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Middle-Class Areas Shrink as Income Gap Grows, New Report Finds
New York Times ^ | 11/15/2011 | Sabrina Tavernise

Posted on 11/17/2011 8:54:15 AM PST by dragnet2

WASHINGTON — The portion of American families living in middle-income neighborhoods has declined significantly since 1970

The findings show a changed map of prosperity in the United States over the past four decades, with larger patches of affluence and poverty and a shrinking middle.

In 2007, the last year captured by the data, 44 percent of families lived in neighborhoods the study defined as middle-income, down from 65 percent of families in 1970. At the same time, a third of American families lived in areas of either affluence or poverty, up from just 15 percent of families in 1970.

The study comes at a time of growing concern about inequality and an ever-louder partisan debate over whether it matters.

Much of the shift is the result of changing income structure in the United States. Part of the country’s middle class has slipped to the lower rungs of the income ladder as manufacturing and other middle-class jobs have dwindled, while the wealthy receive a bigger portion of the income pie. Put simply, there are fewer people in the middle.

But the shift is more than just changes in income. The study also found that there is more residential sorting by income, with the rich flocking together in new exurbs and gentrifying pockets where lower- and middle-income families cannot afford to live.

Detroit; Oklahoma City; Toledo, Ohio; and Greensboro, N.C., experienced the biggest rises in income segregation in the decade, while 13 areas, including Atlanta, had declines. Philadelphia and its suburbs registered the sharpest rise since 1970.

“It was real nice,” he said, shuffling along Chelten Avenue on Monday. Theaters thrived on the avenue, he said, as did a fancy department store. Now a Walgreens stands in its place. “Everything started going down in the dumps,” he said.

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There is no doubt the American middle class is being beaten like a drum...To add insult to injury, the insiders and well connected had no problem bailing out the wealthy and big biz to the tune of trillions, all while seizing millions of home from the struggling middle class.
1 posted on 11/17/2011 8:54:17 AM PST by dragnet2
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The Germantown area of Philadelphia was formerly considered solidly middle class but is now mostly low income. "Everything started going down in the dumps," a longtime resident said.

2 posted on 11/17/2011 8:54:48 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
"lived in neighborhoods the study defined as middle-income, "
now all we need is what the study defines as middle income neighborhoods.... definately a slanted at best story...
3 posted on 11/17/2011 8:58:22 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: dragnet2

The Obama Marxist regime’s plan has worked. Obama has not failed! Folks, Obama is evil and he has to be defeated. So stop your damned bickering and get to work! Obama and his media and union minions must be sent packing!


4 posted on 11/17/2011 8:59:12 AM PST by Jukeman
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To: joe fonebone
definately a slanted at best story

You deny millions of the middle class lost their jobs, careers, investments, businesses etc., all while their homes were seized by the banks, while the insiders and wealthy supported bailing about big biz and Wall Street to the tune of multiple trillions?

You deny this?

5 posted on 11/17/2011 9:03:39 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

This is impossible. 48 percent of Americans pay no taxes! I guess those of us who do pay the taxes are considered Middle Class now.


6 posted on 11/17/2011 9:05:32 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: dragnet2

Somehow the shrinking middle class isn’t a problem if only the wealthier were shrinking too, then it’d fine and dandy.

lol.

Of course if its rich leftists who are losing wealth, the NY Times would be calling for bailing them out.


7 posted on 11/17/2011 9:06:16 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: dragnet2

This ‘income gap’ meme is bollocks.

Income equality is available today...in Cuba.

We should seek activity (rising tide etc.) not some artificially-induced parity.

I know it’s the NYT but enough is enough.


8 posted on 11/17/2011 9:07:46 AM PST by relictele (Unions: organized crime with better PR)
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To: dragnet2

and what evil bailed them out? Government. But this newspaper LOVES government.


9 posted on 11/17/2011 9:07:58 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: relictele
Income equality is available today...in Cuba.

No it isn't....Fidel and Raul are two of the richest men in the world.

10 posted on 11/17/2011 9:08:40 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: napscoordinator
This is impossible. 48 percent of Americans pay no taxes!

If you own a home, you pay big taxes...

11 posted on 11/17/2011 9:09:10 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

No doubt that the middle class is under pressure, but...

I suspect that if your read through the data, you will see that this study is focused on what were formerly big city middle class neighborhoods, going back to 1970.

