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ATF Classifies Pot Scrubbers as Silencers, Makes Possession Illegal
Truth About Guns ^
| 15 NOV 11
| Nick Leghorn
Posted on 11/16/2011 1:13:04 PM PST by DCBryan1
David Codrea published an article today about an interesting letter one law abiding silencer owner received from the ATF. The silencer owner in question owns an AWC .22lr silencer that uses a material made of tangled copper ropes to slow down the expanding gasses, a material not unlike the common Brillo pad or Chore Boy Pot Scrubber. He wanted to know whether it would be legal to replace the worn out material in his legally owned silencer with some pot scrubber material, an act which seems pretty innocuous to the impartial observer. The ATF, on the other hand
From the ATFs reply:
[S]ound/gas absorbing materials manufactured from Chore Boy copper cleaning pads, along with fiberglass insulation, constitute a silencer.
Therefore, it is illegal for an individual to replace deteriorated material within an already- registered suppressor without an approved ATF Form 1, Application to Make and Register a Firearm, along with a $200.00 making tax and a no-marking variance
since there is no viable area in which to apply a serial number to the sound-absorbing material.
So if someone wanted to replace the padding in their silencer theyd need to submit two new sets of fingerprint cards, two new photographs, a signature from their local chief law enforcement officer, $200 and a set of newly filled out Form 1 applications and then wait 4 months for a reply. All for an item they already own legally, and at the end of the day they will still have only one NFA item.
But thats not all. The original letter included a question about the owner of a legally owned silencer having a reserve of such pads. In case, you know, they needed to clean something. According to the ATF that would be considered a stockpile and considered an illegal act.
David has the full letter on his site which can be seen here.
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To: DCBryan1
"Right. Stop that now. It's silly. Very silly indeed."
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posted on
11/16/2011 2:10:15 PM PST
by
Ken H
(They are running out of other people's money.
)
To: DCBryan1
In the right hands, a scrubber is a very dangerous weapon.
To: DCBryan1
tangled copper ropes to slow down the expanding gasses,I suspect a length of copper shielding jacket stripped out of a piece of coax cable would work just as well.
To: BuckeyeTexan
44
posted on
11/16/2011 2:24:46 PM PST
by
muddler
(Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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45
posted on
11/16/2011 2:28:49 PM PST
by
RedMDer
(Forward With Confidence!)
To: DCBryan1
Quick ban copper tubing, you can make a still out of it!!!!!
Quick Ban everything, you can probably make something else out of it that is probably illegal!!!!!!
46
posted on
11/16/2011 2:41:59 PM PST
by
GraceG
To: Tenacious 1
I think that pillows are okay as long as you don't remove the tag.
-PJ
47
posted on
11/16/2011 2:44:03 PM PST
by
Political Junkie Too
(If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
To: DCBryan1
Gun silencers should be legal. Stop the irrational fear of tools, even deadly tools.
What I want is silencers for leaf blowers. Those drive me up the wall.
48
posted on
11/16/2011 2:45:07 PM PST
by
bvw
To: gaijin
I dug more into the story, and found this ATF letter which....are you ready? Which states that a SHOESTRING can be a MACHINE-GUN.More proof that BATFAGS are light in the loafers.
49
posted on
11/16/2011 3:23:58 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: goldstategop
"When Brillo pads are outlawed, only outlaws will have Brillo pads."Err..., uhh...,hey, that's racist!?....uhh, oh never mind. /sarc>
50
posted on
11/16/2011 6:02:19 PM PST
by
semaj
To: All
51
posted on
11/16/2011 6:03:34 PM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: DCBryan1
How in God's name do you make a silencer out of crack pipe screen material??
Wait-say what?
...you mean you use that copper stuff for scrubbing pots too?? Oh,COOL!...:P
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posted on
11/16/2011 6:23:50 PM PST
by
gimme1ibertee
("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
To: DCBryan1
Scrub the soviet-style BATF!
53
posted on
11/16/2011 7:00:05 PM PST
by
SuperLuminal
(Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
To: NFHale
Don’t forget Waco and Ruby Ridge.
54
posted on
11/16/2011 7:05:47 PM PST
by
Randy Larsen
(Hang in there Herman, conservatives love you!)
To: Randy Larsen
I will NEVER forget Waco or Ruby Ridge. Nor the people who were murdered there.
Nor will I ever forget WHO murdered those American Citizens.
And I made it a mission to educate anyone who will listen as to exactly what happened in those places.
We should all do so...
55
posted on
11/16/2011 7:43:45 PM PST
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
56
posted on
11/17/2011 6:37:10 PM PST
by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: stuartcr
57
posted on
11/17/2011 8:46:50 PM PST
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
To: Tenacious 1
What should the punishment be if they remove the tags?
58
posted on
11/17/2011 8:48:54 PM PST
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
To: moovova
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posted on
11/17/2011 8:49:47 PM PST
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
To: moovova
Sorry, that should read:
Much thwee rethist....
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posted on
11/17/2011 8:50:35 PM PST
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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