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Terror plot in Gainsville, or entrapment?
Associated Press ^ | 11/03/11 | Bluestien, Greg

Posted on 11/03/2011 2:21:25 PM PDT by ScoutLaw

GAINESVILLE, Ga. (AP) — In the violent underground novel "Absolved," right-wing militia members upset about gun control make war against the U.S. government. This week, federal prosecutors accused four elderly Georgia men of plotting to use the book as a script for a real-life wave of terror and assassination involving explosives and the highly lethal poison ricin. The four suspected militia members allegedly boasted of a "bucket list" of government officials who needed to be "taken out"; talked about scattering ricin from a plane or a car speeding down a highway past major U.S. cities; and scouted IRS and ATF offices, with one man saying, "We'd have to blow the whole building like Timothy McVeigh." Federal investigators said they had them under surveillance for at least seven months, infiltrating their meetings at a Waffle House, homes and other places, before finally arresting them Tuesday, just days after discovering evidence they were trying to extract ricin from castor beans. "While many are focused on the threat posed by international violent extremists, this case demonstrates that we must also remain vigilant in protecting our country from citizens within our own borders who threaten our safety and security," said U.S. Attorney Sally Quillian Yates. The four gray-haired men — Frederick Thomas, 73; Dan Roberts, 67; Ray Adams, 65; and Samuel Crump, 68 — appeared in federal court Wednesday without entering a plea and were jailed for a bail hearing next week. They apparently had trouble hearing the judge, some of them cupping their ears. Thomas and Roberts were charged with conspiring to buy an explosive device and an illegal silencer. Prosecutors would not say whether the men actually obtained the items. Adams and Crump were charged with conspiring to make a biological toxin.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: frame; wot
I haven't seen this before, salon.com, usually awful admits the problems with this here:

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/02/fbi_entraps_old_white_guys_in_terror_sting_just_like_they_do_to_young_muslim_men/singleton/#comments

Thoughts?

1 posted on 11/03/2011 2:21:32 PM PDT by ScoutLaw
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To: ScoutLaw

“They apparently had trouble hearing the judge, some of them cupping their ears.”

The mental picture I have....


2 posted on 11/03/2011 2:28:24 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: ScoutLaw

These guys are NOT “elderly.”


3 posted on 11/03/2011 2:29:56 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Winstons Julia

If the defendant’s had hearing difficulties, the court is required to “accommodate their disability” and allowing them to cup their hands by their ears does not meet the Americans With Disabilities Act requirements.

ATF is as bad as Homeland Security if they really were correctly quoted as the source for the following statement:
“and a bean obtained by the informant tested positive for ricin, prosecutors said.”

All castor beans test positive for ricin, if you have sufficiently sensitive testing equipment.

Why do castor beans have ricin? Because they grow that way!


4 posted on 11/03/2011 3:52:59 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Ax

I’m more worried they are patsies


5 posted on 11/03/2011 3:53:22 PM PDT by ScoutLaw (TLHFCKOCTBCR. Too long for a tag, but living Scout Law since 1974.)
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To: ScoutLaw

“...infiltrating their meetings at a Waffle House...”
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Nothing good ever happens at waffle house.


6 posted on 11/03/2011 3:56:17 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: ScoutLaw

“...The four gray-haired men; Frederick Thomas, 73; Dan Roberts, 67; Ray Adams, 65; and Samuel Crump, 68 appeared in federal court Wednesday without entering a plea...”
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I just can’t help but think about some old rednecks sitting around talking about things they coulda, shoulda, and woulda, done...
if they weren’t all in walkers and wheelchairs.


7 posted on 11/03/2011 4:01:08 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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Celebrate Jim's Birthday!

Click On The Balloons And Party!

8 posted on 11/03/2011 4:10:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yeah, just remember when you are sitting about, bullshiiting (forgive the vulgarity) the Justice Dept is listening.


9 posted on 11/04/2011 6:49:48 AM PDT by ScoutLaw (TLHFCKOCTBCR. Too long for a tag, but living Scout Law since 1974.)
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