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Review: Joe Paterno in line for pension
espn.com ^ | 11/15/11

Posted on 11/15/2011 6:08:38 PM PST by Former Fetus

Former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno's long service at the university theoretically puts him in line for a pension of more than $500,000 a year, according to an Associated Press analysis of state public pension records.

Paterno's pension records obtained Tuesday from the State Employees' Retirement System credit him with more than 60 years in the system. The formula used to determine benefits makes him eligible for a pension equal to 100 percent of the average of his three highest-salary years.

His pay rose from $541,000 to $568,000 over the past three full calendar years.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: paterno; pedstate; pennstate; psu
Somehow this makes it more difficult to feel sorry for him. What did he know and when did he know it? Did he keep quiet because he was intimidated at the idea of exposing a gay man, or did he keep quiet to keep on building his retirement? I am sorry, but I'm human and cannot help but wondering.
1 posted on 11/15/2011 6:08:39 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

THIS is why I don’t support college sports. Kids that shouldn’t even be at college get a free education while not even having to attend class. It is total corruption based on the FALSE belief that sports brings revenue to colleges.


2 posted on 11/15/2011 6:10:39 PM PST by macquire
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To: Former Fetus

And he’s laughing all the way to the bank...


3 posted on 11/15/2011 6:12:32 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: Former Fetus

the lesson is... don’t hire homosexuals if there are kids anywhere nearby. if you do, you open your company up to liability lawsuits since homosexuals have a MUCH higher incident rate of child attacks


4 posted on 11/15/2011 6:14:24 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Former Fetus

It’s surprising he wasn’t making 5 million a year. He worked at a public institution for 50 years. Who could be surprised he’s got a pension coming? It’s not like he will be collecting it for 40 years, like some 3rd grade teachers.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 6:14:39 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Former Fetus

I hope he goes to prison for his disgusting coverup of that monster, Sandusky. I don’t think the pervert could’ve kept sodomizing boys without JoPa looking the other way.

Prison for JoPa and, therefore, no pension.


6 posted on 11/15/2011 6:15:57 PM PST by laweeks
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To: laweeks

What a sad legacy...for JoePa and PSU :(


7 posted on 11/15/2011 6:19:12 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Former Fetus
Lock him up, tie him down. Let the ‘others’ deal with him. I will volunteer a pipe.
8 posted on 11/15/2011 6:19:34 PM PST by allmost
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To: Former Fetus

Well, just think of all the money old Joe brought in for the school. Obviously from the reaction of the media and the Penn St. crowd, he was the most valuable asset the school had. Money talks especially loudly on university campuses.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 6:21:49 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: Former Fetus

Half a million a year.

wow.

Those poor deprived public servants.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 6:21:54 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Former Fetus
Former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno's long service at the university theoretically puts him in line for a pension of more than $500,000 a year, according to an Associated Press analysis of state public pension records.

I for one do not begrudge JoePa one penny for the pension he has earned during his many years with Penn State.

11 posted on 11/15/2011 6:23:01 PM PST by olezip
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To: Former Fetus

Clear case of the need for caps on public pensions tied to the level of contributions of the individual retiree. If he had actually actuarially made payments into his retirement fund that would legitimize a $500K per year pension then so be it. His legal situation is something else.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 6:28:18 PM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: Former Fetus

Clear case of the need for caps on public pensions tied to the level of contributions of the individual retiree. If he had actually actuarially made payments into his retirement fund that would legitimize a $500K per year pension then so be it. His legal situation is something else.


13 posted on 11/15/2011 6:28:48 PM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: laweeks

yes by all means lets skip the fair trial and just hang him
and damn finding the facts of the case.

sounds like a lynch mob here...


14 posted on 11/15/2011 6:29:30 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Former Fetus

FYI - the formula for PA state pensions is .025 x Years of Service x Avg of 3 Highest Years of Salary.


15 posted on 11/15/2011 6:31:15 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: RitchieAprile

Your method is reality. You can complain?


16 posted on 11/15/2011 6:32:49 PM PST by allmost
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To: sten

That would have been a difficult lesson to apply in this case, considering that Sandusky was not outwardly homosexual, as he has been married (to a woman - sadly, one needs to specify that these days) for many years.


17 posted on 11/15/2011 6:33:08 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Sick woman imo.


18 posted on 11/15/2011 6:35:42 PM PST by allmost
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To: Former Fetus

Until I know the answer to what he knew, who he told, etc. I’ll withhold further judgement. That said, he worked for his employer for more than 60 years... so as a capitalist, I’m fine with his pension.


19 posted on 11/15/2011 6:39:03 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Former Fetus

A pension? After making over $500k a year for the past decade?


