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Supreme Court has agreed to hear legal challenges to Obama health care law
MSNBC ^ | Nov 14, 2011

Posted on 11/14/2011 7:15:57 AM PST by Second Amendment First

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KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; healthcare; obamacare; scotus; socialisthealthcare
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To: vette6387
"But rather it has agreed to hear whether or not those bringing the case “HAVE THE STANDING TO DO SO!”

Does that mean the 29 states?

41 posted on 11/14/2011 9:39:34 AM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

According to Fox, a legal aide to Kennedy thinks that he will rule in favor of Obamacare.


42 posted on 11/14/2011 9:40:44 AM PST by yup2394871293
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

According to Fox, a legal aide to Kennedy thinks that he will rule in favor of Obamacare.


43 posted on 11/14/2011 9:41:20 AM PST by yup2394871293
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To: Terry Mross
"Of course, I’m about 90% convinced it’s all rigged anyway."

If Eliana Kagen does not recuse herself then you can bet it is rigged.

44 posted on 11/14/2011 9:42:27 AM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: Truth29

Oh Oh! I did an Obama. It is 26 states NOT 29 :-)


45 posted on 11/14/2011 9:46:14 AM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: Second Amendment First

Unfortunately, I don’t have that much confidence the SC will do the right thing. The fact that we have to take this to the SC to determine if the government can make us buy something is beyond insane.


46 posted on 11/14/2011 9:58:53 AM PST by deep (http://www.americansagainstobama.com)
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree. I don’t think the court will overturn it. Last DC circuit judge “conservative” ruled in favor of it. Handwriting on the wall big time!


47 posted on 11/14/2011 9:59:39 AM PST by magna carta
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To: Second Amendment First; OldDeckHand; tired_old_conservative; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; ...
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

48 posted on 11/14/2011 10:24:28 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

That would be great.


49 posted on 11/14/2011 10:29:38 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: Second Amendment First
When you boil it down, this decision will determine whether or not we own our money or property.

If the government can mandate what you can buy, it surely can mandate what you can't buy.

One day the government may come to my house and tell me to buy a gun and a Bible. Next day the government may come to may house and tell me to buy a Chevy Volt, and a particular brand of condoms. And when you don't buy what the government tells you...

I won't go to the government's camps without bringing death and destruction with me.

5.56mm

50 posted on 11/14/2011 10:34:29 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: In Maryland
"If the SC rules in favor of obama, it hands him the election. Of course, I’m about 90% convinced it’s all rigged anyway."

Bears repeating:

I disagree. In Supreme Court decisions I have read when a questionable law is found not to have violated the constitution, the justices usually take pains to point out it is an issue that must be decided on a political basis by Congress. That could make the 2012 election a public referendum on Obamacare and if the public is educated about what the program actually contains and the effect it will have on an already over-burdened healthcare system, it could be a republican landslide.

We have a lot of educating to do. . .

51 posted on 11/14/2011 10:42:58 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: 1010RD
It is up to us to take our rights back at the ballot box

Ding,ding,ding,ding . . . . We have a winner!

52 posted on 11/14/2011 10:50:17 AM PST by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: Terry Mross

Terry Mross wrote:
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If the SC rules in favor of obama, it hands him the election. Of course, I’m about 90% convinced it’s all rigged anyway.
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I disagree... If the Supreme Court upholds ObamaCare, I think it will hurt Obama’s re-election chances because the American people clearly DON’T WANT this job-killing, liberty-destroying, budget-busting POS legislation in their lives, as evidence by the resounding rebuke of ObamaCare by the Ohio voters last week. Repealing this monstrosity would be a perfect issue for the GOP presidential nominee to have as part of his/her campaign platform.

Regardless of how the Supreme Court rules, I see it as a lose-lose proposition for Hussein Obama. I just hope the court does the right thing and strikes this heinous law down before it does any further damage to the country and the economy.


