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To: GregNH
Sorry about the formatting, try again.

I attended the hearing of "birther" Dr. Orly Taitz'c challenge of Barack Obama akz Barry Soetoro, aka Soebarkah's name to appear on the 2012 Presidential ballot here in NH. I would like to point out, as I explained to staff writer Maddie Hana, that the birth certificate is not and never has been the issue. We who understand the issue have been labeled "birthers" and called nut jobs and other derogatory descriptions. It matters not where Obama was born. His citizenship at the time of his birth was British. He remains today a British subject.

The Constitution states in Article II, section 1, clause 5; "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." Seeing as how Obama was not a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution he needs to be a "natural born Citizen" and he is not.

That term was common knowledge to the founding fathers and is meant to mean "children born of parents who are Citizens on the land are natives, or natural born Citizens." This was articulated many times by the founding fathers and others. References in Supreme Court decisions for example Minor v Happersett 1870, http://supreme.justia.com/us/88/162/case.html , The Chief justice wrote the following; "The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

We also have a book held at the Boston public library that belonged to John Adams. Page 77 of his book describes natural born Citizens, or “Subjects” That can be seen here http://www.archive.org/stream/newabridgementof01baco#page/n8/mode/1up

Some claim that the 14th amendment defines “natural born Citizen.” The 14th amendment was written by John Bingham, "father of the 14th Amendment", the abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincoln's assassins, reaffirmed the definition known to the framers, not once, but twice during Congressional discussions of Citizenship pertaining to the upcoming 14th Amendment and a 3rd time nearly 4 years after the 14th was adopted. One example quote; "All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians." (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862)).

I could on and on. The definition is clear and Mr. Obama does not meet that definition. He released his birth certificate and it clearly shows that his father at the time of his birth was listed as "African" and not a US Citizen. The Elections Committee choose to hide behind a local statute that simply states that his papers and $1,000.00 check were in order, ignoring the fact that no law can supersede the Constitution, a Constitution that these committee members swore an oath to uphold and defend against all enemies both foreign and domestic. In other words, as Dr Orly pointed out at the hearing, anyone can get on the ballot if they submit a declaration form and a check. Shame on these people. and a check. Shame on these people.

166 posted on 11/19/2011 5:57:55 AM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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Check out # 166 for FReeper GregNH's commentary, as he attended 0rly's hearing, also. Then read comments through # 181.

Thanks, GregNH, good job.

183 posted on 11/19/2011 10:02:52 PM PST by LucyT
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To: GregNH

You know about justia.com altering the cases that obtained minor v happersatt?


194 posted on 11/20/2011 4:31:19 AM PST by tutstar
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To: GregNH
What is the political composition of the NH Elections Committee whose hearing you attended and filmed? Are they all gubernatorial appointees?

What prompted them to hold the hearing? Are they required by law to do it whenever a state legislator objects to the SOS's placement of a candidate on the primary ballot?

200 posted on 11/20/2011 10:37:50 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: GregNH

Someone should suggest the SOS call Brian Schatz and have the SOS ask Mr. Schatz directly - why did you not declare your own supposedly-native son a nbC? Is there something the other 49 states should know that you obviously know?

Hawaii refused to give their own native son that status. Pelosi had to do it for them.


203 posted on 11/20/2011 12:56:31 PM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: LucyT
My letter to the editor, comment 181, was returned for a violation of word count. 250 MAX!

So here is the revised version.

That term natural born Citizen was common knowledge to the founding fathers and it’s meaning is "children born of parents who are Citizens on the land are natives, or natural born Citizens." This was articulated many times by the founding fathers. Supreme Court decisions for example Minor v Happersett 1870, http://supreme.justia.com/us/88/162/case.html , The Chief justice wrote the following; "The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."

A book belonging to John Adams. Page 77 describes natural born Citizens. http://www.archive.org/stream/newabridgementof01baco#page/n8/mode/1up

Some claim that the 14th amendment defines “natural born Citizen.” The 14th amendment was written by John Bingham, reaffirmed the definition known to the framers, not once, but twice during Congressional discussions of Citizenship pertaining to the upcoming 14th Amendment and a 3rd time nearly 4 years after the 14th was adopted. One example quote; "All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens.”

Mr. Obama is not a natural born Citizen.

237 posted on 11/21/2011 8:18:52 AM PST by GregNH (One Pissed Off Natural Born Citizen OPONBC)
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