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Crime and Courts: Want to keep guns out of your home? Buy a 'no-gun' sign from the city
madison.com ^ | 12 nov 2011 | Steven Elbow

Posted on 11/12/2011 2:09:02 PM PST by rellimpank

Now that Wisconsin allows people to carry concealed guns, here's one thing you might want to know: That includes your home. That means that everyone from the Mary Kay lady to the plumber can come into your home packing heat, unless you tell them they can't, or unless you post a sign.

The law, which allows people to apply for licenses to carry concealed guns, knives, Tasers and billy clubs, went into effect on Nov. 1.

People who oppose the law -- according to some polls they make up the majority of the state -- might be put off at having to stick a sign on their door to keep guns out of the home. But I think it beats having to tell everyone who comes to the door that they need to put their gun in the car.

So I'm going to buy a sign, which are being sold at the Madison City Clerk's office in Room 103 of the City-County Building at 210 Martin Luther King Blvd., from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. The sign, a 5-inch-by-7-inch vinyl sticker, costs $5.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
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1 posted on 11/12/2011 2:09:06 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
So I'm going to buy a sign,....

Yeah, YOU do that and keep the criminals out of your home! ROTF!

What a maroon!

2 posted on 11/12/2011 2:13:09 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rellimpank

The “No guns” sign will have the opposite effect, as it will let the criminals know which houses have no guns.


3 posted on 11/12/2011 2:13:09 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: rellimpank

So instead of guns coming into your home without your knowledge, you’ll have home intruders and thieves...


4 posted on 11/12/2011 2:13:25 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: rellimpank
Welp, he's just told every burglar and rapist to visit his house anytime they like - wonder what his neighbors think about that...
5 posted on 11/12/2011 2:13:31 PM PST by decal (I'm not rude, I don't suffer fools is all.)
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To: rellimpank

Hoplophobes certainly give proof to the saying that “the difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance is finite.”


6 posted on 11/12/2011 2:13:46 PM PST by VR-21
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7 posted on 11/12/2011 2:14:09 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: rellimpank

Sounds more like a “come and rob me” sign.


8 posted on 11/12/2011 2:14:25 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: rellimpank
Only the law abiding will abide by the law.

Disarm the law abiding, and you will have lawlessness.

9 posted on 11/12/2011 2:14:40 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: rellimpank

Idiots.


10 posted on 11/12/2011 2:15:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: rellimpank

Guess we all had the same thought!


11 posted on 11/12/2011 2:15:19 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: rellimpank

“The law, which allows people to apply for licenses to carry concealed guns, knives, Tasers and billy clubs, went into effect on Nov. 1.”

ARGH, they can carry knives, clubs, and tasers too? I am jealouse, Michigan is gun only and it drives me nuts. We might get tasers very soon but I still wouldn’t mind carrying a decent sized pocket knife or a baton.


12 posted on 11/12/2011 2:16:24 PM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: rellimpank

Yes, I see my first reaction has been anticipated by everyone. I suspect that even an idiot lib will think twice before actually posting these public invitations to home invaders.


13 posted on 11/12/2011 2:19:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: rellimpank

Liberals; working hard to prove the law of unintended consequences!


14 posted on 11/12/2011 2:20:04 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: rellimpank


15 posted on 11/12/2011 2:20:16 PM PST by Iron Munro (One Trillion seconds = 31,709 years. One Trillion dollars = 3 Months of Obama Spending)
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To: rellimpank

How about posting NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE? Then YOU can be the one who gets burglarized.


16 posted on 11/12/2011 2:21:40 PM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: rellimpank
Better yet ...

Get a "Gun-Free Zone" sign.

Hang it on the outside of the door,

only on those boring, slow news days,

when you can sit comfortably inside

locked and loaded.

17 posted on 11/12/2011 2:22:14 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: rellimpank

There is so much stupid in this concept, I thought it was satire.


18 posted on 11/12/2011 2:24:54 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: rellimpank

Why not just put up a “Burglars Welcome” sign instead. It will cave the same effect.


19 posted on 11/12/2011 2:25:31 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: meadsjn
Get a "Gun-Free Zone" sign. Hang it on the outside of the door, only on those boring, slow news days, when you can sit comfortably inside locked and loaded.

