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Penn State child sex-abuse scandal: When we had the facts, we ran the story
PennLive ^ | 10-10-11 | David Newhouse

Posted on 11/10/2011 11:19:52 PM PST by tcrlaf

On Friday, The Patriot-News was the first news organization to report that former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky had been charged with child sex abuse. Since then, the national media have descended on Happy Valley and our own coverage has drawn 6 million page views on PennLive.com.

While many readers have expressed their appreciation for our coverage, some have asked: Forget Joe Paterno or Graham Spanier. Why didn’t The Patriot-News investigate these allegations sooner?

That’s an important question. Here is the answer:

(Excerpt) Read more at pennlive.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; coverup; pedophelia; pennstate
A very strange article, and title, from PennLive, but here is the REAL BREAKING NEWS in it:

"In 1998, a boy who was 12 at the time told police that Sandusky had showered with him in the Penn State football locker room during a tour. The boy claimed Sandusky assaulted him during the shower.

During our own investigation, years later, the mother told us that she had been specifically instructed by state police not to speak with reporters.

No charges were filed against Sandusky in 1998. With the mother cowed into silence, the incident remained buried.

No further victims or witnesses spoke up until the 2002 incident that involved Mike McQueary, Paterno and other top university officials."

THE STATE POLICE TOLD THE MOTHER TO STAY SILENT....

This story just keeps getting worse, and larger.

1 posted on 11/10/2011 11:20:00 PM PST by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Fire the entire coaching staff and shutdown the football program immediately.

Focus on Health care and what Milton Hershey did for the University. That is inspiring news for sure.


2 posted on 11/10/2011 11:44:12 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: tcrlaf

I hope the State Police “instruction” to the mother is a caution as to an “ongoing investigation” rather than something more sinister.

BTW folks PSU has a campus in Harrisburg. The newspaper was quite correct in making absolutely certain they had the facts in hand before publishing the original story.


3 posted on 11/10/2011 11:45:48 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

“is” should be “was”, but upon re-reading the article it really does appear to me that it the State Police swept it under the rug.


4 posted on 11/10/2011 11:47:37 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
“is” should be “was”, but upon re-reading the article it really does appear to me that it the State Police swept it under the rug.

Can't say that it was the State Police who swept it under the rug. Final say on the disposition of the case fell to DA Grigar who elected not to file charges.

Of course, he's no longer available for questioning on this portion of the whole matter, as he disappeared some years later, and was recently declared "dead".

A lot here that really needs some thorough explanations, which extreme doubt obtains will be forthcoming...

the infowarrior

5 posted on 11/10/2011 11:53:24 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: tcrlaf

Local-State Police, Local-State Politicians and Child Protective Services all covered it up.


6 posted on 11/11/2011 12:03:28 AM PST by Despot of the Delta
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To: infowarrior

I’m waiting for a few of the old self-inflicted gunshot wound in the back of the head suicide’s to start up.


7 posted on 11/11/2011 12:08:36 AM PST by Despot of the Delta
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To: tcrlaf

The rush to judgement involving Joe Paterno hides so much more than needs to be dealt with in this story.

The 1998 incident stands out big time. Sandusky was actually on the coaching staff at that time and would leave a year later.

The university police and other authorities including the local District Attorney’s office were involved.

We need answers about who knew what and why it was decided not to prosecute back then?


8 posted on 11/11/2011 12:16:04 AM PST by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: tcrlaf
There are many trees in this forest and the forest is larger than one campus.

9 posted on 11/11/2011 12:41:42 AM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: jiggyboy

” BTW folks PSU has a campus in Harrisburg. The newspaper was quite correct in making absolutely certain they had the facts in hand before publishing the original story.”

there way too many jackasses with keyboards and no control over emotional thinking to worry about FACTS


10 posted on 11/11/2011 2:39:00 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: tcrlaf
A very strange article, and title

What's strange about the article or the title?

11 posted on 11/11/2011 3:56:31 AM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: tcrlaf

“..many at Penn State knew of Sandusky’s proclivities; at a local ice cream parlor there was (until yesterday), an ice cream treat named after Sandusky; two scoops of ice cream topped by a cone. “

http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=650157

Pennlive is lying through their snouts in CYA mode.


