Skip to comments.Newt will never, ever be GOP nominee
Posted on 11/15/2011 10:33:39 AM PST by presidio9
Yes, Newt Gingrich has spiked in the polls. No, hes not going to be the nominee. Ive been trying to duck this one because it feels like laying out the obvious, but, briefly, three reasons:
1. The baggage hes always had the marital difficulties, the ethics troubles, a whole bunch of deviations from conservative orthodoxy over the years (such as that ad he shot with Nancy Pelosi: Our country must take action to address climate change) just isnt going to go away. Republican voters dont have those things in mind at the moment, but no candidate is more vulnerable to attack ads than the former Speaker.
2. Message discipline, lack thereof. Its impossible to imagine Newt not saying something that hurts him if theres a microphone in front of his face for a three-week stretch, which is what wouldgoing to happen if the press decides he actually has a chance at winning this thing. We have a couple decades of evidence, including earlier this year, showing that hes just not able to do it. For whatever its worth, Id add that as I read the polling over the years, Newts basic act is unlikely to wear well with voters after extended exposure. People just dont like the guy.
3. Both of those might be overcome, but this one wont: its highly unlikely that anyone who worked with Newt Gingrich when he was Speaker would want him anywhere near the White House. As detailed in many places, but perhaps most memorably by David Maraniss and Michael Weisskopf in their
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
That being said, the longer the msm refers to vague charges of "the marital difficulties, the ethics troubles," the more the whole thing works in Newt's favor. He has been a very public figure for almost 40 years, and the left flat-out hates him, so I'm assuming there is nothing new here. At some point in the very near future he is going to have to address exactly what happened with his first wife, and it will go something like this:
Newt Gingrich was 18 when he married 26 year-old Jackie Battley, his HS geometry teacher. Nine years and two kids later, they had grown apart and Battley, not Gingrich suggested divorce. The went over the papers while she was in the hospital having a benign tumor removed. Not quite as juicy as the hate Gingrich crowd would have you believe, but that's what happened. This does not excuse Gingrich's shameful lack of respect for the sacrament of marriage, but he seems to have undergone a religious epiphany with the help of his current wife, Callista. As a Christian, I am willing to take him at his word on this one. I'm looking for the candidate not named Romney who is best qualified to fix the economy, restore America's place in the word, solve the dysfunction in Congress, and expose Obama in a debate. If character was my only factor, I'd be out campaigning for Tim Tebow.
Then they will move on to the "ethics violations," and someone will probably step in for him, before he even gets a chance to defend himself:
While Newt was speaker, democrats filed 84 ethics sanctions against him. Eighty three were dropped -sound familiar Palinites? The one that stuck had to do with a class he taught. The committee could not agree that a violation had occurred, but the settlement agreement required that he reimburse the committee for the cost of the investigation, $300k. Two years later, the IRS cleared him, but the damage had been done.
Of course there are plenty of people on the left and in the media who will rightly despise the media. The reaction from the general electorate will be a collective "THAT's IT???" It suprises me how many people on this website are not aware of the actual stories? This type of group psychology in popular folklore is how Paul Bunyan ended up a giant with a blue ox.
At this point, hopefully, most people will feel a bit embarassed, shake their heads and take a second look at the man:
There have been two conservative revolutions in my lifetime, Ronald Reagan led one of them and Newt Gingrich inspired the other.
There have been four budgets balanced in my lifetime and Newt Gingrich balanced them all.
There have been two historic upset elections in my lifetime for the House of Representatives, Barak Obama caused one of them and Newt Gingrich crafted the other.
Two entitlements, Social Security and welfare have been reformed in my lifetime, the former occurred under Ronald Reagan and the latter was done by Newt Gingrich.
The government has been shut down twice to reduce spending and Gingrich did it both times.
dunham says hawaii is in asia!!!..
Seems very unlikely. He is going up because he hasnt said anything stupid lately, but when he does he does it BIG!
Who’s this Bernstein person?
Never heard of him.
Sounds pretty bitter about Newt.
Technically, it is part of the pacific plate and not any contintent.
No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.
We are now. Thanks!
seems to me the WaComPost is a bit concerned about Gingrich and his candidacy- probably because this guy would destroy obama in the debates....
and while he’s had some slip ups in the past Gingrich can also offer the credentials of getting America back on the course of fiscal responsibility despite having an uber liberal in the WH...
Somebody please save this and salt it for the author’s future consumption.
Could be a paid hit piece.
The converse of the argument is that Gingrich, love him or hate him, is a known quantity. It’s not like there is some sordid skeleton lurking in his past that we don’t already know about. It’s hard for the media to trash someone who’s already run the gauntlet.
Screw the press. Newt is the best candidate we have and if we don’t start pulling together to tell the MSM that just like in 2010, they won’t be picking our candidates anymore, we’ve lost anyway.
Gingrich/West. We have no better, more experienced and more appealing team. Newt’s got problems. Big deal. Show me the blue dress or STFU.
The current President of the United States did Cocaine.
but none of the Republican candidates can be President because of their inherent character flaws.
there is nothing wrong with our candidates. There is something terribly wrong with the system of knowledge that like a Penn State football coach condones great evil while pretending that the moral universe is intact.
Newt gets how the systemic bias of our intellectual life guarantees the demise of American life. That is what must be overthrown.
This article is like so much useless political chatter— worse than useless.
Newt converted to Catholicism a few years back. He has been different ever since. If Newt has gone before GOD for forgiveness and received it who are we to judge what has already been forgiven. That is pretty much all Newt has to say.