20 posted on 11/15/2011 6:44:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Couldn’t agree MORE.

FR is infested with such vile hatred and blood lust it is appalling.

Some on FR use victimized children like human shields to defend their vile, sadistic, and sickening statements.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 6:50:03 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Until I know the answer to what he knew, who he told, etc. I’ll withhold further judgement.

I agree. I believe Joe passed what McQuery told him word ro word along to Curley. Curley and Shultz (University Police Supervisor) had meetings with McQuery to get the story directly from McQuery (meetings Joe wasn't invited to). Who knows what McQuery actually told Joe. Probably wasn't the same story he told Curley and Shultz. McQuery now says he stopped Sandusky in the shower - conflicts with the Grand Jury report.

22 posted on 11/15/2011 6:50:48 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: Former Fetus

A deal is a deal.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 6:51:01 PM PST by Diggity
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To: Blood of Tyrants

JoePa was one of the lowest paid coaches in major college football.


24 posted on 11/15/2011 6:51:40 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: RitchieAprile

Who said anything about skipping the trial? Put him on trial.


25 posted on 11/15/2011 7:00:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: RitchieAprile
sounds like a lynch mob here...

Sorry, but I've never had any use for JoPa . . . over-rated and entirely way past his prime . . . and to get anywhere near this Sandusky animal as any kind of a friend is absolutely disgusting. I hope they end up in the same cell so Joe can better appreciate Sandusky's perversion. Prison jammies are in order.

26 posted on 11/15/2011 7:00:44 PM PST by laweeks
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To: NittanyLion

Sounds like Paterno was massively underpaid in today’s standards for division 1 football head coaches. His pension is his pension... the two issues have nothing to do with each other.


27 posted on 11/15/2011 7:02:39 PM PST by Benjamin Dover (This tagline space for rent)
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To: LeonardFMason

You said a mouthful sicko.


28 posted on 11/15/2011 7:22:30 PM PST by allmost
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To: Former Fetus

half a mill a year and he got fired. Where do I sign up?


29 posted on 11/15/2011 7:50:26 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: LeonardFMason; RitchieAprile; laweeks
Some on FR use victimized children like human shields to defend their vile, sadistic, and sickening statements. [LeonardFMason, post #21]

It's been as much the reverse if you've read enough of these Penn State threads...

It's Paterno & Penn State defenders who neglect to even mention victimized children in context with Penn State. We've seen people call Grand Jury Presentments based upon testimony in the "Finding of Fact" section..."hearsay"...

We get JoePologists defending what he knew and what he didn't know without even reading p. 7 of the Grand Jury Presentment that mentions him.

yes by all means lets skip the fair trial and just hang him and damn finding the facts of the case. sounds like a lynch mob here... [RitchieAprile, post #14 -- reinforced by LeonardFMason's "amen" type of post -- "Couldn't agree more" @ #21]

First of all, what "trial" in what "jurisdiction" are you BOTH even talking about?"

Did we all miss a headline somewhere that Joe Paterno's been charged with something?

How can we wait for something that appears won't ever come?

And hanging?[RA's term]
By lynching? [RA's term]
Blood lust? [LFM's term]

What? Do they do that in Pennsylvania for covering up less-than-lethal crimes? Do they let out blood of the accused there?

NO???

Oh. I get it. You're BOTH engaging in extreme hyperbole. You're over the top...because a few posters on the other side of perspectives have also been over the top.

But wait. If it's "OK" for you to be over the top, why not them?

I see, Leonard, you must "hate" those you label as engaging in "vile hatred." (Please provide living examples -- real phrases and real FREEPERS who have engaged in that...yup...that's a dare...and if you don't come up with something, then please reconsider posting false accusations the next time you post)

Now, in case you're both using symbolic language about a "trial" -- as in the "trial" of public opinion, columnist Scott Ostler dealt with that component quite well last week:

Several e-mailers demand, "Have you ever heard of due process?" The due process I've heard of involves a justice system and a legal trial. Paterno faces no legal action or charge. Legally, his rear end is covered.

But there was no trial when Paterno was sainted, no jury declared him one of the noblest and finest college coaches of all time. The public decided. It's the same deal on the flip side. We'll take the facts and form them into our personal legacy of Joe Paterno.

Source: Penn State's Joe Paterno gets what he deserves

30 posted on 11/15/2011 8:15:21 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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To: allmost

“Lock him up, tie him down. Let the ‘others’ deal with him. I will volunteer a PIPE”

You’ll volunteer the pipe?

Only someone with a sick, perverted, sadistic, evil mind, full of homosexual fantasies would have a thought like that.