12 posted on 11/11/2011 4:09:42 AM PST by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: tcrlaf
During our own investigation, years later, the mother told us that she had been specifically instructed by state police not to speak with reporters.

I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure that PA State Police were not involved in the 1998 case.

However, Penn State Police (campus police) were deeply involved and created their own report that the allegations were unfounded.

I want these tidbits to be accurate because they are so important to unraveling this case!

13 posted on 11/11/2011 4:26:27 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: tcrlaf

Between the Luzern County “Kids for Cash” scandal and the goings on in Happy Valley, seems like children in PA do not have a happy lot.


14 posted on 11/11/2011 5:14:34 AM PST by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Despot of the Delta

In the absense of any other info I believe that’s a fair assessment.

I have not seen anything to indicate why it took from 2002, time of the witnessed anal rape incident, to 2010 to get to a grand jury. What did I miss? Anybody have a clue?


15 posted on 11/11/2011 5:17:41 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: BossLady; Protect the Bill of Rights

“In 1998, a boy who was 12 at the time told police that Sandusky had showered with him in the Penn State football locker room during a tour. The boy claimed Sandusky assaulted him during the shower.

During our own investigation, years later, the mother told us that she had been specifically instructed by state police not to speak with reporters.”

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“..many at Penn State knew of Sandusky’s proclivities; at a local ice cream parlor there was (until yesterday), an ice cream treat named after Sandusky; two scoops of ice cream topped by a cone. “


16 posted on 11/11/2011 5:19:28 AM PST by maggief
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To: jiggyboy
upon re-reading the article it really does appear to me that it the State Police swept it under the rug.

I wonder if the state police gave her advice about talking with an attorney? They should have advised her to seek the advice of an attorney.

17 posted on 11/11/2011 5:19:49 AM PST by Will88
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To: Erik Latranyi

When it came to the Sandusky allegations 13 years ago, friends and former co-workers said Gricar would never have backed down if he had a strong case.

The lawyer’s nephew Tony Gricar told The Patriot-News: ‘People ask why Ray did not prosecute, and I have no problem saying, because he clearly felt he didn’t have a case for a ‘’successful’’ prosecution.

‘One thing I can say is that Ray was beholden to no one, was not a politician.’

The DA had a ‘bitter taste in his mouth’ for the Penn State program and Coach Sandusky, added his nephew.

Montour County District Attorney Robert Buehner Jr, a friend of the missing man, told the New York Times that if Gricar had committed suicide, he would have wanted his body found.

No suspects have ever emerged after investigations into Gricar’s death.

A report written in 1998 on the charges levelled against Sandusky decided the claims were ‘unfounded’ - even after the DA had the mother of an alleged victim confront the football coordinator while police listened in.

Mr Beuhener told The Patriot News: ‘You don’t want to go after someone high profile unless you have a compelling case.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060027/Ray-Gricar-disappeared-2005-tried-bring-sex-abuse-case-Penn-States-Jerry-Sandusky.html#ixzz1dP0qD5r1


18 posted on 11/11/2011 5:26:00 AM PST by maggief
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To: tcrlaf

Anything heard from GLBT?


19 posted on 11/11/2011 5:26:16 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: wolficatZ

Sorry to be obtuse, but what is two scoops of ice cream with a cone on top supposed to signify in your mind? I have seen that configuration decorated to be a clown.

And, yes, I get the male genitilia alliteration. But where does pedophilia come in?


20 posted on 11/11/2011 5:27:47 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: tcrlaf

I’ll bet the local media down there has been spiking stories on Sandusky for years. Someone should ask media outlets down there to go on the record about what they knew and when they knew it. How long they’ve been practicing don’t ask, don’t tell.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 5:29:17 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: tcrlaf
It sounds like the list of people who should be shot; keeps growing.
Clean it up; scorch the earth. I could care less what any police entity told me; I would not stay silent about something like this.
Yes there would probably be repercussions; but who cares?

The alternative of staying silent would be 100’s of times worse.

22 posted on 11/11/2011 5:35:19 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: dools0007world

The GJ investigation started after another kid complained of Sandusky making sexual advances to him in 2009. The 2002 incident was uncovered in the course of the investigation.


