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Newt will never, ever be GOP nominee
Washington Post ^ | 11/15/2011 | Jonathan Bernstein

Posted on 11/15/2011 10:33:39 AM PST by presidio9

Yes, Newt Gingrich has spiked in the polls. No, he’s not going to be the nominee. I’ve been trying to duck this one because it feels like laying out the obvious, but, briefly, three reasons:

1. The baggage he’s always had — the marital difficulties, the ethics troubles, a whole bunch of deviations from conservative orthodoxy over the years (such as that ad he shot with Nancy Pelosi: “Our country must take action to address climate change”) — just isn’t going to go away. Republican voters don’t have those things in mind at the moment, but no candidate is more vulnerable to attack ads than the former Speaker.

2. Message discipline, lack thereof. It’s impossible to imagine Newt not saying something that hurts him if there’s a microphone in front of his face for a three-week stretch, which is what wouldgoing to happen if the press decides he actually has a chance at winning this thing. We have a couple decades of evidence, including earlier this year, showing that he’s just not able to do it. For whatever it’s worth, I’d add that as I read the polling over the years, Newt’s basic act is unlikely to wear well with voters after extended exposure. People just don’t like the guy.

3. Both of those might be overcome, but this one won’t: it’s highly unlikely that anyone who worked with Newt Gingrich when he was Speaker would want him anywhere near the White House. As detailed in many places, but perhaps most memorably by David Maraniss and Michael Weisskopf in their

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Dick Morris was talking yesterday about how candidates learn and grow from each debate. It is undeniable that the man has had a tendency to put his foot in his mouth, but it is also fair to observe that he has grown as a person, and that (as his approach has changed) he has been the star of every debate he's participated in. It's no longer about showing just how smart he is. His consistent goal has to been to draw distinctions between the conservative message and Obama's failed one.

That being said, the longer the msm refers to vague charges of "the marital difficulties, the ethics troubles," the more the whole thing works in Newt's favor. He has been a very public figure for almost 40 years, and the left flat-out hates him, so I'm assuming there is nothing new here. At some point in the very near future he is going to have to address exactly what happened with his first wife, and it will go something like this:

Newt Gingrich was 18 when he married 26 year-old Jackie Battley, his HS geometry teacher. Nine years and two kids later, they had grown apart and Battley, not Gingrich suggested divorce. The went over the papers while she was in the hospital having a benign tumor removed. Not quite as juicy as the hate Gingrich crowd would have you believe, but that's what happened. This does not excuse Gingrich's shameful lack of respect for the sacrament of marriage, but he seems to have undergone a religious epiphany with the help of his current wife, Callista. As a Christian, I am willing to take him at his word on this one. I'm looking for the candidate not named Romney who is best qualified to fix the economy, restore America's place in the word, solve the dysfunction in Congress, and expose Obama in a debate. If character was my only factor, I'd be out campaigning for Tim Tebow.

Then they will move on to the "ethics violations," and someone will probably step in for him, before he even gets a chance to defend himself:

While Newt was speaker, democrats filed 84 ethics sanctions against him. Eighty three were dropped -sound familiar Palinites? The one that stuck had to do with a class he taught. The committee could not agree that a violation had occurred, but the settlement agreement required that he reimburse the committee for the cost of the investigation, $300k. Two years later, the IRS cleared him, but the damage had been done.

Of course there are plenty of people on the left and in the media who will rightly despise the media. The reaction from the general electorate will be a collective "THAT's IT???" It suprises me how many people on this website are not aware of the actual stories? This type of group psychology in popular folklore is how Paul Bunyan ended up a giant with a blue ox.

At this point, hopefully, most people will feel a bit embarassed, shake their heads and take a second look at the man:

There have been two conservative revolutions in my lifetime, Ronald Reagan led one of them and Newt Gingrich inspired the other.

There have been four budgets balanced in my lifetime and Newt Gingrich balanced them all.

There have been two historic upset elections in my lifetime for the House of Representatives, Barak Obama caused one of them and Newt Gingrich crafted the other.

Two entitlements, Social Security and welfare have been reformed in my lifetime, the former occurred under Ronald Reagan and the latter was done by Newt Gingrich.

The government has been shut down twice to reduce spending and Gingrich did it both times.

1 posted on 11/15/2011 10:33:41 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

dunham says hawaii is in asia!!!..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LBGRiB4PEjk#!


2 posted on 11/15/2011 10:34:59 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: presidio9

Seems very unlikely. He is going up because he hasnt said anything stupid lately, but when he does he does it BIG!


