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Penn State scandal dwarfs others in college sports
Miami Herald ^ | November 9, 2011 | Ralph D. Russo

Posted on 11/09/2011 2:00:32 PM PST by QT3.14

Scandals of all kinds have tarnished college sports for decades, though what is unfolding at Penn State is hard to compare to any of them.

It's simply on another scale, both in terms of the charges - former Nittany Lions defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky is accused of serial child sex abuse, which he denies - and the other person whom the case is bringing down, Joe Paterno.

The 84-year-old Paterno announced Wednesday he will retire at the end of this season, though the school's board of trustees might not let him coach even that long.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/09/2493376/penn-state-scandal-dwarfs-others.html#ixzz1dFPqKATf

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: paterno; pedstate; psu; scandal; sexabuse

1 posted on 11/09/2011 2:00:32 PM PST by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Monumental institutional FAIL by those whose concern, above all else, was to protect a money-making football program.

Hideous lapse of judgement by Paterno and other enablers, while kids got raped.


2 posted on 11/09/2011 2:02:20 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: QT3.14

Pure teaser.
There are no dwarfs or midgets anywhere in this story.


3 posted on 11/09/2011 2:05:20 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Senator Goldwater
"Hideous lapse of judgement..."

It certainly makes one think about that very fine line where the failure to take any action becomes itself, an overt act.

4 posted on 11/09/2011 2:07:27 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: QT3.14

PS covered for Michael Mann too.


5 posted on 11/09/2011 2:07:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: QT3.14
Interesting that the Miami Herald would make this observation, U. Miami being the home of many past college sports scandals.

I'm going to guess the murder of the Baylor basketball center about a decade ago probably would be the previous champ but and then there was the point-shaving scandals of the 50s.

6 posted on 11/09/2011 2:08:25 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: humblegunner
"There are no dwarfs or midgets anywhere in this story."

Au contraire 'gunner.

This story is all about very small men.

7 posted on 11/09/2011 2:08:51 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Yes there are others to blame as well.
How many other college football teams turned a blind eye to the rape of young men at JoePA?
And it looks like Nebraska is coming back this weekend to offer more support at Pedo State.
Yep, guilt by association.......


8 posted on 11/09/2011 2:11:32 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: OrangeHoof

Buying players drinks at a bar us the same as enabling another to sodomize children over the course of several years?


9 posted on 11/09/2011 2:13:26 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Yes)
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To: QT3.14

It’s OJ times 100.


10 posted on 11/09/2011 2:13:30 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

I haven’t seen any article that lists the ages of the victims. How “young” are they?


11 posted on 11/09/2011 2:14:25 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

And where is the word, CRIME, used in these allegations? Haven’t seen the word, CRIME, used in the reporting on the networks on this one.


12 posted on 11/09/2011 2:14:30 PM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: OrangeHoof
Interesting that the Miami Herald would make this observation, U. Miami being the home of many past college sports scandals.

I eluded to the 1987 game when Penn State upset Miami in the Fiesta Bowl, how at the time that game was the ultimate battle between "Good and Evil."

13 posted on 11/09/2011 2:15:19 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

generally between the ages of 10 and 15 I believe.


14 posted on 11/09/2011 2:15:41 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: QT3.14
Jim Tressel and Ohio State look like a bunch of pikers. A couple tattoos and some ‘walkin’ around money’ for some jerseys VS pedophilia and homosexual rape.
15 posted on 11/09/2011 2:16:50 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: QT3.14

I don’t think any other college scandal will have as big an impact as this does to Penn State.

The outrage generated is growing to a fevered pitch, and I’m afraid there is the possibility of violence. The Westboro Baptist Church from Topeka will demonstrate before the game on Saturday, and that sure won’t help.

I used to live in once Happy Valley and my son has two degrees from PSU. Everyone is just sick about the coverup.

The game on Saturday should be cancelled, and forfeited.


16 posted on 11/09/2011 2:23:29 PM PST by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: QT3.14

Paterno won’t make it to the end of the season. There’s a regents meeting on Friday...he’ll be relieved of his position. Even if he somehow survives, how does Penn State allow him to go on the road, to Ohio State and Wisconsin no less?


17 posted on 11/09/2011 2:24:09 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Monterrosa-24

The youngest one was ten. The one raped in the shower witnessed by the grad assistant.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 2:24:50 PM PST by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I wonder if Penn State wasn’t 7-1 and leading their Division in the Big Ten, if the season would have been cancelled?


19 posted on 11/09/2011 2:26:21 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

That’s what I was thinking. How can anyone even equate some young athlete being given a new flat-screen compared to this horrendous child abuse that could have been stopped years earlier?


20 posted on 11/09/2011 2:27:15 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: humblegunner
“Pure teaser.
There are no dwarfs or midgets anywhere in this story”. I hate when they do that . I took my son to see a giant tire blow out event. It turned out to be a tire sale. Very disappointing.
21 posted on 11/09/2011 2:30:16 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: dfwgator

Maybe they should just cancel the rest of the season. I feel bad for the team players, but they’re already having to live with this.

Everyone feels dirty, except those who were in a position to do something about it at the time. Those faces will never be seen around town again.


22 posted on 11/09/2011 2:34:09 PM PST by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: humblegunner
Ooo ooo, midgets and dwarves? ...

Aw man, ya mean there are none? Bummer

23 posted on 11/09/2011 2:35:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: QT3.14

If the NCAA doesn’t give Penn State the death penalty then they need to publicly apologize to SMU and give them a retroactive national championship and a few hundred million dollars.


24 posted on 11/09/2011 2:37:28 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: QT3.14
I assume all the players are innocent, but I still think the game should be forfeited.

If I was on the team, I really don't know how I'd go out there and play a stupid football game with all this crap swirling around.

