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I SUPPORT HERMAN CAIN
boblonsberry.com ^ | 11/09/11 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 11/09/2011 5:31:58 AM PST by shortstop

It’s a he said, she said.

And I side with him.

I liked Herman Cain before this current difficulty, and I like him now.

I don’t believe he did it. And even if he did do it, I’m not bothered enough to dump him.

The worst-case scenario is that 15 years ago he propositioned some women. If so, that’s between him and his wife.

But I don’t believe this is about passion.

This is about politics.

And this isn’t just a high-tech lynching, it is a coup by innuendo. Because Herman Cain isn’t really the victim here.

We are.

As the reporters race around hyperventilating, trying to bring this man down – pushed on by whatever campaign orchestrated this – the intent is to cheat democracy.

This isn’t about workplace harassment.

This is about stealing an election.

Either Barack Obama or Rick Perry or Mitt Romney, threatened by Herman Cain’s success in the polls, decided to play the nuclear card. And these accusations – real or trumped up – were leaked for the purpose of removing Herman Cain as a candidate.

Sure, that hurts him.But nowhere near as much as it hurts those of us who would have voted for him.

See, the real point is that this information and this controversy were manufactured to make sure Herman Cain didn’t become the president of the United States. The whole thing was cooked up to take an option away from voters.

That makes voters the victims.

As well as our Republic and its electoral system. When the system is cheated or manipulated, we have been oppressed, just as surely as if some palace intrigue had poisoned the prince. When you take a candidate away from the voters, you are taking freedom away from the voters. You are subverting the Constitution and fundamentally damaging our way of life and governance. If there is no choice, your vote is meaningless.

It’s a big deal.

Now, let’s get to the accusations.

First, an accusation without an accuser or a specific claim, is bull crud. Nameless women claiming unspecified things are not credible. Period.

Now, as to the bleach blonde who came out with Gloria Allred. She doesn’t seem credible. I can’t say if she’s telling the truth or not, I wasn’t there. But her background and her story raise real questions.

She seems to be a schemer, always working an angle. Her life seems to hop from controversy to controversy.

That doesn’t mean she’s lying, but it doesn’t help her credibility.

Neither does the way she told her story.

She claims that after dinner and drinks, Herman Cain drove her someplace and then put his hand on her thigh and attempted to slide it up her dress, and that he tried to push her head toward his lap.

Maybe those things happened. Like I said, I wasn’t there. He says no, she says yes.But it strikes me as odd that those things would happen in a vacuum.

Typically, I think the hand up the dress comes after a fair amount of kissing and boob squeezing. There is an order of escalation to these things, as I understand, and I think human experience shows there’s a fair amount of logic in that first base-second base-third base-home plate progression we heard about when we were young.

Further, I think the push-the-head-toward-the-lap thing makes more sense when one or both people are in some stage of at least partial undress.

Don’t make me get graphic.

But the notion that this guy tries to get somewhere with this girl and his play is to immediately go gyno or try to physically suggest some intimate act, I’m not sure that is the most likely course of events. Perhaps. But more commonly, I believe there is an escalating pattern of seduction and arousal. Physical contact between two people tends to build, and liberties are built upon other liberties.Maybe a guy would just get grabby like that, but experience would seem to teach him that he’s not going to get anywhere that way.

I don’t want to be crude or inappropriate, but in the context of two folks together alone in a car, and one of those folks is hoping to get something sexual from the other, there probably are some typical patterns of events.

The events described by Herman Cain’s accuser do not fit those patterns. Quite possibly, she’s leaving out part of the story – that they were making out and were engaged in some level of physical intimacy – or she’s lying. The first would indicate that she was a willing participant, to a point, and only objected when that point was about to be passed – which is a normal human interaction, not an act of sexual harassment.

Or she’s lying.

Which is, to my way of thinking, more likely.

Personally, I believe Herman Cain.

His sense of moral indignation seems real. The passion of his denunciation of these claims strikes me as genuine.

I believe him.

I know that is subjective, and others might feel otherwise, but I believe him.

And I support him.

And I hope I get the chance to vote for him.

And I hope that we are smart enough not to let this media circus derail us or destroy him. I hope we can recognize an ambush when we see it. I hope we can be smart enough not to be manipulated by politicians who are afraid of this man’s ideas.

If they want to fight Herman Cain, let them do so. But let them do it fair and square.

And don’t let them hide behind women.

And their unlikely claims.


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To: wintertime

Great pic, but did you know his wife is a Democrat? That was a bit troubling.


21 posted on 11/09/2011 5:50:24 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Cain Train is rollin'!)
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To: RoadTest

Even if they are “useful idiots” or just simply deluded by the promises of the communist left,

I still so despise liberals, their tactics, and their “by any means necessary” approach to enslaving the rest of us

that I’m not willing to give them a pass for being ignorant about the cause they are supporting.

And then there are those who KNOW what they are doing.

The commies require a violent revolution to implement their system. Here’s to praying they get slapped back so hard they don’t consider trying it again for a LONG time.


22 posted on 11/09/2011 5:51:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: shortstop
Oh Herman Cain will OVERCOME the present tempest-in-a-teapot just as he has OVERCOME cancer, poverty, the corporate world, and RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.

The DEMOCRAT POLITICAL MACHINE and the DEMOCRAT PROPAGANDA MACHINE (the MSM) will launch another BLITZKRIEG against Cain or anyone else who seriously challenges them. If they cannot find a credible or reliable excuse, they'll invent one. Do not underestimate these people.