3 posted on 11/15/2011 10:36:19 AM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: biggredd1

Who’s this Bernstein person?

Never heard of him.

Sounds pretty bitter about Newt.

Wonder why?


4 posted on 11/15/2011 10:36:31 AM PST by RexBeach (There is no such thing as a good tax - Winston Churchill)
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To: biggredd1
http://www.mantleplumes.org/images/VolcBombs1_741.jpg

Technically, it is part of the pacific plate and not any contintent.

5 posted on 11/15/2011 10:38:26 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.


6 posted on 11/15/2011 10:38:31 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: presidio9
It suprises me how many people on this website are not aware of the actual stories?

We are now. Thanks!

7 posted on 11/15/2011 10:38:31 AM PST by GSWarrior (I only want to hear the truth. Is that so wrong?)
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To: presidio9

seems to me the WaComPost is a bit concerned about Gingrich and his candidacy- probably because this guy would destroy obama in the debates....

and while he’s had some slip ups in the past Gingrich can also offer the credentials of getting America back on the course of fiscal responsibility despite having an uber liberal in the WH...


8 posted on 11/15/2011 10:38:34 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: presidio9

Somebody please save this and salt it for the author’s future consumption.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 10:39:01 AM PST by G Larry (Catholic Conservative Supporting Israel!)
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To: RexBeach

Could be a paid hit piece.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 10:39:17 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: presidio9

The converse of the argument is that Gingrich, love him or hate him, is a known quantity. It’s not like there is some sordid skeleton lurking in his past that we don’t already know about. It’s hard for the media to trash someone who’s already run the gauntlet.


11 posted on 11/15/2011 10:39:51 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: presidio9

Screw the press. Newt is the best candidate we have and if we don’t start pulling together to tell the MSM that just like in 2010, they won’t be picking our candidates anymore, we’ve lost anyway.

Gingrich/West. We have no better, more experienced and more appealing team. Newt’s got problems. Big deal. Show me the blue dress or STFU.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 10:40:38 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: presidio9

The current President of the United States did Cocaine.

but none of the Republican candidates can be President because of their inherent character flaws.

there is nothing wrong with our candidates. There is something terribly wrong with the system of knowledge that like a Penn State football coach condones great evil while pretending that the moral universe is intact.

Newt gets how the systemic bias of our intellectual life guarantees the demise of American life. That is what must be overthrown.

This article is like so much useless political chatter— worse than useless.


13 posted on 11/15/2011 10:41:01 AM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: RexBeach
He appears to be a blogger that bloggers at the Washington Post like to repost.
14 posted on 11/15/2011 10:41:39 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: presidio9

Newt converted to Catholicism a few years back. He has been different ever since. If Newt has gone before GOD for forgiveness and received it who are we to judge what has already been forgiven. That is pretty much all Newt has to say.


15 posted on 11/15/2011 10:41:58 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: presidio9

The article also quoted Andrew Sullivan explaining why (s)he does not feel Newt is a conservative.


16 posted on 11/15/2011 10:42:45 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: presidio9

The Washington Post is dead set against Newt? Well that seals it for me. Newt’s my man.


17 posted on 11/15/2011 10:43:02 AM PST by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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To: South40

“No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.”

OBAMA! Four more years!

You think a Moromon or the pizza guy is going to beat him in a general election, you’re nuts. Newt might be far from perfect, but at least he wasn’t a Democrat, like some other shitty Republican Presidents we’ve had in the White House.


18 posted on 11/15/2011 10:43:12 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: presidio9
Newt could only insure one thing, that is obummer would get a second term.
19 posted on 11/15/2011 10:43:17 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: RexBeach
Who’s this Bernstein person?

Just another liberal pundit who can't think of anything positive to say about our president. The solution is to recycle tired material about Republican candidates. The left doesn't want Romney because he is the most liberal (John Huntsman is). They want Romeny because they know he will have the hardest time making this election about Obamacare.

20 posted on 11/15/2011 10:43:37 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: God luvs America

“probably because this guy would destroy obama in the debates”

Like he destroyed John Kerry by conceding that urgent action is needed to stop global warming?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19dCkabVBbY

Fail.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 10:44:10 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: biggredd1

Because Republicans should let the liberal Washington Post - the same rag that conspired to put Obama in the White House -convince them what a horrible president Newt would be.

Stupid party, indeed.