Yeah, this would only work if they have 'castle doctrine', and really, it wouldn't be sporting....

...too much like shooting over bait. (8^D)

20 posted on 11/12/2011 2:37:21 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marstegreg

It is really stupid for businesses to put up no gun signs. If a customer or employee (permit holder) is denied the right to keep their gun on the premises and there is an incident that results in harm from a criminal, the business owner has more legal liability for damages.


21 posted on 11/12/2011 2:41:15 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: ransomnote
“So instead of guns coming into your home without your knowledge, you’ll have home intruders and thieves...”

But they will leave their guns outside and beat you to death with a baseball bat.

Being beat with a baseball bat is much preferred to being shot don't you know.

22 posted on 11/12/2011 2:41:27 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: rellimpank

Contrary to nearly everyone here, I see this in a different light. In a concealed carry state the sign allows the homeowner to tell any visitor, guest, service person that his/her concealed firearm is not allowed in the house. It in no way says the owner of the house does not own a gun. If anyone on FR believes a person does not have the right to deny a visitor the right to carry a firearm in their own home,than you believe property rights mean nothing


23 posted on 11/12/2011 2:43:05 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
So I'm going to buy a sign...

The liberal mind at work.

Your Capital Times is a barrel of laughs...

24 posted on 11/12/2011 2:43:17 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: rellimpank

**...unless you tell them they can’t, or unless you post a sign. ***

Back about 1968, after the riots and assasination of Bobby Kennedy the following signs began to appear around city areas in the East.

SOUL BROTHER

***

THIS HOUSE IS NOT ARMED.

Others bagan to lock and load causing a cartoonist to portray a white man cleaning his shotgun, while his wife says...”For heaven’s sake Harold. Can’t we just put up a sign that says SOUL BROTHER”?


25 posted on 11/12/2011 2:44:01 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Iron Munro

26 posted on 11/12/2011 2:46:42 PM PST by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: xkaydet65
In a concealed carry state the sign allows the homeowner to tell any visitor, guest, service person that his/her concealed firearm is not allowed in the house. It in no way says the owner of the house does not own a gun. If anyone on FR believes a person does not have the right to deny a visitor the right to carry a firearm in their own home,than you believe property rights mean nothing

You are, of course, correct.

Of course, there are many who would interpret the sign differently, as to mean the owner is unarmed. That might take a little while to sort out.

As for me, If I can't trust someone in my home armed, I can't trust them to be there at all.

27 posted on 11/12/2011 2:48:00 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: rellimpank

WHy don’t they just sell signs that say “No gun (or baseball bat) in the house. Please rob us”.


28 posted on 11/12/2011 2:51:04 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car; he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: rellimpank

“I see stupid people everywhere.”


29 posted on 11/12/2011 2:51:37 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: rellimpank

Think I’ll post one at each of the ranch gates, as well as on each door.

Of course, it won’t apply to me, but may be a bit like baiting a coyote trap...


30 posted on 11/12/2011 2:55:38 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: rellimpank
I'd rather have this sign.


31 posted on 11/12/2011 2:59:38 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: IMR 4350

Note to self: Buy ‘No Baseball Bats’ sign.


32 posted on 11/12/2011 3:01:20 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: grumpygresh

The only time I’ve ever seen a sign like that was posted well inside the door. By the time I saw it I thought to myself, “Yea right - like I’m going to march all the way back out to my car and risk having someone see me stash my piece just so this guy can feeeeeeel good about himself”.

I did respect his rights enough that I never patronized his store again ;-)


33 posted on 11/12/2011 3:02:05 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Yeah, this would only work if they have 'castle doctrine', and really, it wouldn't be sporting....

...too much like shooting over bait. (8^D)

OK, how about a series of range markers going up the driveway, with the ranges on both sides, and a wind indicator ribbon on each post?

800 yds.

700 yds.

600 yds.

500 yds.

etc.

34 posted on 11/12/2011 3:03:56 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: ransomnote
Can you believe it?

Just when I think the loony left can't reach a higher level of stupid, they always surprise me.

