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Gingrich: ‘I’m a genuine, intellectual conservative’ (gives his ideas on illegals and the border)
American Independent ^ | November 16, 2011 | Douglas Burns

Posted on 11/16/2011 11:50:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

CARROLL — As he surged to the top of two national polls Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich spent nearly three hours at the Santa Maria Winery in Carroll on Monday, speaking with voters, taking questions, signing books and screening a movie he co-developed celebrating Pope John Paul II.

Gingrich also conducted a 10-minute interview with The Carroll Daily Times Herald and La Prensa, an Iowa Spanish-language newspaper, before going on air nationally with Fox News’ Sean Hannity from a makeshift, temporary studio...

....La Prensa asked Gingrich’s reaction to an often-repeated line from Cain about constructing a border fence with Mexico so that it can electrocute immigrants, and possibly even snare them in an associated moat stocked with alligators.

“It was a bad idea,” Gingrich said.

He added, “I hope he was joking. I’d like to think he was joking.”

Gingrich then turned to his own immigration plans, calling for control of the border in a way that is “human and practical.”

“I’m working on an immigration program which is firm but at the same time has a human aspect to it that I think most Hispanic Americans would appreciate,” Gingrich said.

Earlier, in a question-and-answer session with voters in the winery, Gingrich said he wanted to impose severe penalties for employers who hired undocumented workers. Moreover, he put forward a plan modeled on the Selective Service System used by the military in World War II in which local committees of citizens could help determine the immigration status of a city’s illegal residents based on factors like how long they’ve lived in the area, family roots and contributions socially and in business.

Gingrich said rhetoric about deporting all illegal immigrants isn’t realistic.

“I think it’s very unlikely the American people are going to break up families,” Gingrich said...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanindependent.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopprimary; immigration; iowa
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yep, Prokopton set me straight.
41 posted on 11/16/2011 12:21:05 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Timber Rattler

Tell me how Newt’s positions on border control are different from Juan McCain’s?


42 posted on 11/16/2011 12:21:16 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That tuition deal is incentive to come!
43 posted on 11/16/2011 12:21:45 PM PST by TheGunny
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To: Jim Robinson

Agree 100%


44 posted on 11/16/2011 12:22:45 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: CajunConservative

He did not. He said it would be heartless to push them out of an airplane...versus giving them a parachute first (not heartless). ( It’s called comprehension....)


45 posted on 11/16/2011 12:23:24 PM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: biggredd1
Thanks! I like that -- it's true!

Obama and socialism and Rush said Newt is the only one going after Obama.

I guess Rush missed this earlier Perry ad.

President ZERO 2,0059,058 views

46 posted on 11/16/2011 12:23:38 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Vigilanteman
Tell me how Newt’s positions on border control are different from Juan McCain’s?

They aren't. That's the point.

47 posted on 11/16/2011 12:24:43 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gingrich said rhetoric about deporting all illegal immigrants isn't realistic.

"I think it's very unlikely the American people are going to break up families," Gingrich said...

Hey, Newt, ask the families of the 50,000 Americans killed by illegal immigrants since 9/11/01 how they feel about deporting all illegals and their concerns about breaking up families. The illegals' families are free to go with them. How about everyone else who has to pay for the illegals and their anchor babies? Money stolen from working Americans to support these illegal invaders. Hospitals closing due to unpaid bills, healthcare costs through the roof, unemployment at 9% while millions of illegals work under the table. And you think we care if someone who has broken the law for years has to go home? Typical out of touch career, elitist politician.

Oh, and Perry's no different. Especially on this issue.

48 posted on 11/16/2011 12:25:03 PM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And exactly how is going to seal the border??? He doesn’t want a fence. He doesn’t want e-verify. One cannot station troops on the border without running the risl of violating posse commitatus regulations. Tell us please, what is planning other than amnesty?


49 posted on 11/16/2011 12:25:23 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Fawn
WHO DO YOU WANT?

None of the above.

50 posted on 11/16/2011 12:26:25 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: TheGunny
That tuition deal is incentive to come!

No. The border not being sealed and the Feds saying you can't check immigration status in public schools or refuse health care. It's the people who hire them. It's the violence along the border. It's a miserable Mexican government that is too corrupt to begin to build a middle class. It's a lot of things but the tiny number who use the instate tuition is so small that it is NOT why they are coming into the U.S.

We need a conservative ascendancy in the U.S. not a drive them into the Democratic Party machine ascendancy. Perry is strong on this issue and he is the ONLY one running who will roll up his sleeves and FINALLY fix this.

51 posted on 11/16/2011 12:29:29 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Timber Rattler

I’ll bet I can call your bluff ......


52 posted on 11/16/2011 12:29:39 PM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: Deb
I sure hate it when politicians disappoint me and change their stand on issues over 20 years.

I think you mean "change their positions on issues again and again and again and again over 20 years". LOL
53 posted on 11/16/2011 12:29:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Irenic
“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.” ― Ronald Reagan Promises, try eating them, not very filling.
54 posted on 11/16/2011 12:29:54 PM PST by itsahoot (There was a bloodless coup in 08, and no one seemed to notice. God help us.)
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To: Fawn

Spin it anyway you want. Newt’s own words, votes, policies, etc. are out there showing he is just as much a big government supporter than the Dems.

Gingrich on video from 7:00 to 25:07 - Overall immigration to make it as inexpensive and easy as possible. Goal as president to have all illegals in the country now be American citizens within 5 to 10 years. Much more.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11208416

Newt’s website for legal and illegal Hispanice (to unite them all), Gingrich Communications, Newt Gingrich, founder:

http://theamericano.com/


55 posted on 11/16/2011 12:30:53 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: Hugin

Thank you for that post. You get it.


56 posted on 11/16/2011 12:34:52 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012.“I’ve got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: Nifster
Strategic fencing (Perry has always agreed with it) in urban areas where it works, drones and other intelligence assets, lots of boots on the ground. If it takes troops on the border to kill off drug, human and gun running cartels, do it. Once the border is sealed, secure and safe then and ONLY then, can the subject of immigrant workers and how they can come and go be addressed. And there will be NO amnesty.

Oct 6, 2011 Interviewing Rick Perry On Illegal Immigration [10 Points]

57 posted on 11/16/2011 12:35:52 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Fawn
"Who do you want?"

Like many on here, they seem to want anybody but anybody. In other words, no one. Who can pass the litmus tests set out on this forum? By piling on every candidate they are making themselves irrelevent.

58 posted on 11/16/2011 12:37:16 PM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Do your own little poll and find out if you have converted one Freeper to Perry?

You might find that you have worked to the detriment of your chosen candidate.


59 posted on 11/16/2011 12:37:29 PM PST by itsahoot (There was a bloodless coup in 08, and no one seemed to notice. God help us.)
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To: TheGunny
That tuition deal is incentive to come!

That's true, and I say that as a tenative Perry supporter. Every candidate has at least one major issue that I disagree about. I think Perry is half wrong on immigration. I think he is sincere and right about sealing the border, but soft on illegals who are here already. To be honest, a lot of that probably is due to the dependence of Texas agriculture on illegals. I don't think that's any worse than the flaws of the other candidates, and I learned a long time ago that every politician supports something I don't like. When I look at the totality of where they stand on issues though, I think Perry is the best of the current crop. But I don't have to make an actual decsion until March, and there will likely be only 2 or 3 left by then to choose from.

60 posted on 11/16/2011 12:37:49 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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