22 posted on 11/15/2011 10:44:24 AM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: presidio9
Life us getting really hard when one has to agree with WaPo, but in this case I must...not necessarily for all the same reasons, I do.
23 posted on 11/15/2011 10:44:38 AM PST by fantail 1952 (Common sense foreign policy: Help your friends. Whip your enemies. Sort out the rest.)
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To: jessduntno

X2


24 posted on 11/15/2011 10:44:57 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: presidio9
Newt's been married before? That should eliminate him for sure. /s

And who gives a d@mn what anyone in Congress thinks?

25 posted on 11/15/2011 10:45:03 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Cain/Newt)
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To: presidio9
Here's why Newt will never be the nominee...

Newt Gingrich endorses Dede Scozzafava in NY-23 House race

Gingrich Explains Scozzafava Endorsement, Slams Right-Wing Critics

Memo to Gingrich: Get Lost. Now

Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance

Gingrich donors dropping like flies

Bill Bennett to Gingrich: You’re Shooting at [Paul Ryan] From Behind! (Testy Radio Interview)

Mark Levin grills Newt Gingrich on his comments about Paul Ryan’s plan

Gingrich Calls GOP Medicare Plan 'Right-Wing Social Engineering' (supports individual mandate)

Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance (Newt praises Romneycare)

Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate

Gingrich Apologizes to Paul Ryan for 'Right-Wing Social Engineering' Criticism

Gingrich: ‘Strategic Blunder’ for Palin to Mock Obama as ‘Community Organizer’

Newt Gingrich Acknowledges ‘Contradictions’ On His Libya Views, ‘I Was Trying To Follow Obama’

Gingrich: My Ad on Global Warming with Pelosi was a "Debate," I will "Not Apologize"

Kerry and Gingrich Hugging Trees -- and (Almost) Each Other

26 posted on 11/15/2011 10:45:10 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: presidio9

Neither will McCain.


27 posted on 11/15/2011 10:45:58 AM PST by Starstruck
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To: jessduntno
"OBAMA! Four more years!"
~jessduntno

Great quote. I'll add it to my list of stupid things FReepers say.

28 posted on 11/15/2011 10:46:43 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: South40
No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.

When people on this website throw that word around the way liberals abuse "racist" and "nazi," it ceases to have its full meaning. You may disagree with Newt Gingrich on several points, but he remains one of the giants of modern conservativism, and the left rightly despises him because of it.

29 posted on 11/15/2011 10:47:22 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: South40
No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.

Wow, and I was just coming around to the idea that newt could win. OK, who do you support?

30 posted on 11/15/2011 10:48:57 AM PST by TonyInOhio ( Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life)
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To: RexBeach
Can we please stop letting liberal Democrat journalists decide who our nominees are going to be??????

I don't know if Newt is the answer, but holy crap: why are we listening to some left-wing wanker from the Washington Post?

31 posted on 11/15/2011 10:49:38 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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32 posted on 11/15/2011 10:49:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: presidio9

The Department of Education was set up by, you guessed it, Newt.

Newt believes that cuts to social programs, necessary to get things under control, are simply “Right-wing social engineering”.

Newt is in favor of ethanol.

He has teamed up with Nancy Pelosi and with Al Sharpton to push the liberal agenda.

No thanks.


33 posted on 11/15/2011 10:51:00 AM PST by Ingtar
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To: jessduntno

Gingrich would wreck what’s left of the economy in his crusade to stop global warming. The man is clearly unstable. Who in their right mind marries their high school geometry teacher? McCain looks sane compared to ol’Newt.


34 posted on 11/15/2011 10:51:21 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: G Larry

Excellent way to put that.


35 posted on 11/15/2011 10:51:32 AM PST by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 11/15/2011 10:51:56 AM PST by RexBeach (There is no such thing as a good tax - Winston Churchill)
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To: presidio9

This article does nothing to sway me.

Newt is now my first choice.

Cain is second.

There are no others, as far as I’m concerned.


37 posted on 11/15/2011 10:52:20 AM PST by samtheman
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To: andy58-in-nh

It’s pretty much down now to anybody but Romney or Huntsman.

I would add Paul, but it would be worth it for the entertainment value, if nothing else.


38 posted on 11/15/2011 10:52:25 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: presidio9

Or, as Andrew Sullivan said:

Gingrich is definitionally what conservatism, properly speaking, opposes. Conservatism was born in the eighteenth century against the grand pronouncements of the French philosophes; it roots itself in practice not theory; it distrusts massive, profound reorganization of anything. In all of this, Gingrich is, in fact, conservatism’s nemesis: an autodidact megalomaniac, contemptuous of existing institutions, and bent on dragging an entire culture, country and, yes, civilization into a fantastic pocket of his own small mind.