23 posted on 11/11/2011 5:38:17 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: tcrlaf; Tribune7

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24 posted on 11/11/2011 5:44:46 AM PST by randita (I'm not a percentage. I'm a free person.)
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25 posted on 11/11/2011 5:46:43 AM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: jiggyboy
The newspaper was quite correct in making absolutely certain they had the facts in hand before publishing the original story.

And yet they have absolutely no problem publishing the smears against Herman Cain, without the "facts" they are so committed to having.

26 posted on 11/11/2011 5:50:36 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: tcrlaf
It appears from the grand jury presentment that the school’s aim was to handle this report very quietly. They succeeded. No one who had been directly involved talked about it at the time. No one.

Sandusky flaunted the so-called “ban” on his bringing kids to campus — in fact, he held Second Mile camps on other Penn State campuses as recently as 2008. We never noticed any sanctions against the former coach because they didn’t really exist.

So, the cover-up was perpetrated by the PSU Administration, the football staff and the Pennsylvania State Police. And who else, I wonder?

27 posted on 11/11/2011 5:54:56 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: tcrlaf

I suggest folks read the grand jury report. Victim 6’s story begins on p. 18. He’s the boy whose mother got the police to investigate Sandusky in 1998. The boy met Sandusky at a picnic when he was 7 or 8 yrs. old. Sandusky spent the next 3 yrs. lavishing him with gifts and attention, but no molestation until he took the boy to the football bldg., wrestled/rough-housed with him, and then insisted they were sweaty and needed a shower. The shower scene describes a naked Sandusky lathering the naked boy and bear-hugging him. No doubt, this was the prelude to eventually progressing episode by episode to the child rape McQueary saw another boy endure in 2002. DA Gricar, even faced with Sandusky admitting to showering with a naked child, lathering him up, and bear-hugging him, may have genuinely believed that event didn’t rise to a criminal offense, especially as there was no claim of earlier questionable conduct between the two.


28 posted on 11/11/2011 5:57:38 AM PST by GAgal
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To: maggief
The DA had a ‘bitter taste in his mouth’ for the Penn State program and Coach Sandusky, added his nephew.

I think the power of Penn State was stronger than Gricar's case against Sandusky in 1998, so I think Gricar took a deal that included money in exchange for protection.

Gricar always wanted to travel the world when he retired and he announced his retirement in January 2004, 16 months before he disappeared.

29 posted on 11/11/2011 5:59:06 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: maggief
Ewwwww.....a Sandusky.....people are sick......

I am wondering if this is the woman that I read a rumor about receiving a black SUV for keeping her mouth shut.

30 posted on 11/11/2011 6:13:44 AM PST by BossLady
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To: tcrlaf

hmmm.....and when the PA State Police ordered this mother to keep her trap shut, our Governor would have been Tom Ridge.

The same Tom Ridge whose name is being bandied about as Graham Spanier’s replacement...


31 posted on 11/11/2011 6:52:37 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: tcrlaf

During our own investigation, years later, the mother told us that she had been specifically instructed by state police not to speak with reporters.


Evil thrives behind secrecy and lies.

No way would I have kept this secret (given what I know at my age now). If I know, I’m blabbing.


32 posted on 11/11/2011 7:06:44 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Nextrush; infowarrior
We need answers about who knew what and why it was decided not to prosecute back then?

Final say on the disposition of the case fell to DA Grigar who elected not to file charges. Of course, he's no longer available for questioning on this portion of the whole matter, as he disappeared some years later, and was recently declared "dead".

Thanks to INFOWARRIOR.

33 posted on 11/11/2011 8:26:41 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: tcrlaf
During our own investigation, years later, the mother told us that she had been specifically instructed by state police not to speak with reporters. No charges were filed against Sandusky in 1998. With the mother cowed into silence, the incident remained buried.

Sounds like a lot of people were involved... on many levels.

34 posted on 11/11/2011 8:32:16 AM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: maggief

As usual, the LOSS of a LOT OF MONEY was the justification for keeping this quiet, possibly involving murder as well.

It’s always the same story.


