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To: starlifter

Why don’t you go down to Fort Hood and tell folks that the religion of military personnel doesn’t matter. Be sure to wear either your ‘free Nidal Hasan’ t-shirt or the one supporting Naser Abdo.

Then of course, there is Hasan Akbar/Fidel Kools.


38 posted on 11/12/2011 7:06:51 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35; WarParty CWO
Why don’t you go down to Fort Hood and tell folks that the religion of military personnel doesn’t matter. Be sure to wear either your ‘free Nidal Hasan’ t-shirt or the one supporting Naser Abdo.

Why didn't you do a web search on the man before yelling cover up and making a fool of yourself over his call name for example without any basis? First of all being the Commanding Officer of a carrier {must hold rank of Captain} is two grades above an Army Major{Ft Hood}. Then there is several more things. The Captain was observed throughout his Naval career even in combat. Any serious missteps along the way and no command.

To be a carrier C.O. you first serve as a carrier X.O. meaning Excutive Officer under the Commanding Officer first then go too a deep draft ship as rank of Captain then on too the carrier. A carrier Commanding Officer must also be a Naval Aviator. I don't think that rule has ever had an exception in modern carrier history.

On a carrier every Commanding Officer is watched. Likely more so than anyone else. Not because he is suspect but because of his position makes this such. He has a Marine assigned to him {refered to as Captains Orderly} and the Marine is with him from the time he hits the Quarterdeck in the morning till he leaves for the day or leaves the ship for other reasons such as a meeting. At sea an orderly is with him 24/7. If in his stateroom the orderly guards outside the door. Formal announcement is made ship wide for each arrival and depature from the ship the Captain makes. In his case it would be either Harry S Truman arriving or Harry S Truman departing would be the announcement.

No not even a Captain of a carrier has free reign to go into any secure spaces alone. On the Bridge at sea about 6-8 sailors including Captain and usually one-two officers, senior NCO, and junior enlisted are present at all times. Anywhere else his orderly is there. In the reactor control rooms others are there as well as the weapons magazines.

He is 100% responsible meaning he is accountable for everyones actions on the ship. As such his own conduct must be above standards.

I did some checking and it seems he collapsed on-board the ship which is in the yards for repairs. I say so because accounts say the ships medical response team was sent. These are corpsmen and doctors were first responder aside from likely his Marine orderly.

There is only one thing that would raise any questions and that is why he was transported to a civilian hospital when the Naval hospital was closer. The Naval hospital could have been on divert which sounds likely.

He was born in India and the odds of him being Islamic are small. Hinduism is the prevailing religion there but he had been in the U.S. and educated in the U.S. most of his life. BTW the Ft Hood shooter was born in the USA.

At sea the Captain of a carrier does have a higher ranking boss onboard ship usually which is an Admiral. An Admiral for cause can relieve and Captain of duty at any time.

The odds of the man being anything but what even his fellow Commanding Officers of other carriers say he was are very low. Two positions of command in the Navy get very tight scrutiny and that is for either submarine or carrier Commanding Officers. The Captain was likely headed for rank of Admiral in about a year and a half or retirement.

He was in an extremely high stress job and a high stress venue which is the yards. A perfect condition for a heart attack. If something didn't get fixed right it was his arse that would be held responsible. In case you haven't been following the news the past decade or so carrier Captains have been taking the brunt of blame for things well beyond their control as far as shipyard work goes. Most of the issues were a result of being underfunded.

Till you can prove him too have been anything other than honorable you need to stop trying to smear the mans name. His record and achievements says he has earned as much respect. Oh yea his call name Haaji would of the norm taken as another poster said from Johnny Quest. He didn't get to pick his call name BTW it would have been given him by his trainer or by his first squadron Commander. That name would not be an insult but rather a compliment to his flying abilities.

40 posted on 11/12/2011 3:36:55 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: PAR35

Alright, Sir. I checked it out. Tembe is a Hindu surname, from the Maharashtra State/Region of India, which is where the city of Bombay is located. Tushar, which was his first name is a traditional Hindu first name which means “Frost”, or “Snow”.

Not that it should have mattered to you, but Capt. T. Tembe was NOT a Muslim.

Are you satisfied, sir?


49 posted on 11/14/2011 5:45:52 AM PST by ketelone
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