39 posted on 11/15/2011 10:52:43 AM PST by sodpoodle (Loving America is not a fashion statement.)
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To: South40

“No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.”

That’s the money quote.


40 posted on 11/15/2011 10:52:51 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: presidio9

Newt’s marital problems don’t concern me, nor does the fact that he carried out his new romance while still married. All of that is between him, his wives and God. The ethics charges against Newt were politics as usual from the sleazy left. ...Newt lead the charge with the Contract with America and welfare reform, and his pal Pelosi has lead the way in undoing much of it.

My problem with Newt is that he quit under pressure. What is his position on energy exploitation and global warming, or on socialized medicine, and what compromises will he make under pressure from the establishment? Why after his long hiatus does Newt want to run for president? I think he is in this to help Romney.


41 posted on 11/15/2011 10:52:51 AM PST by pallis
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To: sickoflibs

Newt’s wife as First Lady! AWK!!


42 posted on 11/15/2011 10:53:25 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: lonestar67

Look at whom this ‘journalist’ names as his supporting cast. David Maraniss and Michael Weisskopf? Please, the 180,000 hit pieces written during Newt’s Spaekership in the media’s effort to protect the sexual degenerate sinkEmperor clintoon relied upon Maraniss and Weisskopf to feed the sleazy lies to the public attention. Weisskopf was probably the source of the lie that ‘Newt’s wife was dying of cnacer in the hospital when Newt forced her to sign divorce papers’. It is time for the American people to remove the power to destroy people from the commie loving degenerates infecting the once viable Fourth Estate. The nedia are the enemy of We The People, if folks haven’t yet noticed.


43 posted on 11/15/2011 10:53:29 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Josh Painter
Make a case FOR Newt that doesn't revolve around "Newt is so smart, he would destroy Obama in a debate"

This is the problem Cult of Personality candidates like Newt always face. Their record never matches the Public Relations mythology being spun about them

44 posted on 11/15/2011 10:53:36 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Sans-Culotte
The article also quoted Andrew Sullivan explaining why (s)he does not feel Newt is a conservative.

I know. I was really disappointed that I didn't have room for that in the excerpt.

45 posted on 11/15/2011 10:53:41 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: jessduntno
I like this one also.

I'm not a Gingrich supporter. He's smart and good at debating, but he's a RINO and I wouldn't trust him for dog catcher much less the presidency. He's down near the bottom of my list of eligible *cough* Republicans just before Ron Paul. Romney at the very bottom, of course, tied with Giuliani for when hell freezes over.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2807007/posts?page=50#50

46 posted on 11/15/2011 10:54:16 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: org.whodat
Newt could only insure one thing, that is obummer would get a second term.

Back in the "RUN SARAH RUN" era, to suggest that electability was a concern was to risk riding the lightning, or at least being tagged as a Romney "bot".

Now that Her Grizzliness is not the subject of discussion, I guess that electability is back on the table.

Newt '12 for me.

47 posted on 11/15/2011 10:54:58 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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To: presidio9

I don’t know who will end up running for President in the Republician party. I do know that I am sick and tired of having other people tell me who will not be, can not be or is not ready to be President. The media effectively elected Mr. obama, the ineligible citizen (Not Natural Born Citizen). I will make up my own mind and the media and political idiots that think they know everything can take a long walk off a short pier.

If Newt or Herman is the one the Republicans run, then I will vote for them. If the Dems would run anyone other then obama, I would “consider” voting for them.


48 posted on 11/15/2011 10:55:26 AM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama (the squatter in the White House) is Not a Natural Born Citizen!!)
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To: South40
No RINOs, no Newt, no thanks.
And you know that Cain won't govern like a RINO based on, well, based on the time he... what I mean to say is, based on... actually, if you take the time Cain served as... well, base it on this... .... .... could you remind me again?

We know Cain won't govern like a RINO... I KNOW! Because he SAYS he won't.

Ok. Got it!

I'm in.

I'm ALL IN with that plan!

Go, go, go!

We're a cheerleader squad now, ain't we?

49 posted on 11/15/2011 10:55:43 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SpaceBar
There were no skeletons in Cain's past. Did not stop the smear machine from simply manufacturing them at will.

And Newt's professional, and political, history give them a whole lot more to play off of.

50 posted on 11/15/2011 10:56:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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