53 posted on 11/14/2011 11:10:31 AM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: wbill
Frankly, and without trying to be too hyperbolic, I think that ObamaCare will be the end of American society, at least as we know it.

I detect no hyperbole in your statement at all. In every society that has gone toward Marxism, once they got nationalized control of the doctors, they never went back. Witness Nazi Germany, Bolshevik Russia, and formerly-Great Britain. The only end to such societies is either revolution or outside conquest (or liberation, in the case of Germany, but they went right back to socialism).

54 posted on 11/14/2011 12:21:02 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Dengar01

“ugliest lesbian” - that’s redundant....


55 posted on 11/14/2011 12:24:23 PM PST by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: Second Amendment First

If government can force you to buy things, Freedom is a sham.

REVOLUTION!


56 posted on 11/14/2011 12:30:23 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Gore Lauds Romney on Climate Position; 0bamaCare was based on RomneyCare.)
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To: vette6387
According to Judge Napolitano on Fox Business just now, the SCOTUS DID NOT AGREE TO HEAR THE OBAMACARE CASE! But rather it has agreed to hear whether or not those bringing the case “HAVE THE STANDING TO DO SO!” Personally, I think we need to impeach all of these a$$holes! The country is burning and they continue to fiddle! They are a total disgrace to this nation, every last one of them. They all need to be replaced.

Standing is not an issue in these cases.

The Court granted cert. in four cases, raising the following four issues:

1. Does the Anti-Injunction Act prevent the courts from hearing a challenge to the Act before it goes into effect? (1 hour of argument granted). This is not a "standing" issue, but if the Court decides that the Anti-Injunction Act applies, the courts can't decide the constituionality of the Act until the individual mandate goes into effect. Some of the legal blogs are suggesting that this approach may appeal to Justice Kennedy, because if Congress repeals the Act following the 2012 elections, the constitutional issue will never come up.

2. If the Anti-Injunction Act doesn't apply, is the individual mandate constitutional? (2 hours of argument granted).

3. If the individual mandate is unconstitutional, should it be severed or should the entire Act be struck down? (90 minutes of argument granted).

4. Is the portion of the Act requiring states to increase Medicaid funding constitutional? (1 hour of argument granted). This is a surprise, because none of the lower courts (even the ones which struck down the individual mandate) found this provision unconstitutional.

Incidentally, 5-1/2 hours of argument in the Supreme Court is unprecedented in modern times. They didn't hear that much argument even in Brown v. Board of Education. So the Court clearly recognizes that this is a uniquely important case.

57 posted on 11/14/2011 1:20:12 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Second Amendment First

You know, I tend to get excited over news items like this, only to get hit with the perverbial sledgehammer of disappointment later. So I will hold me enthusiasm until I see that Kagan has recused herself or that Kennedy isn’t channeling his inner Ted Kennedy on this one.


58 posted on 11/14/2011 4:48:45 PM PST by rsflynn (Life is hard....twice as hard if you are stupid -- John Wayne)
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To: All
Someone called into Mark Levin and mentioned the Militia Act of 1792 as a case of gov't requiring Americans to buy things.

It's true, but the caller misses the constitution specifically mentions a "well regulated militia" in the 2nd amendment. The act also limits the requirement to own and maintain arms to registered militiamen who fit criteria of being able-bodied white men between 18 and 45. (Yes, it specifies white men.)

That's much different from requiring all Americans to buy healthcare.

59 posted on 11/14/2011 5:36:24 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: All
Someone called into Mark Levin and mentioned the Militia Act of 1792 as a case of gov't requiring Americans to buy things.

It's true, but the caller misses the constitution specifically mentions a "well regulated militia" in the 2nd amendment. The act also limits the requirement to own and maintain arms to registered militiamen who fit criteria of being able-bodied white men between 18 and 45. (Yes, it specifies white men.)

That's much different from requiring all Americans to buy healthcare.

60 posted on 11/14/2011 5:36:24 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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