This is less about income inequality than it is about the decline of industrial cities and a migration of their working populations away and out to the ‘burbs. It is a function of the changes in the economy away from heavy manufacturing toward a service and information-based economy.


12 posted on 11/17/2011 9:14:19 AM PST by SargeK
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To: GeronL
You deny millions of the middle class lost their jobs, careers, investments, businesses etc., all while their homes were seized by the banks, while the insiders and wealthy supported bailing about big biz and Wall Street to the tune of multiple trillions?

You deny this?

and what evil bailed them out? Government.

Agree, but the insiders running the fat corps, banks and Wall Street are all riding in the government limo.

13 posted on 11/17/2011 9:16:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SargeK
No doubt that the middle class is under pressure

No, it's not under pressure, it's being decimated.

14 posted on 11/17/2011 9:17:47 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: relictele

Feel free to answer #5, as the other poster it was directed at, chose not to.


15 posted on 11/17/2011 9:21:15 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2; All
No, it's not under pressure, it's being decimated.

WELL WORTH REPEATING

16 posted on 11/17/2011 9:41:10 AM PST by Moleman
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To: dragnet2
"You deny this?"
Until I know the data upon which this story is based.....yes...I am not denying the situation here, I am denying the story based upon the fact the data used is not included with it... much like saying the rich should pay more taxes... first, define rich....
17 posted on 11/17/2011 9:50:24 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: dragnet2

Unlike some who spend their entire days here, I am at work, and cannot immediately answer you... I have done so...take your alinsky tactics elsewhere pal...


18 posted on 11/17/2011 9:52:40 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: dfwgator

I regret that the irony of my post was not clear...the socialist utopia that OWS and others desire will always result in the kind of setup that exists in Cuba as well as old Iron Curtain nations.

OWS are, of course, terminally irony-free so they will never see the futility and hypocrisy of their objectives.


19 posted on 11/17/2011 9:57:08 AM PST by relictele (Unions: organized crime with better PR)
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To: dragnet2

Hardly surprising since more Americans have decided to sell their souls to go on socialist government assistance rather than improve their skill set to increase their income. I’m rather tired of paying for it.


20 posted on 11/17/2011 9:58:25 AM PST by theymakemesick
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To: dragnet2
The only thing the Globalist Banksters hate more than free enterprise is the White Christian Middle-class. Their bought-n-paid-for meatpuppets in government and in their Corporations have been working tirelessly for decades to eradicate us and our civilization.


Pictured: Middle-class hating Globalist meatpuppets

21 posted on 11/17/2011 10:03:04 AM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: dragnet2

this is the 5th year of democrat control

that takes its toll


22 posted on 11/17/2011 10:45:36 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: joe fonebone
...yes...I am not denying the situation here, I am denying the story based upon yap yap yap

You don't seem to know what your denying.

Lets try this one more time. Direct question:

You deny tens of millions of the middle class lost their jobs, careers, investments, businesses etc., all while their homes were seized by the banks, while the insiders and wealthy supported bailing about big biz and Wall Street to the tune of multiple trillions?

You deny this?

23 posted on 11/17/2011 11:06:01 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: theymakemesick
Americans have decided to sell their souls to go on socialist government assistance rather than improve their skill set

What kind of cockeye'd response is this?

Skill set to what? There are millions of out of work engineers, computer programers, welders, construction workers etc.

Tens of millions are out of work. Should they all become cubical workers selling loans no one can afford?

You place blame directly on the tax paying working class, private sector America and not the corrupt insiders, banks, Wall Street and this bloated out of control government?

Tell me, do you deny tens of millions of the middle class lost their jobs, careers, investments, businesses etc., all while their homes were seized by the banks, while the insiders and wealthy supported bailing about big biz and Wall Street to the tune of multiple trillions?

If not, is this the kind of free market you support?

24 posted on 11/17/2011 11:14:26 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Moleman

You bet.

Watch some of these responses...Some of which are in total, absolute denial.


25 posted on 11/17/2011 11:16:02 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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No, I do not.... this is not what my main response was about, but it seems you are a hostile person, so let me answer your question....

Tens of millions have lost their jobs, this started in 2006, under the watchful eye of GW Bush....

