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Will 'New Newt' prevail? (Will he make a comeback like Nixon in 1968?)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/17/2011 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 11/17/2011 6:43:59 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/17/2011 6:44:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt is the final anti-Romney firewall. Keep it in mind.


2 posted on 11/17/2011 6:45:12 PM PST by RC one (Newt is the last anti-Romney firewall.)
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3 posted on 11/17/2011 6:45:17 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind
♫♪ “Meet the New Newt . . . Same as the Old Newt . . .” ♪♫
4 posted on 11/17/2011 6:46:17 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, Newt will soar. I really think he is going to go higher in the polls as people hear him speak and in the debates.


5 posted on 11/17/2011 6:48:59 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: SeekAndFind

There was an interesting call from a woman listener on Rush today. She said she hasn’t decided who to vote for yet, and compared it to dating a bunch of guys to try to find the right one. Newt is the old boyfriend who she had written off after the Pelosi/global warming thing and other stuff. Then he shows up at your front door with flowers and a new sports car and talks you into going for a ride. You find yourself remembering what you liked the first time, how he made you laugh and the good times you had (like the Contract With America, balanced budget, welfare reform), and start to think maybe he wasn’t so bad after all. She was kind of funny, but also made a good case.


6 posted on 11/17/2011 6:54:01 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Will ‘New Newt’ prevail? (Will he make a comeback like Nixon in 1968?)”

Sure and that turned out just great, didn’t it?

What drives these men? Men like Newt and Romney who would do or say ANYTHING to become president? Is it a love of country or love of themselves? Quest for power? How do you trust them? I can’t.


7 posted on 11/17/2011 6:54:40 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SeekAndFind

I find it interesting how often the Newt haters here are posting articles from liberal rags. Hmmmm


8 posted on 11/17/2011 6:58:23 PM PST by Confab
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To: MestaMachine

But u can trust Obama huh? Newt really bothers you lefties doesn’t he?

Give’em hell Newt.


9 posted on 11/17/2011 6:59:30 PM PST by swampfox101
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To: MestaMachine

In Newt’s case, I think he believes he has the best ideas to solve the country’s problems. I really think he decided to run to get his ideas out there and shape the debate, and if he somehow wins so much the better. And lord knows, he loves to talk.


10 posted on 11/17/2011 7:00:15 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Confab

It is interesting Confab. The Newt haters appear to hate every candidate but Cain. They are in a frenzy with Newt soaring in the polls, with Rush defending him on his show and with Palin saying he won the debate...sigh.


11 posted on 11/17/2011 7:02:14 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Confab

I find it interesting how often the Newt haters here are posting articles from liberal rags. Hmmmm
More media trying to pick the candidate from the "other" side.

As far as Nixon goes, he was liberal enough, with his expansions of government (EPA, Amtrak, OSHA, increasing funding for "Great Society", etc.).
12 posted on 11/17/2011 7:02:56 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Newt can give a ‘Checkers’ type speech to the American public on the ‘box’.....’coast to coast’ of course, (older FReepers will get those meanings!!), I still see CainTrain and Newt as the ticket. Just say no to mitt!!!


13 posted on 11/17/2011 7:05:23 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: swampfox101

What is your malfunction? romney is a conservative now???
Have they made global warming and cap and trade conservative positions now...?

Jerk.


14 posted on 11/17/2011 7:07:15 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Hugin

“Contract With America, balanced budget, welfare reform”

How soon (some of us) forget .... of course, Newt didn’t have THAT much to do with it all.....hmmmphhh.


15 posted on 11/17/2011 7:09:09 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: katiedidit1

Distrust is much different from hate...but you know that.


16 posted on 11/17/2011 7:11:15 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s true that Nixon changed his image enough to get elected. But the rest is history.

:O


17 posted on 11/17/2011 7:11:40 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: SeekAndFind
To my surprise, Newt is the odds-on favorite to win the nomination. Not long ago, his campaign was cracking apart. A couple years ago, he was a conservative apostate. A string of solid debate performances has turned everything around.

We're in serious times, and voters look to serious people in such times. Cain was the favorite a couple weeks ago, but I don't think it was the scandals that knocked him down; it was the knot in his supporters' stomachs whenever he was asked a serious question--the thought "Oh, please God, don't let him screw up!" The closer we get to voting, the more comfortable voters feel with Newt. He's a semi-conservative who is sometimes off the wagon, but no one has any fear that he's going to bomb in a debate with Obama.

I'm not wild about Newt given his too-frequent dalliances with leftist ideas, but given the other viable options of Cain and Romney, Newt looks good by comparison.

