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Ohio voters reject restrictions on collective bargaining, AP projects
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Posted on 11/08/2011 6:37:59 PM PST by Perdogg

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: americanpravda; asspress; bargaining; buttociatedpress; collective; ohio; unions; zogbyism
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1 posted on 11/08/2011 6:38:01 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Let the layoffs begin!


2 posted on 11/08/2011 6:39:58 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Perdogg

Live Results:

http://www.13abc.com/story/15768073/election-results


3 posted on 11/08/2011 6:40:14 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Perdogg

Let the layoffs begin...


4 posted on 11/08/2011 6:40:48 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: Bosco

Great minds think alike!


5 posted on 11/08/2011 6:41:32 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: Perdogg

Eff ‘em. Enjoy The Obamaville. Idiots.....


6 posted on 11/08/2011 6:41:51 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Perdogg

morons


7 posted on 11/08/2011 6:42:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Perdogg
Damn it. Traditions are still strong.

I hope that doesn't cause trouble for us here with Paul Scott's recall.

8 posted on 11/08/2011 6:43:20 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Perdogg
good grief, looks like they passed every tax increase.
9 posted on 11/08/2011 6:43:25 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

WEWSWEWS NewsChannel5

BREAKING NEWS: AP says voters rejected Issue 2 #OHvote http://5.wews.com/oU4


10 posted on 11/08/2011 6:44:23 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Ohio’s tax base cannot support it. Statewide taxpayer funded jobs will be getting whacked. Whatever


11 posted on 11/08/2011 6:44:41 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Perdogg

MSNBC is overjoyed.


12 posted on 11/08/2011 6:45:15 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Perdogg

Crap, now they will send the brownshirts back to Wisconsin again.


13 posted on 11/08/2011 6:45:19 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: Perdogg
If true, the only reason is that the unions could focus like a laser on this one election.

Kasich should resubmit it and have it on the ballot in 2012, and every state should have it on the ballot. The thugs can't be everywhere next year.

14 posted on 11/08/2011 6:45:49 PM PST by paul in cape
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To: Perdogg

So did they make educated votes or vote because they are union and had too and don’t contribute they’re union loyality to racial wars incited by Obama of black people pulling white people out of they’re cars and beating the crap out of them?Or they just want to be like Ca.? and very broke?

Or they misunderstood how to vote?

Or Obama SEIU and Hoffa cheated?

Or they believed that firefighters and teachers would lose jobs and no safety would entail and all puppies and kittens would be killed?


15 posted on 11/08/2011 6:46:01 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Perdogg

Let the Unions rape them off as they desire....


16 posted on 11/08/2011 6:46:45 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Wisconsinlady

What a shame. People voting for their own demise.


17 posted on 11/08/2011 6:48:12 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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18 posted on 11/08/2011 6:48:37 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Those Firefighters and Teachers most certainly will lose their jobs now.


19 posted on 11/08/2011 6:48:37 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Perdogg
A Pyrrhic victory for the OH rats and their unions. Their laughter and celebrations will soon turn to sadness and tears.
20 posted on 11/08/2011 6:50:45 PM PST by JPG (The loons at OWS will soon be at each others throats.)
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To: Perdogg

Sigh. Time to get a job in my own state. We cannot afford to support Ohio’s spend-a-holic party.


21 posted on 11/08/2011 6:51:12 PM PST by madison10
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To: paul in cape

I think Ohioans are dumber than rocks when it comes to how to vote on these issues. They probably thought a NO vote meant no, it wouldn’t be repealed. The thugs saw to it that the voters were confused. Not to worry, Kasich and company need to rewrite the bill and pass it again - or lay the union parasites off - whichever is easier. (and I’m a Buckeye. The union thugs and liars did their job of lying - now we all will pay the price.


22 posted on 11/08/2011 6:51:23 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The unions demagogued the issue by scaring voters into thinking there won’t be enough cops and firefighters if the Issue 2 passed. On a good note, Issue 3 to reject Obamacare is being passed by a wide margin.


23 posted on 11/08/2011 6:51:48 PM PST by reegs
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To: Wisconsinlady; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; ...
Crap, now they will send the brownshirts back to Wisconsin again.

