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To: rellimpank

Contrary to nearly everyone here, I see this in a different light. In a concealed carry state the sign allows the homeowner to tell any visitor, guest, service person that his/her concealed firearm is not allowed in the house. It in no way says the owner of the house does not own a gun. If anyone on FR believes a person does not have the right to deny a visitor the right to carry a firearm in their own home,than you believe property rights mean nothing


23 posted on 11/12/2011 2:43:05 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: xkaydet65
In a concealed carry state the sign allows the homeowner to tell any visitor, guest, service person that his/her concealed firearm is not allowed in the house. It in no way says the owner of the house does not own a gun. If anyone on FR believes a person does not have the right to deny a visitor the right to carry a firearm in their own home,than you believe property rights mean nothing

You are, of course, correct.

Of course, there are many who would interpret the sign differently, as to mean the owner is unarmed. That might take a little while to sort out.

As for me, If I can't trust someone in my home armed, I can't trust them to be there at all.

27 posted on 11/12/2011 2:48:00 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: xkaydet65

>> It in no way says the owner of the house does not own a gun <<

Yeah, but haven’t you ever heard of stupid criminals? There are plenty of them out there, even in such a “full-of-intellectuals” locale as Madison.


63 posted on 11/12/2011 5:35:43 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: xkaydet65

Put up a sign on your door that says “No Democrats Allowed” and see what happens.

Are the signs meant to replace vocalization, as in, please leave your gun in the car if you are carrying?

How many “strangers” enter people’s homes anyway? The stranger would most likely knock on your door and shoot you when you opened it.

This is so silly on every level.


76 posted on 11/12/2011 9:35:16 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: xkaydet65
I, fr the most part agree. This is open to a number of interpretations.
IMO, if someone is all that concerned about "strange guns in their home (whatever they may think that means), a better sign would be, just inside the door:

Please place all firearms on table when entering home.
They will be returned upon exit.
Thank you kindly, Homeowner

85 posted on 11/13/2011 2:28:26 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: xkaydet65

“If anyone on FR believes a person does not have the right to deny a visitor the right to carry a firearm in their own home,than you believe property rights mean nothing”

You’re right, of course, in principle.... You certainly have the right to ban someone carrying a weapon into your home (or ban them for any other reason). However, given concealed carry laws, why would you let ANYONE into your home if you were afraid of them?

Besides that what criminal is going to ponder “Let’s see, does he mean HE doesn’t have a gun, or that he doesn’t want mine there? Hmmmmmm....” NO!

A criminal will look for any sign of weakness—and a “no-guns” sign will look like just the opposite of an “Insured by SMITH AND WESSON” sign.

Given 2 houses...surely he’d go to the “no guns” house first...as very likely it’d be owned by an anti-gun zealot....


89 posted on 11/13/2011 5:20:02 AM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: xkaydet65
My policy when CC at somebody's house:

I don't say, and they don't know.

Problem solved.

90 posted on 11/13/2011 1:17:53 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: xkaydet65
If anyone on FR believes a person does not have the right to deny a visitor the right to carry a firearm in their own home,than you believe property rights mean nothing.

A homeowner who discovers that a visitor is armed against his wishes has the right to demand that the visitor leave. A homeowner who wishes to discover if a visitor is armed has the right to demand that the visitor either consent to a search or leave. If a homeowner wants to search all visitors before they enter, the homeowner should have the right to do so. A homeowner who lets someone in without being searched retains the right to demand at some later time that the person either permit a search or leave. Visitors, however, retain the right to leave without being searched.

93 posted on 11/15/2011 4:28:22 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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