18 posted on 11/17/2011 7:12:18 PM PST by ElectronVolt
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To: katiedidit1

It’s sort of a GOP Insider vs Tea Party thing w/many of us Cain supporters ,..at least that’s my feeling. Newt is kind of the penultimate “insider” to me; but, I don’t hate him ...I just don’t trust him based upon past behavior. That said, I would still vote for him if he is the candidate


19 posted on 11/17/2011 7:12:42 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes...and remember, he’s not a dictator; presidents have the final say. He’ll have to intelligently deal with congress.
Best man for the job.


20 posted on 11/17/2011 7:14:14 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: RC one
I see it as Newt is the one guy the Dems have decided they really want as the GOP nominee.

They want to rough him up enough to remind conservatives how much he has disgusted them at various times over the years, but not so much that his path to the nomination is destroyed.

Here's my theory:

# 31.

21 posted on 11/17/2011 7:16:47 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: RC one
Newt and willard in a sack together when they fell out they would be hugging each other and have interchangeable parts. Both of them love the individual mandate and big government. No, not voting for either.
22 posted on 11/17/2011 7:18:55 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Hugin

Did she talk about what happens next?

She goes out with the guy and then marries him. Uh-huh. The day after the wedding she sees new hubby reaching across the aisle to play footsie with her old nemesis. She wakes up screaming: WHAT WAS I THINKING?? NOW I REMEMBER WHY I DROP-KICKED THIS LOSER!!


23 posted on 11/17/2011 7:20:00 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

24 posted on 11/17/2011 7:21:17 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Confab

Gawd, I feel like I’m in the teen section on Facebook when I hear people who disagree with a candidate’s views, positions or record automatically called “haters.”

Sad, but still kinda funny.


25 posted on 11/17/2011 7:22:06 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: bobby.223

How can Newt give a “Checkers” speech when Callista wears $45,000 necklaces from Tiffany’s? LOL

(And, no, I am not making that price up. The New York Times said so.)


26 posted on 11/17/2011 7:23:50 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: jessduntno

I don’t forget that.

But I don’t have a selective memory, either.

And I’d vote for Gingrich. But he would be one pain-in-the-butt heartburn-inducing rollercoaster-ride “bipartisan” POTUS, just like he’s always been.


27 posted on 11/17/2011 7:26:14 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: MestaMachine
Distrust is much different from hate...but you know that.

But if you admit that, then you don't get to call people "haters" (or is it H8Rs), you know, like the cool kids and the alternate lifestyle peeps do!

28 posted on 11/17/2011 7:28:05 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: RC one
Newt stands on his own merits. The comparison to Nixon is facile but inaccurate. Nixon was a robust Cold Warrior but no conventional conservative as the term has come to be known.

Gingrich was never as "angry" as the demogogues played him out to be. You have to bear in mind, "angry" is an epithet used by the Lefwingers to disparage normal people who are indignant at what they see being done to the country.

29 posted on 11/17/2011 7:28:33 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

"The New Dick...it's short, it's sweet and everyone wants to see it."

30 posted on 11/17/2011 7:30:48 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Here is my SOP response to the inner thing

I think when people see that Newt keeps him promises as in say the Contract With America. When they see that he reduced government spending, balanced the Federal Budget and reformed welfare they just might conclude that Newt is the kind of insider they would like to see back in the inside.

31 posted on 11/17/2011 7:31:05 PM PST by jpsb
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To: MestaMachine
Speaking of jerks...
32 posted on 11/17/2011 7:32:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

thinly disguised to link a person with a thoroughly disgraced one -

too many of you are falling for it. The media still rules the day...


33 posted on 11/17/2011 7:33:13 PM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not if the people with brains and deep regard for their country vote for someone else. Newt is a liberal. A tiger does not change it’s stripes. If they try it washes off in the next rainfall!


34 posted on 11/17/2011 7:33:52 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: fightinJAG

And I’d vote for Gingrich. But he would be one pain-in-the-butt heartburn-inducing rollercoaster-ride “bipartisan” POTUS, just like he’s always been.”

Yep. But he wouldn’t be a jugeared Marxist Kenyan.


35 posted on 11/17/2011 7:34:35 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: RC one

LOL! It’s not over until it’sover!


36 posted on 11/17/2011 7:34:35 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: fightinJAG
"The evil men do lives after them...the good is oft interred with their bones." But for Watergate, Nixon would have had one of the most notable 8 year stays in office of the 20th century-- not orthodox conservative by any means, but centrist in the true sense of the word. It is a tragedy that he fell victim to his own flaws, and in the face of opportunistic hostile forces not totally of his own making. A tragedy not just for him but for the country as well.
37 posted on 11/17/2011 7:37:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

I’m thinking maybe you meant Newt is the quintessential, archetypal or consummate insider [with which I would agree]. ‘Penultimate’ means ‘second to last in a series’, such as, ‘Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince’ is the penultimate book in the series.