Sadly, you're probably right, Wisconsinlady. This landslide victory will embolden the union thugs BIG TIME.

MSLSD's Ed Schultz is currently holding an on-camera celebration in Columbus, OH, surrounded by partying thugs holding union-printed signs of militant fists in the air. Disgusting.

WHERE are all the conservative voters in Ohio? :-(

24 posted on 11/08/2011 6:51:54 PM PST by nutmeg (Yes We CAIN !! Herman Cain 2012)
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To: JPG

Me thinks accounting isn’t their strong suit.


25 posted on 11/08/2011 6:52:22 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Perdogg

I would then implement a Christmas tree tax system to pay for this. Low earners who may need services at a higher rate pay proportionately more. Empowered workers won’t need as many services so they should pay less.


26 posted on 11/08/2011 6:53:23 PM PST by MtnClimber (Occupy Obammyville. Coming soon to a blighted urban area near you.)
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To: Catsrus

The unions dumped BIG, BIG money into the state. The ads against Issue 2 were nearly 5 to 1 compared to ads supporting Issue 1.


27 posted on 11/08/2011 6:53:42 PM PST by reegs
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To: eyedigress

Yes and Ohio broke.But Obama’s SEIU won that’s all the corrupt MSM care about.


28 posted on 11/08/2011 6:53:59 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Perdogg

Must be many voters are too dumb to realize the taxpayers just lost.


29 posted on 11/08/2011 6:54:03 PM PST by umgud
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To: eyedigress
"Those Firefighters and Teachers most certainly will lose their jobs now"

Ohio Union Members are mostly un-employed right now, EXCEPT for Government employees.

HOWEVER, they STILL vote Dem, and Union, even though the Unions drove the auto and steel industries out of Ohio and into Offshore Companies.....

Ohio (and most of the formerly-manufacturing States) are gonna learn that they can bargain for all the golden benefits and high wages they want, but there's NO MONEY to pay it....just as Kalifornia is finding out, those wonderful Government and Union wages and benefits have no INCOME-PRODUCING Taxpayers left to support them!

Bankrupting the State of Ohio is not gonna work out for them in the long run, but then, they deserve it.

30 posted on 11/08/2011 6:54:12 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Bosco

Ohio could have ended up with more money to hire more teachers just like Wisconsin did, but Ohio voters chose otherwise.


31 posted on 11/08/2011 6:55:16 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Perdogg

In the glass half full section. Obamacare got routed in Ohio!


32 posted on 11/08/2011 6:55:39 PM PST by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

It happened nationwide on November 4, 2008.


33 posted on 11/08/2011 6:56:15 PM PST by sport
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To: traditional1

I think for the most part that well rounded basic thought about where the funds originate is lost on the under 40 generation. It is ridiculous.


34 posted on 11/08/2011 6:57:54 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: umgud
Must be many voters are too dumb to realize the taxpayers just lost.

Hmmm. Tom Tancredo may have been right after all about the need for a civics literacy test for voters. Sad that the ignorant looters evidently own the ballot box in Ohio.

35 posted on 11/08/2011 6:58:33 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Perdogg
And Tea Party groups were strangely tepid during the whole campaign season.

Governor Kasich was the most subdued I've ever seen him.

36 posted on 11/08/2011 6:58:33 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: nutmeg
WHERE are all the conservative voters in Ohio

Mostly in western Ohio, where I live. :)

Truth be told, lots of those conservatives belong to police anf fire unions (and the UAW, etc). The Ohio GOP overreached when they passed SB5, and made the fatal error of including police and fire unions in the reforms; had they been left out of the changes (like in Wisconsin), this referendum would never have made the ballot.

Ignore the Lefty gloating; these reforms will be back, probably early next year, and will be passed one-by-one, which will make them much harder to repeal. In the meantime, we prepare for battle (and they can look forward to layoffs).

37 posted on 11/08/2011 6:58:43 PM PST by TonyInOhio
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To: Catsrus

They were raised dumb as rocks into believing union is the only way too live; corrupt or not.They need to vote to be a right to work state and be free people. They just don’t know anything else. They still think Cleveland could win someday.


