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Booing the Character Issue - We should care if the accusations against Cain are true.
National Review ^ | 11/11/2011 | Mona Charen

Posted on 11/11/2011 5:56:26 AM PST by TBBT

I think I understand why the audience at Wednesday’s CNBC debate booed Maria Bartiromo’s question to Herman Cain about sexual-harassment allegations. They don’t believe there is any truth to them. They suspect, along with the candidate, that the women concerned are part of a liberal lynch mob out to smear another strong, conservative, black man. They know that accusations of sexual harassment are often nebulous and PC. If I guess correctly, they also believe — with considerable justification — that the press is less interested in the dry details of policy than in salacious tales of misbehavior. They resent being dragged into another smutty distraction.

Yes, but. As someone who was well-disposed toward Herman Cain as a public figure (if not as a potential president), I cannot help recalling the response of Democrats to revelations about Bill Clinton. “We know all about it,” one exasperated reader wrote to Newsweek magazine, “and WE DON’T CARE.” In fact, the majority of Americans did not care — and it was not our finest moment as a nation. Liberals, who professed to be appalled by the one accusation against Clarence Thomas (just one non-contemporaneous accusation — not four or five), dismissed Bill Clinton’s behavior as no big deal. Stuart Taylor noted at the time that even if everything Anita Hill said about Clarence Thomas were true, it would not be nearly as serious as the allegations against Bill Clinton. Conservatives argued at the time that character mattered. Liberals replied, in effect, that it didn’t...

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To: TBBT

I don’t think we should discount the character issue. A president should almost be able to walk on water.

The thing is, I don’t believe that Cain did those things that he is accused of and the witnesses brought forth so far are problematic witness at the best and totally uncredible at worst.

And nobody else has brought up anything to suggest that Cain isn’t a good man at heart.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 6:14:16 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: sklar
What are you whining about?

NR is 100% proRomney-proObama-proSoros
unfortunately like the recently racist Maria Bartiromo.

NR STILL is unable to deal with the issues
or the dots to Rove, Romney, Martin, and themselves.


22 posted on 11/11/2011 6:14:16 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: TBBT

I totally agree with you. Most Republicans have reached the point of stupification when it comes to Herman Cain. Don’t try to confuse them with facts. Herman Cain LIED about kknowing about the payoff right out of the box. That costs him a lot of points in my book. There’s an old adage that says “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.” Sadly, for the blind Cain followers, that applies to their idol Cain as well as Bill Clinton and Anthon Weiner.


23 posted on 11/11/2011 6:14:24 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: RexBeach

I cannot help thinking it is utterly moronic to compare the real accusations that were prove with evidence about Clinton with completely unsubstantiated accusations made up at Cain.

We had proof against Clinton. Where is ever 1 bit of proof, other then accusations against Cain?


24 posted on 11/11/2011 6:14:32 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: frogjerk

Sorry. Can’t help the way I feel.


25 posted on 11/11/2011 6:15:13 AM PST by RexBeach (There is no such thing as a good tax - Winston Churchill)
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To: Stepan12

Yup, they’re doing this because they(the democrats and RINOs) are expecting conservatives to get out the white sheets and want to lynch Cain for daring to allegedly lay a hand on a blonde, white woman.

Unfortunately for them, we’re not a bunch of racists in the least and they still clueless.


26 posted on 11/11/2011 6:15:34 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: TBBT

If the accusations are true then yes, we should be concerned. But there has been virtually no evidence presented to support the latest accusations, and few details about the two which were settled. I don’t believe a person should be found guilty based on innuendo alone.


27 posted on 11/11/2011 6:15:37 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: TBBT

If we are looking for the PERFECT candidate then we should care, but we are looking for the most conservative who can beat Obama. Mitt of course does not qualify for that at all, he also has very serious character issues of a different nature, so he is out too Mona.

Fortunately, Cain is clearly innocent and so the whole issue is moot anyway.