38 posted on 11/17/2011 7:38:29 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: fightinJAG
I feel like I'm in the teen section when I read the assinine, fatuous bullshit that passes among putative adults for informed opinion these days.
39 posted on 11/17/2011 7:44:05 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

Yesterday I read a comparison of Newt to Churchill.

Now a comparison to Nixon.

I think the Churchill comparison is more apt.


40 posted on 11/17/2011 7:44:07 PM PST by samtheman
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To: hinckley buzzard

Meaning what, hinckley? Someone comes out from under a rock shoots from a keyboard and calls me a ‘lefty’ for saying I don’t trust romney or newt makes that person a class a jerk. Period.
Do YOU trust romney and newt?
Actually, I don’t ‘trust’ any of them, but those two even less.


41 posted on 11/17/2011 7:44:21 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: samtheman
I think the Churchill comparison is more apt.

Churchill didn't quit when he became a voice in the wilderness, Newt did.

42 posted on 11/17/2011 7:47:15 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: fightinJAG
How can Newt give a “Checkers” speech when Callista wears $45,000 necklaces from Tiffany’s? LOL

Your class envy is pathetic. Just think--if you were as smart as Newt and had accomplished 1% of what he has accomplished, you could afford to buy your wife a pricey trinket too.

Sorry you just can't cut the mustard like Newt can.

43 posted on 11/17/2011 7:47:55 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: dfwgator

No comparison is perfect, just as no person is, or was, including (and especially, Churchill).

If you think Churchill was flawless you don’t know history.

If you think Newt’s flaws are deal-breakers, you’re not paying attention.


44 posted on 11/17/2011 7:50:41 PM PST by samtheman
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To: MestaMachine
Meaning, if the shoe fits, put 'em both on.
45 posted on 11/17/2011 7:50:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: dfwgator
Churchill didn't have to quit. He got thrown out by the brilliant socialist brits. You eleven year-old twits have to grow up and realize that sometimes, knowing when it is time to go, is not a moral failing but a virtue. We had the same nauseating stupidity (still do occasionally) with respect to Sarah Palin. Idiot prepubertal children were so upset when she resigned the governor's chair they just couldn't hold their water. Some still can't. Pathetic.
46 posted on 11/17/2011 7:56:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: fightinJAG
I like Newt and right now I think he may be the last best chance to stop Romney. However, I'm not a Cult follower and will criticize any candidate when I see fault. One thing in that article that I don't much care for is this:

New Newt is conciliatory, even bipartisan. In several debates, he's refused to criticize his rivals and has scolded moderators for — gasp! — trying to accentuate their differences. As president, he told voters in Iowa, one his first acts would be to reach out to Democrats.

"It's become much too partisan in both parties," said the man who has been accused of destroying the bipartisan tradition in the House of Representatives.


I'm not down with this notion on reaching out to Democrats. I'm more in the Rush camp on this. I think that the Democrats have shown that they can't in good faith be worked or negotiated with. It's fool-hardy to try to reach out to them. Instead, the only rational view left is that they must simply be defeated. This smacks of trying to court moderates. The cost benefit analysis doesn't pan out in my view. I believe that this risk alienating far more conservatives than what moderates it might woo. My hope is that Newt doesn't start trumpeting this. I can only see that this tack will be damaging if he does.

About cult followings... I see a lot of stuff here and elsewhere that borders on it. This is a choice about politicians not saints. Being a fanatic sports fan can be admirable, especially when you teams sucks (re. Colts). There's something to be said about home town pride and all that. But, some of these folks that continue to cling to hopeless candidates is something else. They're politicians... That's all.
47 posted on 11/17/2011 7:56:11 PM PST by TBBT
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To: hinckley buzzard

I was referring to 1934, when Churchill was ostracized by his own party for speaking out against Nazi Germany. He didn’t quit Parliament, and go into the private sector, where he could have made a lot of money, even though he had lost a lot of money in the Stock Market Crash. He kept speaking out until history proved him right.


48 posted on 11/17/2011 7:59:43 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I would say, “Same to you,” but you are too busy chewing on your feet to try them on. Get a life...or is THIS your life? Playing keyboard cowboy with a bad aim and a soft hard drive.


49 posted on 11/17/2011 8:00:07 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SeekAndFind

He probably will prevail. And things will be the same in Washington. Sad that Bachmann lost....


50 posted on 11/17/2011 8:00:31 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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