Appeals court upholds Obama health care law

Associated Press ^ | Nov 8, 11:38 AM EST | NEDRA PICKLER

[Mechanicos]

DC Appeals Court Rules Obamacare Constitutional.

[KeyLargo]

[goldi]

Do not count on it.

[mo]

these are the very tyrannies the Bill of Rights is supposed to protect.

We have some interesting tomes coming along...

[Cheerio]

NEVER EVER rely on the courts to overthrow bad laws.

When he was running for president, George Bush called the McCain-Feingold ban on soft money a suicidal move for Republicans. His conservative supporters hated the bill and never forgave McCain. Yet as president Bush signed it, merely complaining that the bill was “flawed,” but those parts he didn’t like would likely be shot down by the Supreme Court. By signing it Bush could look bipartisan at a time when he was attracting major criticism for his actions leading to the pending Iraq war.

[CharlesWayneCT]

and yields to the imperative that Congress be free to forge national solutions to national problems

I don't know, that sounds pretty stupid to me. Under that argument, Congress could do anything they wanted, since everything can be called a national problem.

Which suit was this?

[sickoflibs]

Do not count on a 5-4?

[goldi]

Nope. I think the majority of them will go for it.

[sickoflibs]

RE :"Nope. I think the majority of them will go for it."

I didnt specify which the 5 of the 9 would decide.

[goldi]

Well, you don’t have to. A “conservative” Washington appeals court voted in favor of Obamacare. That should tell you something.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Laurence H. Silberman is not a conservative. He is an insider. He has played more roles in Washington than most Beltway bandits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Silberman

Best bet is that he will always vote in favor of the government, and the more government, the better.

[tnlibertarian]

“The right to be free from federal regulation is not absolute and yields to the imperative that Congress be free to forge national solutions to national problems,”

They are right. It is not absolute. And the exceptions are clearly outlined in Congress' enumerated powers. If they are fee to forge national solutions to whatever they deem to be a national problem, then they are not constrained at all by the Constitution. If the Supreme Court upholds this ruling, then Congress will be allowed to do whatever they want. At that point, we would have an extra-constitutional government.

[EBH]

I am going to ask the stupid question...

when did healthcare become a national problem?

[raygunfan]

when liberals and ‘progressive’ anti americans said it was/is.....

[mwl8787]

The USSC pays a lot of attention to Silberman and to the DC Circuit on constitutional issues.

This is not good.

[GlockThe Vote]

This country has become little more than a fascist ponzi scheme w the citizens as useful idiots and drones.

[GlockThe Vote]

I think the fix is in on ObamaCare TBH. This country is finished.

[Pox]

Perhaps, but if the Supreme Court decides to uphold the psychotic reasoning that this is allowed under the warped interpretation of the “commerce clause”, I am of the opinion the beginning of the second American Revolution will commence.

[GlockThe Vote]

Again - where is the GOP on this? You barely hear a peep from them.

TBH - I think the GOP in DC loves ObamaCare since at some point they will control the levers of power over the Health Care Industrial complex being built up.

[noiseman]

"The right to be free from federal regulation is not absolute and yields to the imperative that Congress be free to forge national solutions to national problems,” Judge Laurence Silberman"

Did anyone else catch the deceptive nature of this statement? He's creating a classic straw man. The judge's statement portrays the question before the courts as "Is there any area of our lives that is rightly subject to federal regulation?" when the actual question is "Is there any area of our lives that IS NOT subject to federal regulation?" Two entirely different questions and I suspect the judge knows it, unless he is a complete idiot.

[DannyTN]

"Kagan needs to recuse herself before this goes to SCOTUS.
But she won't.

I'd love to see a GOP landslide in 2012 with enough individuals with guts to IMPEACH Kagan for lying during the confirmation hearings and refusing to recuse herself.