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Curtains For Cain
American Thinker ^ | November 12, 2011 | Tom Thurlow

Posted on 11/12/2011 12:33:36 AM PST by reformedcrat

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To: reformedcrat

This is the first time I’ve read pure fiction at the American Thinker. This time they’re not thinking clearly.

This nation hasn’t forgotten Bill Clinton, the serial rapist. If that criminal could remain in the White House, why should vague allegations from the shadows of Chicagoland politicians disqualify a man for the Presidency?

A.T. is not considering the background of today’s voter opinion, nor the fact that Cain’s numbers remain high because nobody believes the Demonrat liars.


141 posted on 11/12/2011 4:43:56 AM PST by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Java4Jay

” More info coming to light...
Obama’s strategy requires Romney. Obama cannot win many traditional Democrats rustbelt states, so instead he is relying on heavily playing the race card and anti-Mormon sentiment in the SOUTH. Obama’s team now believes their best path to victory is to maximize the black vote in the south while at the same time suppressing the white Evangelical vote by attacking Mormonism (through surrogates, friendly press etc, never DIRECTLY from 0bama, other than subtle digs.) Obama also needs to stir up his far-left base by attacking Romney as the personification of “corporate greed.” (The OWS scheme was hatched when they were sure Romney would be the nominee.)

If Romney is not the nominee, then Obama’s “Southern Strategy” collapses. This is particularly true if the GOP nominates a candidate from Georgia, like Cain or Gingrich. Cain anywhere on the ticket kills 0bama’s black-vote strategy, which is the reason for the full-court press to try to make Herman appear too toxic to put on the ticket.”

Thanks for sharing this. Wouldn’t discount this line of reasoning, as it looks like something Barry would be very comfortable having his henchmen/woman do while he holds his
head high, and laments how his work has just begun.


142 posted on 11/12/2011 4:46:58 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: truthfreedom

Everyone assumes Defense budget cuts will 1) affect service members pay, 2) decrease readiness 3) prohibit our forces from having the best equipment.

I don’t believe this is the case.

Like every other thing the government touches, Defense spending has a lot of fraud involved. Attack the fraud and you will save a lot of money. Fraud I am talking about isn’t by your average military member, it is at the contract level.


143 posted on 11/12/2011 4:49:52 AM PST by BookaT ($9.99 this week +$9.99 last 3 weeks + $50 to get going= 89.96 for my ticket on The Cain Train!)
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To: RoadTest

The Left set the bar very low. If you can commit a felony and still remain President Of The United States, an alleged pass is hardly disqualifying stuff. I’ve made a pass at women myself in appropriate circumstances. Heaven forbid human nature is going to disqualify decent men from running for public office because every man alive has done it. According to the Left then, the only men who can run for President are virgins or saints. Their hypocrisy is only exceeded by the depth of their cynical depravity.


144 posted on 11/12/2011 4:50:31 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: reformedcrat
The problem is, it is not among the base or Cain's believers, where the problem lies. It is with the general electorate, Independents, Moderates and crossover Democrats

Among that block, Cain's interests have dropped rapidly. The Author is probably correct. And in effect, Romney will become the likely candidate.

Like it or not, we did have Perry who could have been a good candidate and who is well qualified. But for some reason, the entire base went crazy and launched an effective internal campaign to destroy him. One which even the MSM would have had difficulty in doing. Of course Perry blew much of it himself in the debates, but realistically, much of the hype was also exxagerated, and for some reason, Perry was not “perfect” enough.

Then came the over night emotional popularity of 3%’er Cain, just hours after Palin announced she was not running. It does not take a Rocket Scientist to figure out how that happened. Realistically speaking, Cain is just a toned down version of Donald Trump, with no actual governmental executive experience and a gift for gab. (Which is also somewhat over rated.)

But more importantly, if this folly continues, and Cain is elected as our candidate, it will be not only a painfully embarrassing chapter in the saga of the search for the Most Perfect Conservative Since Reagan, it will be an epic tragedy of historical proportions.

145 posted on 11/12/2011 4:51:08 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

If you’re right, no one is going to pull the levers for Slick Willard.

And Obama will be President for four more years.

The establishment would be happy with that result but the country would lose in the long run.


146 posted on 11/12/2011 4:54:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Cain or any republican candidate will have many months to debate Barry and win over voters in a general election. Primaries bring out the worst because candidates are attacked from all sides. They’re even saying Romney’s brand is being hurt in this primary because he is unable to break 20-25%. Once the GOP has a candidate and the right falls behind the candidate you’ll see things even out, regardless who is picked.

One good debate where Cain zings Barry he could gain huge support.


147 posted on 11/12/2011 4:56:38 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: mylife
Godfathers is his entire claim to fame?

Well, no. He was also a rocket scientist for the U.S. Navy (in a civilian capacity). Before Godfathers Pizza (which I find uninspiring for pizza), he also served creditably in executive roles at Pillsbury and Burger King (heading up the Philly region, making him a Burger Duke or Burger Prince, or maybe even a Burger Meister). He also headed up the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City. You might have heard that he spent three years heading the National Restaurant Association.

