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Pakistan offers cut-price fighter jet
Reuters ^ | Nov 13, 2011

Posted on 11/13/2011 8:43:07 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Pakistan offers cut-price fighter jet

DUBAI | Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:57am EST

DUBAI (Reuters) - Pakistan is pitching its new JF17 Thunder fighter jet, developed jointly with China, at an aggressive discount to dominant Western rivals, the country's defense minister said on Sunday.

"You can buy three of our aircraft for one F-16," Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar told Reuters at the Dubai Air Show, where the aircraft is being displayed.

He said that the producer, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, was not able to keep pace with the requirements of the air force.

"Three squadrons are already flying the aircraft in Pakistan and one squadron in China," he added.

Analysts expect the aircraft, which Mukhtar said was priced at $25-30 million, to be focused on emerging markets in Asia and Africa.

"Going to the (European) market is not very easy because you are cutting the profits of some other people," Mukhtar said.

He said the development of the aircraft was not targeted at archrival India.

"India need not worry -- it's

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; jf17; pakistan; pakitrash
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1 posted on 11/13/2011 8:43:08 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What’s that leaking from the starboard wing???

Did Jed Clampett get off another lucky shot with that ole flintlock of his???

I heard he was shootin’ at some food (the other day), but this looks a little hard to field dress, much less get it to a processor...

;-)


2 posted on 11/13/2011 8:46:42 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Quality targets.


3 posted on 11/13/2011 8:50:52 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The price of American hardware is dramatically higher than it could be. The contracts are larded down with rules and regulations supporting every politician’s agenda. Minority set-asides, no lead, no cadmium, EPA, OSHA; the contracts go on for page after page unrelated to the hardware. They frequently require ludicrous, inappropriate testing. They require unrealistic failure rates; which the vendors regularly lie about. Then there’s the way they’re bought. The military may give you a five year contract, but Congress only funds it one year at a time. That means the manufacturer can’t risk investing in automation, so every item is built as a one-off.


4 posted on 11/13/2011 8:57:42 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Heck, you can buy 10 target drones for one F16. Not such a good deal, just 3 for 1.


5 posted on 11/13/2011 9:04:41 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Going to the (European) market is not very easy because you are cutting the profits of some other people, it would have to compete against vastly superior aircraft
6 posted on 11/13/2011 9:16:01 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
hummm...

7 posted on 11/13/2011 9:33:09 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Gen.Blather

The primary reason buying US arms is risky is because if America decides it doesn’t like your foreign or domestic policy, the US government is likely to cut you off from spare parts, upgrades, etc.

Buy from Russia or China and you never have to worry about that. You could massacre your own people on a daily basis, and Russian and China will sell you pretty much whatever you need as long as you can pay for it.


8 posted on 11/13/2011 10:10:44 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pakistan, their prices are IN-SA-A-A-A-A-ANE!!!!


9 posted on 11/13/2011 10:35:05 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"You can buy three of our aircraft for one F-16," Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar told Reuters at the Dubai Air Show, where the aircraft is being displayed.

So then why is Pakistan still wanting to buy F-16s from the US?

Sorry, rhetorical question.

10 posted on 11/13/2011 11:54:47 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Chode

Ehhhhh, Tomatoes...Tamatoes...;-)

You remember when they tried to upgrade the P-51 airframe back in the 80’s??? A close support aircraft designed to be sold to central and south American countries, friendly to us of course...That looked like a sweet ride as well...

I stand to be corrected, but did they call it the P/A-61??? Or something like that???

Might go take a look for it here in a while...


11 posted on 11/14/2011 4:47:11 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Yo-Yo

Parts...???


12 posted on 11/14/2011 4:47:57 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Chode

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer

Here it is, I was wrong on the designation in the last post...


13 posted on 11/14/2011 4:56:46 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Chode

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang

I still like this version better...

But that rotorhead turbo engine the PA-48 uses intrigues me though...

I’d love to stop by that museum (I guess at Edwards AFB)where these aircraft are parked, just to see them...

Road TRIP!!!


14 posted on 11/14/2011 5:08:34 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64
i guess my point was, it looks like a knock off of the Tigershark...
15 posted on 11/14/2011 7:45:30 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

I think yer F-20 would smoke it like a pack of Cool’s...hehehe, really I do...


16 posted on 11/14/2011 7:56:19 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64
absolutely...
17 posted on 11/14/2011 7:57:41 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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“You can buy three of our aircraft for one F-16,”

You can also lose 3 of those aircrafts to 1 F-16.

“India need not worry — it's not India-specific. We are building very close relations with India.”

I dont think India is worried at all. You can probably get 5 of those Paki aircrafts for one Eurofighter/Rafale.

18 posted on 11/14/2011 9:35:19 AM PST by ravager
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To: Chode; stevie_d_64

The JF-17 does have an American connection. It originated from a Chinese project with Grumman to upgrade their J-7 (Mig-21 copies) with Western avionics and weaponry.

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/fc1.asp

About whether the F-20 would smoke it-the two aircraft are pretty analogous in capability.


19 posted on 11/14/2011 7:21:08 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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thx... i can only hope our avionics and missile tech would tilt the scales in our favor except they are prolly using our own tech against us thanks to SlickWillie
20 posted on 11/14/2011 7:33:08 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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