28 posted on 11/11/2011 6:16:03 AM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

I cannot help thinking it is utterly moronic to compare the real accusations that were prove with evidence about Clinton with completely unsubstantiated accusations made up at Cain.

We had proof against Clinton. Where is ever 1 bit of proof, other then accusations against Cain?

Shame on you people. There is more at risk here then merely helping your candidate of choice win an election. If they can get away with this guilt by accusation smear at Cain, YOUR candidate will be next.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 6:16:35 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: TBBT
We should also care if the accusations against Cain are false.

Too many (especially the MSM's) seem to go on the track that the accusations are so serious and so many that "there must be something to it".

That is not necessarily the case.

It could be true, but there is a very real possibility that this is nothing but a vicious smear campaign, with very little truth behind it, to bring down a promising conservative candidate.

We have a case where anti harassment laws are used to harass.
Stop the innuendos and bring out the evidence, if there is any.

31 posted on 11/11/2011 6:17:13 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: RexBeach

Well at least your honest that your are feeling and not bothering to think

Shame on you people. There is more at risk here then merely helping your candidate of choice win an election. If they can get away with this guilt by accusation smear at Cain, YOUR candidate will be next.


32 posted on 11/11/2011 6:17:33 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: sklar

I cannot help thinking it is utterly moronic to compare the real accusations that were prove with evidence about Clinton with completely unsubstantiated accusations made up at Cain.

We had proof against Clinton. Where is ever 1 bit of proof, other then accusations against Cain?

Shame on you people. There is more at risk here then merely helping your candidate of choice win an election. If they can get away with this guilt by accusation smear at Cain, YOUR candidate will be next.


33 posted on 11/11/2011 6:19:28 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

You are disingenuous.

Mr. Cain was not part of the agreement or settlement.
He had no knowledge and therefore did not lie.
In fact, his behavior AFTER that indicates he was made
more aware of it, and then himself made more known.

The agreement was controlled by NRA/Marriott, as discussed
in previous threads, just before the Rove-powered,
RomneyBought scandal du jour was launched.


34 posted on 11/11/2011 6:19:51 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: TBBT
It is going to be a sad day for those who lie when they stand before the Lord on Judgment Day. The Bible says people will be condemned for what they say.

Speak the truth or don't say anything at all.

35 posted on 11/11/2011 6:20:07 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: TBBT

I think the accusations smack a little too much of the need to purge Trotskyite saboteurs and wreckers from our ranks, comrade. I also see Allred playing the Queen of Hearts.

It is an old school Dixiecrat smear. The simple negro just cannot control his primitive urges, and cetera and cetera.


36 posted on 11/11/2011 6:21:04 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: sklar

Don’t project your bigoted ignroant behavior on everyone else here Romneybot

You have not bothered to post one rational fact about Cain.

So spare us the hypocritical phoney moralizing. You have not bothered to learn a single thing about Cain.


37 posted on 11/11/2011 6:21:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: BitWielder1
I want to add that I do not believe the accusers and intend to support Cain until further notice.

38 posted on 11/11/2011 6:21:39 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: TBBT
We should definitely care if a true and credible allegation of sexual impropriety is made against Cain or any other candidate.

What I've seen so far does not come anywhere close to rising to that level.

Then again, I suppose we were NOT supposed to care when true and credible charges were lodged against Bill Clinton.

39 posted on 11/11/2011 6:21:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sklar

Your criticism is not only of Free Republic but of Jim Robinson as well, what with your “We have been ordered...”. That’s pretty stupid to begin with, but clueless and classless as well. Free Republic is not a monolithic being. It is a conservative forum where proponents of any number of candidates post their threads. The only candidate who we’ve publicly refused to support this election is Romney; and his credentials answer for that.

If independent thinking were banned here, you’d be gone. Not for your political support but for your obnoxious, anti-FReeper-community statements.


40 posted on 11/11/2011 6:22:04 AM PST by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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