The article also quoted Andrew Sullivan explaining why (s)he does not feel Newt is a conservative.
The Washington Post is dead set against Newt? Well that seals it for me. Newt’s my man.
“No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.”
OBAMA! Four more years!
You think a Moromon or the pizza guy is going to beat him in a general election, you’re nuts. Newt might be far from perfect, but at least he wasn’t a Democrat, like some other shitty Republican Presidents we’ve had in the White House.
Just another liberal pundit who can't think of anything positive to say about our president. The solution is to recycle tired material about Republican candidates. The left doesn't want Romney because he is the most liberal (John Huntsman is). They want Romeny because they know he will have the hardest time making this election about Obamacare.
“probably because this guy would destroy obama in the debates”
Like he destroyed John Kerry by conceding that urgent action is needed to stop global warming?
Because Republicans should let the liberal Washington Post - the same rag that conspired to put Obama in the White House -convince them what a horrible president Newt would be.
Stupid party, indeed.
And who gives a d@mn what anyone in Congress thinks?
Neither will McCain.
Great quote. I'll add it to my list of stupid things FReepers say.
When people on this website throw that word around the way liberals abuse "racist" and "nazi," it ceases to have its full meaning. You may disagree with Newt Gingrich on several points, but he remains one of the giants of modern conservativism, and the left rightly despises him because of it.
Wow, and I was just coming around to the idea that newt could win. OK, who do you support?
I don't know if Newt is the answer, but holy crap: why are we listening to some left-wing wanker from the Washington Post?
The Department of Education was set up by, you guessed it, Newt.
Newt believes that cuts to social programs, necessary to get things under control, are simply “Right-wing social engineering”.
Newt is in favor of ethanol.
He has teamed up with Nancy Pelosi and with Al Sharpton to push the liberal agenda.
Gingrich would wreck what’s left of the economy in his crusade to stop global warming. The man is clearly unstable. Who in their right mind marries their high school geometry teacher? McCain looks sane compared to ol’Newt.
Excellent way to put that.
This article does nothing to sway me.
Newt is now my first choice.
Cain is second.
There are no others, as far as I’m concerned.
It’s pretty much down now to anybody but Romney or Huntsman.
I would add Paul, but it would be worth it for the entertainment value, if nothing else.
Or, as Andrew Sullivan said:
Gingrich is definitionally what conservatism, properly speaking, opposes. Conservatism was born in the eighteenth century against the grand pronouncements of the French philosophes; it roots itself in practice not theory; it distrusts massive, profound reorganization of anything. In all of this, Gingrich is, in fact, conservatisms nemesis: an autodidact megalomaniac, contemptuous of existing institutions, and bent on dragging an entire culture, country and, yes, civilization into a fantastic pocket of his own small mind.
No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.
That’s the money quote.
Newt’s marital problems don’t concern me, nor does the fact that he carried out his new romance while still married. All of that is between him, his wives and God. The ethics charges against Newt were politics as usual from the sleazy left. ...Newt lead the charge with the Contract with America and welfare reform, and his pal Pelosi has lead the way in undoing much of it.
My problem with Newt is that he quit under pressure. What is his position on energy exploitation and global warming, or on socialized medicine, and what compromises will he make under pressure from the establishment? Why after his long hiatus does Newt want to run for president? I think he is in this to help Romney.
Newt’s wife as First Lady! AWK!!
Look at whom this ‘journalist’ names as his supporting cast. David Maraniss and Michael Weisskopf? Please, the 180,000 hit pieces written during Newt’s Spaekership in the media’s effort to protect the sexual degenerate sinkEmperor clintoon relied upon Maraniss and Weisskopf to feed the sleazy lies to the public attention. Weisskopf was probably the source of the lie that ‘Newt’s wife was dying of cnacer in the hospital when Newt forced her to sign divorce papers’. It is time for the American people to remove the power to destroy people from the commie loving degenerates infecting the once viable Fourth Estate. The nedia are the enemy of We The People, if folks haven’t yet noticed.
This is the problem Cult of Personality candidates like Newt always face. Their record never matches the Public Relations mythology being spun about them
I know. I was really disappointed that I didn't have room for that in the excerpt.
I'm not a Gingrich supporter. He's smart and good at debating, but he's a RINO and I wouldn't trust him for dog catcher much less the presidency. He's down near the bottom of my list of eligible *cough* Republicans just before Ron Paul. Romney at the very bottom, of course, tied with Giuliani for when hell freezes over.
Back in the "RUN SARAH RUN" era, to suggest that electability was a concern was to risk riding the lightning, or at least being tagged as a Romney "bot".
Now that Her Grizzliness is not the subject of discussion, I guess that electability is back on the table.
Newt '12 for me.
I don’t know who will end up running for President in the Republician party. I do know that I am sick and tired of having other people tell me who will not be, can not be or is not ready to be President. The media effectively elected Mr. obama, the ineligible citizen (Not Natural Born Citizen). I will make up my own mind and the media and political idiots that think they know everything can take a long walk off a short pier.
If Newt or Herman is the one the Republicans run, then I will vote for them. If the Dems would run anyone other then obama, I would “consider” voting for them.
No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.And you know that Cain won't govern like a RINO based on, well, based on the time he... what I mean to say is, based on... actually, if you take the time Cain served as... well, base it on this... .... .... could you remind me again?
We know Cain won't govern like a RINO... I KNOW! Because he SAYS he won't.
Ok. Got it!
I'm ALL IN with that plan!
Go, go, go!
We're a cheerleader squad now, ain't we?
And Newt's professional, and political, history give them a whole lot more to play off of.