Many millions have lost their investments.. was it due to the economy, or due to get rich quick, high risk investments that blew up on them... I know of people that lost everything because they choose the quick route instead of slow and steady... those I know that chose slow and steady took a short term hit, recovered, and are now ahead of the game once again...I have no sympathy for those who chose to gamble with their savings...

many millions lost their homes, but the vast majority overbought, took out second and third mortgages to pay for boats, cars, fancy vacations, big screen tv’s etc... Most, if not all the people i know that lost their homes fall into this category.. I hav no sympathy for them

For every person that lost their business, there is one that took the necessary steps to stay in business... and there are also those that started their own... business is a gamble, and most do not make it ( check the sba website for start up / failure rate info )i have some sympathy for those that tried

I even was unemployed for a year, but got called back to work and am back on track. We did not suffer, because while all our friends and aquaintences were off on elaborate vacations, buying big homes, fancy cars and the such, we were putting our money away, and not falling for the “get rich quick” schemes that have swallowed a large portion of the country’s savings.

In short, it is my belief that the old “ant and grasshopper” story came into play, and the VAST majority of people in trouble broght it on themselves. There are those that genuinely got caught, but for most it was preventible...personal responsibility, learn it, live it...


26 posted on 11/17/2011 11:34:10 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone
Still blaming the middle class tax payers I see.

Tell me, do you deny tens of millions of the middle class lost their jobs, careers, investments, businesses etc., all while their homes were seized by the banks, while the insiders and wealthy supported bailing about big biz and Wall Street to the tune of multiple trillions?

Is this the kind of free market you support?

27 posted on 11/17/2011 11:37:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

no reasoning with you.....you are a jackass....get bent


28 posted on 11/17/2011 11:44:28 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: dragnet2

Liberal politicians wanted votes and control of private business. Do-nothings wanted what they couldn’t afford. Put both of these groups together and it equals financial disaster.


29 posted on 11/17/2011 11:50:50 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: joe fonebone
In short, it is my belief that the old “ant and grasshopper” story came into play, and the VAST majority of people in trouble broght it on themselves.

*******************************

Imho, it was this group and government interference in private businesses that caused the bulk of the problem.

30 posted on 11/17/2011 11:53:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

The people that I have observed and known that lost everything fall into 3 categories:

They suffered a divorce or other major occurance that drove them into bankrupcy (33% fall into this category)

They spent most of their money on frivilous luxuries, buying large homes, etc. and failed to put money away, and then lost their jobs, resulting in losing everything, a personal ponzi scheme that finally caught up with them (33% fall into this category)

those that are genuine victims of the economy (33% fall into this category)

So, based upon my observations, 33% deserve my sympathy. And those 33% have my sympathy. The other 66% brought it on themselves. They get no sympathy from me.


31 posted on 11/17/2011 12:05:12 PM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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This new report and it’s findings, comes from The Russell Sage Foundation. Foundation worked with the Ford Foundation to conduct a Multi-City Study of Urban Inequality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Sage_Foundation#cite_note-A_Brief_History-4


32 posted on 11/17/2011 12:49:10 PM PST by anglian
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To: dragnet2

The fact that “poor” people are now living in neighborhoods that 40 years ago were “middle class” is a sign of rising living standards, not necessarily rising inequality.


33 posted on 11/17/2011 2:25:14 PM PST by riverdawg
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“The fact that “poor” people are now living in neighborhoods that 40 years ago were “middle class” is a sign of rising living standards, not necessarily rising inequality.”

I disagree. There have been numerous posts regarding this very issue. Its because property values have fallen so low and so many have walked away from their mortgages that banks are renting them out at low prices. Enter the section 8 / subsidized housing hordes who in turn sully the neighborhoods and lower housing prices that much more.


34 posted on 11/17/2011 3:55:40 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: joe fonebone
Still blaming the middle class tax payers I see. Tell me, do you deny tens of millions of the middle class lost their jobs, careers, investments, businesses etc., all while their homes were seized by the banks, while the insiders and wealthy supported bailing about big biz and Wall Street to the tune of multiple trillions?

Is this the kind of free market you support?

no reasoning with you.....you are a jackass....get bent

I suspected you'd respond in this type of manner.

Cheers!

35 posted on 11/18/2011 8:35:46 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: riverdawg
The fact that “poor” people are now living in neighborhoods that 40 years ago were “middle class” is a sign of rising living standards

America's standard of living is really improving!

You betcha!

((wow))

36 posted on 11/18/2011 8:38:33 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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