You calling me “sicko”? In light of the homo-eroticism in your prison scenario, that is called PROJECTION.

Seek help. Don’t waste time polluting FR.


31 posted on 11/15/2011 8:27:09 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Former Fetus
You don't even WANT to know what I misread that title as...

NO cheers, unfortunately.

32 posted on 11/15/2011 9:09:37 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Your screen name is too effeminate to make such posts a low-risk activity.

Cheers!

33 posted on 11/15/2011 9:23:21 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Colofornian

Your dare?

POST 8 “Review, Joe Paterno in line for pension.” Posted by allmost

“Lock him(Joe Paterno) up, tie him down. Let the ‘others’ deal with him. I will volunteer a pipe”

If that isn’t vile and HATEFUL what is? Go ahead an parse away. Is that normal thought in your world. Is that hyperbole? Filtered through your mind it will be probably be described as a friendly suggestion and kind offer.

“allmost” suggests he would help in the anal rape of an 85 year old man, right here on FREE REPUBLIC. Classy.

Is being outraged over the sexual assault of a child an excuse to encourage the forcible rape of an 85 year old man by having a pipe shoved in his ass?

I’ll call it VILE, EVIL, and HATEFUL. You can minimize it all you want.


34 posted on 11/15/2011 9:23:32 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: LeonardFMason
I’ll call it VILE, EVIL, and HATEFUL. You can minimize it all you want.

(I don't have to minimize it; YOU have to prove your contention in post #21, which you you STILL haven't done.)

Your post #21: FR is INFESTED with such vile hatred and blood lust it is appalling.

One post does not an "infestation" make.

35 posted on 11/15/2011 9:59:10 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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LOL. I gave you ONE. If I gave you 5, you would want 10.

Doesn’t it trouble you that ANYONE on FR would suggest taking a pipe to an 85 year old man’s ass?

Everyone is outraged that there was a “look the other way” permissive attitude at PSU. Someone suggests holding down an 85 year old man and raping him with a pipe and what do you get? Was there an immediate repudiation from a large number of responsible Freepers? Sorry to say there was not.

I guess I see your point. It was only ONE person who suggested such a violent and perverted action. We should not address it. Better to ignore and move on hoping the person doesn’t do it again. Time will pass. Hopefully it will be forgotten.

Sounds familiar doesn’t it?

I WILL back off the word “infestation”. Let’s go with CRAWLING.


36 posted on 11/16/2011 10:59:55 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: LeonardFMason; allmost
If I gave you 5, you would want 10.

What does "infestation" mean to you? Is 10 FREEPERS out of thousands reflective of an "infestation?" Really?

I WILL back off the word “infestation”. Let’s go with CRAWLING

You know, Leonard, people are NOT cockroaches. Nor are they termites...as your carefully chosen words of "infestation" and "crawling" depict.

And even allmost's putrid post #8 doesn't make him/her a cockroach or a termite, despite your opinions to the contrary.

This is what makes your posts so ironic.

You jump on Allmost's case for engaging in "vile hatred"; but then you apparently don't label yourself referencing MANY FREEPERS as the equivalent of cockroaches or termites as "vile hatred." Why not? Didn't the tribe in Rwanda who did most of the killings (of other tribal members) in the 1990s start off with radio broadcasts labeling their intended victims as "cockroaches?"

Doesn’t it trouble you that ANYONE on FR would suggest taking a pipe to an 85 year old man’s ass?

Yes. And when I'm done responding here, I'll respond to that post.

Everyone is outraged that there was a “look the other way” permissive attitude at PSU. Someone suggests holding down an 85 year old man and raping him with a pipe and what do you get? Was there an immediate repudiation from a large number of responsible Freepers? Sorry to say there was not.

Agreed. Sorry to say there wasn't as well.

You can't assume that we read every post, Leonard. Very bad assumption.

I didn't read post #8 til you pointed it out. I didn't ignore it; but I was ignorant of its content.

I responded to your comment because, in part, I haven't seen an "infestation" on ANY thread no matter how long. So why would there be one with less than 30 posts?

But I appreciate you sharing its provocative nature.

37 posted on 11/16/2011 12:47:15 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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To: allmost; LeonardFMason
Lock him up...

I'm not JoePa defender, but ya gotta charge him first...

...tie him down.

Why? I guess kidnapping is contagious, eh?

Let the ‘others’ deal with him. I will volunteer a pipe.

Street 'justice,' eh? Provocation doesn't = street revenge.

If God allowed 'street justice' for all the times we've abused and dissed Him and violated His ways...we'd be better off hiding in caves.

38 posted on 11/16/2011 12:54:11 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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