38 posted on 11/08/2011 6:58:43 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Perdogg

I am over in Indiana and the Indianapolis mayor a Republican won. Voter turnout was horrible. The City/County council went RAT.

It also told me that if we plan to win in 2012, the Tea Party and our voters better get off their butts get out there and make sure voters understand the issues.

They need to see we haven’t retreated and we are still willing to fight back.


39 posted on 11/08/2011 6:59:10 PM PST by dforest
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Layoff’s - I have been saying it all along. Let them learn how to work within a budget and come up with some creative ideas to get along with less. I am ashamed to live in this state tonight and ashamed of my parents and neighbors who voted to repeal the bill. They had every union organization out in solidarity acting like living within your means was the end of the world. My own parents refused to debate the bill with me and when I made a point of telling them about the union guys going door to door to get votes, I was told “good, they are doing their job”..WTH?? My wages were going to PAY FOR THOSE FOLKS to canvass against something I SUPPORT. I am furious at the FIREWORKS going off in my neighborhood celebrating the bill’s defeat.


40 posted on 11/08/2011 7:00:17 PM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: reegs

Obama is pro-Occupy Protest. Occupy Protesters are pro-Rape. Biden scares voters into thinking this administration would support their pro-Rape position if voters reject socialist programs. Taxpayers will be plundered anyway.


41 posted on 11/08/2011 7:00:49 PM PST by a fool in paradise ('Are now or have you ever been a member of the tea party?' is NOT a legitimate debate question.)
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To: Bosco

No... no layoffs... the next thing is going to be a clamoring to raise taxes to support their socialist state... but businesses will move and their state bomb out, go bankrupt... I can see it now, right to work states VS unionized states, another civil war commin’ down the pike...


42 posted on 11/08/2011 7:01:05 PM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Or they believed that firefighters and teachers would lose jobs and no safety would entail and all puppies and kittens would be killed?
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The massive fear mongering was endless and brutal.

The language on the ballot was very clear as in : do you want to keep the law ?
Yes if you want to keep
No if you want to repeal

My opinion is that people listened to the fear mongering first and foremost


43 posted on 11/08/2011 7:01:20 PM PST by simplesimon (Never kick a cow turd on a hot day ~ Hank Williams Jr on the Glenn Beck radio show 10-12-2011)
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To: TonyInOhio
Truth be told, lots of those conservatives belong to police and fire unions

this is what I said much more bluntly and crude in my last post,sorry.

44 posted on 11/08/2011 7:01:20 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: dps.inspect

Tennessee is always open.


45 posted on 11/08/2011 7:02:28 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Perdogg

That is the end of Ohio. Hello Ohifornia.


46 posted on 11/08/2011 7:02:46 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: re_nortex

“Tom Tancredo may have been right after all about the need for a civics literacy test for voters.”

And a poll tax wouldn’t hurt either.


47 posted on 11/08/2011 7:02:52 PM PST by crusader71
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
National Review had an excellent article last week as to why this would fail. A large part of it was execution.

The voters support the concept with 57% in polls. However, the legislature passed the law in one big package. Kasich wanted it passed in bits and pieces. So the repeal was the law that passed in one big package. It is confusing to voters and anything they don't fully understand, they vote "no".

Then the Sec of State (a Repub) agreed that the vote to repeal the law would be a "no" vote - the go to vote for the confused voter. Kasich had urged the Sec. of State to make the "yes" vote the one to repeal the law. The Sec of State said he was trying to be fair.

Anyway, National Review does a great job of explaining how the Repubs botched this from the beginning.

Voters are really clueless. It is a wonder that we have come this far as a country concerning the voters populating the fruited plain.

By the way, I love your tag line.

48 posted on 11/08/2011 7:03:09 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Actually, it’s not your tag line, but your handle.


49 posted on 11/08/2011 7:04:19 PM PST by Dave W
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To: dps.inspect

When they raise taxes, businesses and those evil job creating rich folks will leave. Unbelievable demonstration of societal suicide.


50 posted on 11/08/2011 7:04:53 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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