35 posted on 11/11/2011 8:32:58 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Nextrush; infowarrior

(and because SOURCED LINKS are vital):

D.A. Missing, Declared Dead Who Likely Would Have Pursued Sandusky Prosecution

http://www.huntingtonnews.net/13183


36 posted on 11/11/2011 8:38:02 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

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EVENING OF EXCELLENCE - SECOND MILE AND PATERNO SHARE SALUTE
Lancaster New Era (PA) - Thursday, March 20, 1997
Author: GREG GRASA
HERSHEY - It was billed as “A Celebration of Excellence,” a special evening honoring Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno.

But Paterno himself was the first to point out that this night really was a salute to his assistant, Jerry Sandusky , and The Second Mile organization that Sandusky founded nearly 20 years ago.

“It should be a tribute to Jerry Sandusky and the volunteers in The Second Mile,” Paterno said of his defensive coordinator, who has been an assistant coach for 29 of Paterno’s 31 seasons as head coach. “These are special people, it’s a special project and I just feel privileged to be a part of it tonight.”

A crowd of about 600 filled the Hershey Lodge and Convention Center’s main banquet room Wednesday night to honor Paterno and support a noble endeavor. The Second Mile is a charitable organization that gives disadvantaged youth a second chance. More than 105,000 children across Pennsylvania are currently benefiting from the organization’s network of eight prevention, early-intervention and community-based programs.

“In the environment we’re in right now, Jerry and The Second Mile really prophesied what was going to have to happen with welfare - helping people without having the federal government or the state necessarily do it,” Paterno said. “That private sources could do it and could do it well. The Second Mile is a great example of what people can do who have leadership and who want to do it without a massive bureaucracy.”

Sandusky , whose organization grew out of his own experience as a foster parent, credited Paterno for allowing him the time to nurture The Second Mile and his extended family over the years.

“The Second Mile owes a lot to the Penn State football program and Joe Paterno, who allowed me to divert some of my attention to establishing our organization,” Sandusky said. “I don’t believe there is another major football program in the country in which that could have happened.”

In light of that, Wednesday’s event was an appreciation of both Paterno and The Second Mile. Gov. Tom Ridge and Republican state Sens. Robert Jubelirer and David Brightbill headed a list of luminaries in attendance, which also included a Who’s Who of Penn State athletics.

(snip)


37 posted on 11/11/2011 8:39:19 AM PST by maggief
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To: airborne
And who else, I wonder?

Just about 'everyone' who is 'anybody'.

38 posted on 11/11/2011 8:41:10 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: maggief
In light of that, Wednesday’s event was an appreciation of both Paterno and The Second Mile. Gov. Tom Ridge and Republican state Sens. Robert Jubelirer and David Brightbill headed a list of luminaries in attendance, which also included a Who’s Who of Penn State athletics.

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39 posted on 11/11/2011 8:47:40 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: tcrlaf

So Sandusky was a ped, there were witnesses, it was an open secret at the Penn State administration and athletic department, and yet nobody on the paper, even the sports guys, knew anything, heard anything, saw anything, suspected anything for all those years. Right.

No, sorry. I think these guys were probably as much a part of the Happy Valley good old boys’ network, as much a part of the problem, as anybody at the university.


41 posted on 11/11/2011 9:29:57 AM PST by RichInOC (Sarah Palin is at war with the left. Most Freepers are just playing the video game.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“and when the PA State Police”

‘State Police’ likely means ‘Penn State Police’, not Penn St Police


42 posted on 11/11/2011 9:42:43 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: airborne

“And yet they have absolutely no problem publishing the smears against Herman Cain, without the “facts” they are so committed to having.”

One involves Democrats like Spanier, Democrat-supporting Institutions, and Politically-correct Democrat activities.

The other is a Republican, so no rules apply.

Welcome to today’s Media, and it’s versions of “truth”.


43 posted on 11/11/2011 9:45:34 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf
The Patriot News is one of my local newspapers, so I'm used to it's liberal slant.

But when compared to the Philadelphia Inquirer or the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, it's a lot more to the center of the truth.

That being said, they did get a whole lot of grief from everyone around here, who worshiped at the alter of JoePa and his Beaver Stadium cathedral.

Just look at the comments they got when they published this story back in April.

44 posted on 11/11/2011 10:26:26 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: infowarrior; ransomnote; Dr. Sivana

Imagine if the officially dead prosecutor Gricar resurfaces at some point. I would pay money for the privilege of taking that deposition.


45 posted on 11/12/2011 1:38:14 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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