H.R. 822 National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011 (house vote today)

gop.gov ^ | 11/16/11 | staff

[umgud]

On Wednesday, November 16, 2011, the House is scheduled consider H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011, under a rule. The rule provides for one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary. Additionally, the rule makes in order ten amendments, each debatable for ten minutes each, and provides for one motion to recommit with or without instructions. The bill was introduced by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) on February 18, 2011, and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

The bill would allow individuals with valid state-issued concealed firearm permits or licenses to carry a concealed firearm in any other state that also issues concealed firearm permits or licenses, or in any other state that does not generally prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms. H.R. 822 would require the Comptroller General of the U.S. to conduct an audit of the laws and regulations of each state that authorizes the issuance of a valid permit or license to permit a nonresident to possess or carry a concealed firearm. The audit would include a description of the permitting or licensing requirements of each state that issues concealed carry permits or licenses to persons other than the residents of that state. The audit would also include the number of valid permits and licenses issued or denied (and the basis for the denial) by each state, and the effectiveness of state laws and regulations in protecting public safety.

[WOBBLY BOB]

Probably DOA in the Senate and the juggeared marxist would veto it any way.

[umgud]

I agree with your entire position. But I also believe that in practice, we don’t have 2A rights. We have privileges that are doled out at the gov’t whim. Infringement seems to be the rule of the land. Even after Heller, go try to buy a gun in DC.

Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

[Oatka]

Gun Owners of America isn't too happy with it.

HERE

[klb99]

I’m an NRA member so I’ve read their position on this, but I re-read again just now. This phrase is what I think is a potential problem:
“only such rules and regulations as are necessary to carry out” the GCA’s provisions”....

It’s the camel’s nose under a tent and I don’t want the feds to further butt into anything. I don’t trust them an inch - there are not enough 2nd Amendment supporters. The recent SCOTUS decisions in our favor were 5/4 and that should scare everybody. Shoulda been 9/0. They overreach in every aspect of our lives right now. Beware the Trojan horse...they are not doing our side any favors.

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[umgud]

Our problem is that we need our gov’t to guarantee and protect our 2A rights, but it is them who have trampled on our rights.

[Phlyer]

For the rest of us, let's pass this bill.

How about if we get our congresscritters to make a 'sense of Congress' declaration that the Supreme Court should rule in line with what the Constitution acually says?

Nonetheless, the fact is that Congress has usurped many powers not granted to them, and the Supreme Court has gone along with it. It's piling on another bad precedent to try to undo prior bad precedents - treating the symptoms rather than the disease - but it may be necessary.

As the saying goes: The US Constitution describes a wonderful form of government - far superior to the one we live under.

[archy]

I opposed this on 10th Amendment grounds. Don’t want the feds interfering in state issues at all......this will require them to have access to all the gun purchase/registration/CCW applications in all the states. None of their business.

Concur. I'd have preferred to see states whose CCW licenses are ignored in other states deny recognition of the drivers' licenses and vehicle registrations of those nonreciprocating states in response, as is now being considered in a couple of the westgern states.

And don't kid yourself. The feds have copies of the CCW/CCH license holders in everry state that issues them. Every one.

[archy]

See following: H.R. 822

[Nebr FAL owner]

It will die in the Senate if it isn’t voted down by a majority of BOTH parties.
Neither the Republicans or the Democrats want you to have the right to defend yourself s that makes you not dependent on government.
If you are not dependent on government you do not need politicians ,you don’t need politicians they lose power & that is what really motivates a politician not love of service to their fellow man.

[Nebr FAL owner]

Attempted poison pill for the bill the woman is a totalitarian & autocratic oligarch. She is also a supporter of the Occupy movement ,so that means that if she had her way there would reeducation camps & mass graves for those who did not agree with her.