If you really cared, you could have read FR or Mr. Cain's website. Chances are you knew at least half of what I listed (which was not exhaustive), making your question appear disingenuous.
148 posted on 11/12/2011 4:57:59 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: reformedcrat

Oh, it over. Boo-hoo. Who will save us now?

Mitt Romney! That’s the ticket! Oh, wait, what about Newton? He’s as solid conservative as a body can be - every bit as much as Mitt! Wow, thanks for straightening out this mess for us, now we’ll just have to hunker down and wait until the media tells us which candidate, between the Mitten and Figleaf Newton, will be the next standard bearer of true conservatism.

Oh, wait! I just forgot - I’m a racist. I guess I’ll still have to vote for Herman. It’s a prin-ci-ple thang. You wouldn’t understand.


149 posted on 11/12/2011 4:59:20 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Expiate your inner liberal racist guilt, but use your brain: Vote CAIN in 2012!)
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To: bigdirty
One good debate where Cain zings Barry he could gain huge support.

My intelligent, virtuous, but not so political wife supports Cain, but it is largely because of his affable, unaffected manner. Cain needs help with the women's vote, and that manner will go farther than a zinger.
150 posted on 11/12/2011 5:00:05 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You are living in delusionland if you think Perry has been damaged in this race by anyone other the Rick Perry.

He was given top spot for doing nothing when he first entered.

He has himself to blame.

That said, Perry is at his most likable, almost funny when he goofs up. I don't think that translates into confidence though.

151 posted on 11/12/2011 5:00:12 AM PST by dforest
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To: mylife

Cain supported Affirmative action and Tarp. Also endorsed Romney. Sort of figures why Cain has left Romney alone and instead attacked Perry.

But those issues are somehow not important to his followers, who exxagerate his ability and his experience.


152 posted on 11/12/2011 5:01:34 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: reformedcrat

the reports of Cain’s demise is just wishful DemoRat and RINO thinking

No right minded person believes the SH BS


153 posted on 11/12/2011 5:03:25 AM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Dr. Sivana

His entire life, apart from a stint in the Navy, has been in the private sector. He ran twice unsuccessfully for public office before. He knows a world career politicians have no real experience with. And the breadth of resume is one that many people would like to have. The controversy over his stint with the NRA is threatening to overshadow every thing else. We should look at the whole picture and then decide how much weight to assign to alleged sexual harrassment incidents 15 or so years ago.


154 posted on 11/12/2011 5:03:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
the entire base went crazy and launched an effective internal campaign to destroy him.

That is just ridiculous. There was a lot of hype prior to and with Perry's entering the race, but he is blowing it all by himself, with absolutely terrible performances. It is very painful to watch him. One day he can do a good interview and you think okay, then the next debate or he can barely string 3 sentences together. It's crushing. He himself has made it more and more difficult to think he has a snowballs chance.
I'll also add that Cain's popularity did not happen overnight. All the while the media was totally ignoring him he was plugging away. He was winning straw poll after straw poll and doing very well down on the ground among the people before the FL poll. At that point the media could no longer ignore him and he started getting some press, which helped catapult what was already becoming a critical mass of support. It's like someone sneaking up behind you until they say "boo!" Just because you didn't see them coming doesn't mean they weren't there long before they said "boo".
155 posted on 11/12/2011 5:04:46 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: reformedcrat; All
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156 posted on 11/12/2011 5:05:35 AM PST by montag813
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To: reformedcrat

Unfortunately, I tend to agree with the article and I’ve thought this for a while now. And I like Cain!

But running in a primary is much different than running in a general and WAY different than being a CEO of a private business. (even if publicly traded)

Cain doesn’t seem to realize that he has to “always be on”. His comments about Anita Hill show this. Do I think they were innocent and in good humor? Yes! But if I have learned one thing moderating a friends wine website (of all things!) is that people across this country don’t have a sense of humor!

I live on the east coast, and I can’t imagine anyone having thicker skin than me. I would vote for Cain in a second. It’s not even a decision - especially compared to Obama. But I don’t think I’ll get that chance.

He’s not ready and it shows. Like it or not, you have to be able to play the game at least a little, or you’ll never get in the door to make the impact you want to make. It’s a shame, but it’s true.

I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am.


157 posted on 11/12/2011 5:07:08 AM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Good response.


158 posted on 11/12/2011 5:10:36 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: bigdirty
You are still forgetting that Obama has 4 years of experience in office and is a very shrewd debater. All they need to do is debate issues that Cain has no clue about and there are many.

Have you missed the debates where Cain flubbed on Foreign policy? the border fence? Military action? His responses were dismal.

Take your blinders off dude, Cain is clearly winging it and it will bite us in a very big way, if this stupidity keeps on going.

159 posted on 11/12/2011 5:11:06 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Just 25% Have Favorable Opinion of Rick Perry:
Rasmussen, Friday, November 11, 2011


Of the top contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney is viewed most favorably by all voters, while Texas Governor Rick Perry is the least liked. Among Republican voters, Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich still earn mostly positive reviews, while Perry and Ron Paul do not.

Following his devastating debate freeze, just 25% of voters nationwide now have a favorable opinion of Perry.




160 posted on 11/12/2011 5:11:47 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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