35 posted on 11/12/2011 3:09:43 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: rellimpank

Evidently there are many people who do not understand the definition of “Concealed”. I have gone CCW into a few businesses that posted these signs. Nobody asked, nobody told.

The worse that can happen is that you are asked to leave.


36 posted on 11/12/2011 3:10:05 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: rellimpank

Darn shame I am not a criminal. LOL

Stupidity isn’t just for lunch anymore.


37 posted on 11/12/2011 3:13:03 PM PST by dforest
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To: rellimpank

This is from the Capital Times whose staff probably prefers that you surrender all your worldly goods to the “poor and oppressed.” I think they’d like it to be a crime to defend your home against criminals, they hate the concept of self-defense so much. How dare you make tons of money while raping the the less well-off. Cheerfully give up your possessions to the needy. Just like Michael Moore shares his multi-millions with the masses. (smirk)


38 posted on 11/12/2011 3:14:18 PM PST by driftless2
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To: EGPWS
That's not the real risk ~ whether or not you have a sign, a criminal still doesn't know if you yourself have a firearm or large vicious dogs.

The real risk is that visitors to your home will leave their firearms lying there on the front seat of their car where they can be easily taken by your friendly neighborhood cat burglar.

Frankly, these lawmakers who imagine we want firearms just sitting there for the taking are nuts.

We are better off knowing the OWNERS have those firearms fully under their control at all times.

39 posted on 11/12/2011 3:16:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: driftless2

Is it OK if I bring wasp spray into your house...or a pen...or a rolled-up magazine...or my fists...or...

What fools!

LIBs entertain me but they make me blanch at their idiocy.


40 posted on 11/12/2011 3:19:48 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: nerdwithagun
Michigan is gun only and it drives me nuts. We might get tasers very soon but I still wouldn’t mind carrying a decent sized pocket knife or a baton.

You're fine on folders: http://michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1586_27094-10953--,00.html

"5. Is it illegal to have a knife with a blade over 3 inches in my possession? MCL 750.226 No. Michigan law specifies that a person, with intent to use the knife unlawfully against another, shall not go armed with a knife having a blade over 3 inches in length. "

41 posted on 11/12/2011 3:21:19 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Cicero
I suspect that even an idiot lib will think twice before actually posting these public invitations to home invaders.

You would think so wouldn't you? But...

"I would say we're probably selling at least five to 10 a day," says Elena Berg in the City Clerk's office. "Mainly businesses, but some are going on homes as well."

Some people might want to post a bit different sign...


42 posted on 11/12/2011 3:22:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: rellimpank

"saw a sign once, "No Cats in Flower Bed". I looked around and sure enuff no cats, so I took a **** and left"

43 posted on 11/12/2011 3:22:56 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: meadsjn

Are you a landscaping consultant? If so you’re hired! lol


44 posted on 11/12/2011 3:31:41 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: rellimpank

Does this give the home owner the right to frisk anyone who comes on their property?

I’m more concerned about cell phones because of their tracking. I find it to be an invasion of privacy. I have considered putting up a “No cell phones” sign but if visitors leave it in their car, in my driveway...oops!


45 posted on 11/12/2011 3:37:49 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: rellimpank

Oh Geez, I didn’t think they could get more stupid.


46 posted on 11/12/2011 3:39:11 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: FateAmenableToChange
"Michigan law specifies that a person, with intent to use the knife unlawfully against another, shall not go armed with a knife having a blade over 3 inches in length. "

So, if my intention is to use my knife lawfully on others there is no restriction on blade length? Excellent!

http://www.khukuriimports.co.nz/user/gimage/KILK13GurkhaService1_300_158.JPG

47 posted on 11/12/2011 3:41:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: rellimpank

This guy was dropped on his head too many times as a child.


48 posted on 11/12/2011 4:05:35 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I suspect that someone who put such a sign on his house and was himself armed, should he shoot an intruder, would be adjudged guilty of murder because he had that sign that effectively notifies a home invader that it is safe to invade that home.


49 posted on 11/12/2011 4:26:14 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Smokin' Joe
If I can't trust someone in my home armed, I can't trust them to be there at all !
50 posted on 11/12/2011 4:29:24 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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