This isn't normal college football booster shenanigans - this is sick demented and weird. And it's just picking up steam.

25 posted on 11/09/2011 2:38:49 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

The players should be allowed to transfer after this season, given the circumstances.


26 posted on 11/09/2011 2:40:18 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: QT3.14
"This is like having a scandal in the White House. That's how big this is," said Beano Cook

Beano needs to read beyond the sportspages.

He could ask 200 dead Mexicans if the White House has any big scandals.

27 posted on 11/09/2011 2:42:08 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dfwgator

This whole Penn State sex abuse scandal is going to even more put into a bad light college football, at a time when we have been seen what I call “musical chairs” going on with college football programs going from conference to another.


28 posted on 11/09/2011 2:45:27 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Monterrosa-24; All

The 8 victims ranged in age from about 8 to 13.


29 posted on 11/09/2011 2:45:53 PM PST by QT3.14 (Trapped on Leftopia's west coast amongst defective cyborg Leftoids)
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To: QT3.14

so a homo gets into the organization and does what homos do (in a much higher incidence rate then heteros)

to avoid any liability suits in the future, the solution would be to immediately fire all homosexuals.

that should solve the majority of the problems.

after that, deal with them on a case-by-case basis... with a large vat of boiling oil and a slow moving chain


30 posted on 11/09/2011 2:46:15 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Pan_Yan
If the NCAA doesn’t give Penn State the death penalty then they need to publicly apologize to SMU and give them a retroactive national championship and a few hundred million dollars.

GMTA. Get out of my head!

And that goes for Mike Leach who was railroaded out of Texas Tech. The Red Raiders have been ho-hum without him prowling the sidelines and his napkin-sized playchart.

31 posted on 11/09/2011 2:46:15 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: dead

“This is like having a scandal in the White House. That’s how big this is,” said Beano Cook
Beano needs to read beyond the sportspages.

He could ask 200 dead Mexicans if the White House has any big scandals.”

....But than again, the White House considers 200 dead Mexicans, “no big deal”.


32 posted on 11/09/2011 2:47:25 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

What makes it even sadder, is that, including me, many people , not even Penn State fans, thought of Penn State, under Paterno, as being different from all of those other programs...they played by the rules, they exemplified good values, etc......And now it appears, all of that was a sham. No wonder people become so cynical.


33 posted on 11/09/2011 2:48:10 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: sten

so a homo gets into the organization and does what homos do (in a much higher incidence rate then heteros)

to avoid any liability suits in the future, the solution would be to immediately fire all homosexuals.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN.....................


34 posted on 11/09/2011 2:49:42 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: dfwgator

For a number of years, though I have always, always been first and formost a UConn Huskies football/basketball fan I had also supported had supported Penn State football, even friended it over at Facebook. When I went to western PA a number of years ago via Amtrack train, had a train stop in the home town of Penn State. It is a beautiful town in of itself. When I have first had heard about the news reports and development of this horrible scandal, it broke my heart.


35 posted on 11/09/2011 2:54:43 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Monterrosa-24; All
Ages and timeline
36 posted on 11/09/2011 2:54:50 PM PST by QT3.14 (Trapped on Leftopia's west coast amongst defective cyborg Leftoids)
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To: dfwgator
The players should be allowed to transfer after this season, given the circumstances.

I agree. And without penalty or sitting out a year.

Kids only have four, maybe five, years of their life to play college football. They shouldn't be forced to do it under the thunderheads brought about by a serial pedophile rapist and his enablers.

Besides, no new football players of any Division 1 quality are going to be coming into the program. They may as well mothball the program for three or four years and start again from scratch once all the trials are over.

37 posted on 11/09/2011 2:57:30 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dfwgator

Plus also, in the last few months, when as more other conferences were begining to lure Big East football teams to them, I was debating in my mine if UConn should go if the worse happens, to either the Big Ten or to the ACC. This Penn State football mess could cloud the reputation of the Big Ten.


38 posted on 11/09/2011 2:57:54 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: QT3.14
If only they would let defensive coordinators marry. /s
39 posted on 11/09/2011 3:18:46 PM PST by Oratam
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To: PeterPrinciple

I’m hoping this will create a backlash against those pushing the homosexual agenda on children. You can’t even turn on a sitcom these days without it being gay themed with child actors as part of the show. They think homosexuals prancing around is cute and cool and tolerant. Do they stop for one minute to let it sink in what it is that they do with each other before telling kids that it’s normal behavior. It’s kind of like how it’s a crime to murder a baby once it’s born but it’s A-OK to slaughter it while in the womb. Liberals have destroyed this country.


40 posted on 11/09/2011 3:19:18 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Biggirl

The Big Ten could tell Penn State to leave...and go back to having 10 members. But that would be too radical a solution.


41 posted on 11/09/2011 5:45:25 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: dead
If I was on the team, I really don't know how I'd go out there and play a stupid football game with all this crap swirling around.

Is there any way that PSU can have Paterno and McQueary on the sidelines anymore?

42 posted on 11/09/2011 6:42:40 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: dfwgator

There are two other college football teams I keep close tabs on, both SEC teams, AL and FL. The former, I hope both AL and LSU come together again in the BCS bowl championship, a replay of the recent big game. It was fun. FL was wonderful not only to Tim Tebow, now pro, but a Henendez brother, his older brother played for UConn.


43 posted on 11/10/2011 3:15:22 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

But the Big Ten could in turn look to invite UConn in.


44 posted on 11/10/2011 3:16:54 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: dfwgator

Older brother, Keth Henendez.


45 posted on 11/10/2011 3:18:53 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I’ve read anywhere from 10 to 12 years old.


46 posted on 11/10/2011 11:14:28 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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