

18 posted on 11/02/2011 3:51:40 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Absolutely N O T H I N G passes through my mail box that is "required".
Now I know I am the exception, so someone "enlighten me", please.
19 posted on 11/02/2011 3:52:05 PM PDT by bksanders
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The US Postal service is one of the very few things funded by congress that has a constitutional basis and for which congress has constitutional authority.

The Constitution and the Post Office

In June 1788, the ninth state ratified the Constitution, which gave Congress the power “To establish Post Offices and post Roads” in Article I, Section 8. A year later, the Act of September 22, 1789 (1 Stat. 70), continued the Post Office and made the Postmaster General subject to the direction of the President. Four days later, President Washington appointed Samuel Osgood as the first Postmaster General under the Constitution. A population of almost four million was served by 75 Post Offices and about 2,400 miles of post roads.

The Post Office received two one-year extensions by the Acts of August 4, 1790 (1 Stat. 178), and March 3, 1791 (1 Stat. 218). The Act of February 20, 1792 (1 Stat. 232), continued the Post Office for another two years and formally admitted newspapers to the mails, gave Congress the power to establish post routes, and prohibited postal officials from opening letters. Later legislation enlarged the duties of the Post Office, strengthened and unified its organization, and provided rules for its development. The Act of May 8, 1794 (1 Stat. 354), continued the Post Office indefinitely.

The Post Office moved from Philadelphia in 1800 when Washington, D.C., became the seat of government.


20 posted on 11/02/2011 3:53:09 PM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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