But nevertheless:

HERMAN CAIN HAS OVERCOME!

AND

WE SHALL OVERCOME!

23 posted on 11/09/2011 5:54:03 AM PST by Savage Beast (Democrats promise the moon. They deliver Detroit.)
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To: shortstop
Obama fears Cain.

That's it in three words!

No telling how many bought and paid for trolls they plan on trotting out. Heck, the trolls will probably go on a Holiday Tour...but, we know what's really going on...it's a distraction from the left's ongoing plan of destroying America.

And, for Bamster's/Prog plan to succeed, they must bring down Cain. They tell you who they fear.

24 posted on 11/09/2011 5:55:09 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: MrB

“The commies require a violent revolution to implement their system. Here’s to praying they get slapped back so hard they don’t consider trying it again for a LONG time.”

I think they’re taking over with gradualism, but, yes, they seem to be itching for a street-fighting showdown, too.


25 posted on 11/09/2011 5:55:09 AM PST by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: shortstop

Yeah, lets look at the two women that aren’t anonymous:

Sharon Bialek - Sued another CEO for paternity and may have possibly married and annulled her marriage in order to sue him again for paternity. It looks like she lost. She went bankrupt twice in 10 years. She lived in a very affluent apartment with no means of income. Her current boyfriend is broke and yet they’re taking silk-shirted vacations to Venice. Brett Ashley and Mike Campbell.

Karen Krauhaas - She’s a complaint machine. She complained about emails that should be complained about for lack of humor rather than discrimination. She called Cain a “monster,” even though almost everyone that works for him will vouch for him.

Two other anonymous women? Who cares.


26 posted on 11/09/2011 5:55:48 AM PST by struggle
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To: Travis McGee

LOL! Man, you can just see the wheels turning and the dollar signs flashing in that image.


27 posted on 11/09/2011 5:56:02 AM PST by TADSLOS (Gov Jan Brewer has more balls than Rick Perry.)
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To: shortstop

Someone out there, maybe Obama, maybe Romney, maybe even Perry, is very very afraid of Herman Cain’s candicacy, and they are pulling out all the stops in an attempt to discredit him. I am with Cain..... don’t buy into all this crap that is being circulated.


28 posted on 11/09/2011 5:57:39 AM PST by ixtl ( You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Travis McGee
Somewhere down the line She will get whats coming, She earned it, Allred as well. Not a bit of care for Cain's wife. Step all over Her. Beyond contempt.
Everyday the stories un ravel a bit, That bimbo will not be able to keep the facts straight with out a script.
The fact that She came out in a NYC comedy club is such a farce, I can't understand why there is any credibility what so ever given to Allred or Her sock puppet.
29 posted on 11/09/2011 5:57:48 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: shortstop

Well said, thank you.


30 posted on 11/09/2011 5:58:20 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: shortstop
"All this flak must mean that we're closing in on the target"


31 posted on 11/09/2011 6:00:36 AM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: RoadTest
The "gradualists" are the Fabian socialists. They constitute most of the leadership of the 'rats. And they are PO'd at the revolutionary socialists like 0bama and his chosen cadre for "tipping their hand".
32 posted on 11/09/2011 6:01:06 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Designer
So...in your mind there are only the two choices?

I would say so, and I have been a vocal critic of Newt for years. I have real problems with Newt, but the other candidates I would have supported have faded badly.

33 posted on 11/09/2011 6:02:03 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: shortstop
The best thing that could happen in tonight's debate is for each of the other candidates to refuse to discuss these allegations of harassment. We collectively should shift the national conversation to the things that really matter.
34 posted on 11/09/2011 6:02:29 AM PST by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: shortstop

In seeking the truth I ponder over and over, why did these women wait until now to make these public accusations? Cain ran for office several years ago, didn’t he? Why not then? My conclusion: this time around the financial temptation is irresistable.


35 posted on 11/09/2011 6:04:30 AM PST by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“even delivered divorce papers to the first while she was in the hospital for cancer.”

Absolutely NOT TRUE.


36 posted on 11/09/2011 6:07:28 AM PST by battletank
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To: shortstop

heard a little jingle today, sung to the tune of 10 little indians.... 1 little, 2 little, 3 herman cain accusers, 4 little, 5 little, 6 herman cain accusers, 7 little, 8 little, 9 herman cain accusers, hermans been a bad boy....

and the radio hosts just started ripping on the people performing this obvious sham of a hit job..... Now, we need every single freeper gal to send an email to the hillary, romney and fubo campaigns, accusing herman of sexual harassment... not 10, not 100, not 1000, but tens of thousands of complaints.....and don’t forget to copy the msm..


37 posted on 11/09/2011 6:08:06 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: frposty

Update to my own post.

Why did the ladies go public now? Now, a couple of minutes after the earlier post, I’ve got a new idea:

The women are totally lying, and they’ve simply been paid to make these accusations. They are mercenaries in the war to destroy Cain’s candidacy.


38 posted on 11/09/2011 6:08:14 AM PST by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: battletank

I can’t remember the details it’s been a lot of years, maybe he came to see to and only wanted to talk about the divorce. I am sure the details are on the net somewhere.


39 posted on 11/09/2011 6:17:07 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: frposty

To the left, ANY means necessary are justified in achieving their goals.

If communists will willingly slaughter a majority of the population, or completely eliminate certain segments of the population, a little character assassination isn’t inconceivable.


40 posted on 11/09/2011 6:18:07 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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