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To: NoLibZone
Whatever it is, I think it's bad advice for Cain to simply ignore or blame the media for these charges.

I hope these charges are not true. But if it's not true, then Cain should be able to successfully show some kind of facts that counter the lies.

However, if any of this were true the best thing Cain could have done from the get go would have been to belly up, admit the wrong doing, and show that he's changed his heart and actions. But we're now down the road of denial. I hope this stuff isn't true but if any of it is, at this point, I think he's got a problem.

37 posted on 11/07/2011 5:25:48 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
But if it's not true, then Cain should be able to successfully show some kind of facts that counter the lies.

If they are indeed lies, how does one do that, exactly?

If it never happened, what kind of "facts" would convince you otherwise?

55 posted on 11/07/2011 5:36:27 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: PapaNew

I heard four accounts where PapaNew molested young women.

How are you going to deal with this set of facts? You have a real problem now, based on your logic.


59 posted on 11/07/2011 5:40:22 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: PapaNew

If this stuff is true, it would be fatal.

BTW...... denial is not a road, it’s a river.


64 posted on 11/07/2011 5:43:03 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: PapaNew

If the charges are false, all Cain can do is say so and say he will not respond any further.

There is no way to “prove” any of this one way or the other, and it is long past time for us and our candidates to stop jumping just because the LSM says “jump.”

The Dems set the bar and were fine with a rapist/serial sexual assaulter in the White House. Do I want that in our candidate? No. But in the meantime, while we figure stuff out, they have lost any grounds whatsoever for trying to claim we have to prove anything.


76 posted on 11/07/2011 5:54:12 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: PapaNew
...show some kind of facts that counter the lies.

Like what, exactly? Negative proofs are famously hard to come by. She says that they were alone, no one else to confirm or deny her story. So, the setup is this: who do you believe? It's the classic he said/she said. No way to affirmatively prove, or disprove.

86 posted on 11/07/2011 6:03:35 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: PapaNew
But if it's not true, then Cain should be able to successfully show some kind of facts that counter the lies.

That's the beauty of these kinds of allegations. After 15 years, it's difficult to come up with objective evidence that something did or did not happen. Therefore, it comes down to credibility and inference.

I am not convinced that her tail is true. I am also not convinced of the denial - although it has the strength of directness on its side.

I am reserving judgment, but am inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to Cain.

106 posted on 11/07/2011 6:51:14 PM PST by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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